Survey of U.S. Home Growers Published. Claims include, "Women make up 61% of cannabis home growers."

If AFN is seriously interested in doing surveys, are there any non- or for-profit organizations with relevant grant programs that might cover the expenses, even allow hiring of experts, contractors, etc. to do the work? I doubt they are yet sophisticated enough, if they even exist, but are there any grow- or cannabis-related trade associations, foundations, activist groups, political action committees (PACs), rich growers/dealers, etc. that could be survey funding sources or collaborators? Academic researchers that AFN might collaborate with? Might large diversified grow-oriented marketers be funding sources, such as Advanced Nutrients, General Hydroponics, Canna, AC Infinity, Fox Farm, etc.? [Grant funding is where AFN being a 501(c)(3) could pay off].

Might any of have these diverse sources also been considered potential sources for broader funding of AFN?
 
If AFN is seriously interested in doing surveys, are there any non- or for-profit organizations with relevant grant programs that might cover the expenses, even allow hiring of experts, contractors, etc. to do the work? I doubt they are yet sophisticated enough, if they even exist, but are there any grow- or cannabis-related trade associations, foundations, activist groups, political action committees (PACs), rich growers/dealers, etc. that could be survey funding sources or collaborators? Academic researchers that AFN might collaborate with? Might large diversified grow-oriented marketers be funding sources, such as Advanced Nutrients, General Hydroponics, Canna, AC Infinity, Fox Farm, etc.? [Grant funding is where AFN being a 501(c)(3) could pay off].

Might any of have these diverse sources also been considered potential sources for broader funding of AFN?

Why overcomplicate it?

What's stopping us from simply posing the questions ourselves? We actually have a form software add-on on the forum that would allow us to custom detail any type of survey we want to create. There are also loads of free software available like Google Forms, or free/relatively low cost services like MailChimp to do e-mail surveys for example.

I already told you the AFN model doesn't really fit 501(c)(3) model. :shrug:
 
Polls that ask a specific population (ie AFN members) are great. They don't pretend to be a sample of the entire population. And it is known to be informal.

(Our readers think/feel "×" ) Very useful indeed.

But when a polls says "×" of the population....this needs tight controls to be useful.
 
Polls that ask a specific population (ie AFN members) are great. They don't pretend to be a sample of the entire population. And it is known to be informal.

(Our readers think/feel "×" ) Very useful indeed.

But when a polls says "×" of the population....this needs tight controls to be useful.
Definition of the target population that you need information from is critical. If the population, for example is AFN members, that makes definition easy. If the population is residents of the USA for another example, that makes for a bigger project to put it mildly. But whatever your target population is, it has to be defined clearly up front.

Once you know who you are interested in, you need to figure out how to sample them (it is rarely feasible to contact them all). This can be complicated for a variety of reasons, and is more often than not the reasons that polls and surveys fail. Just for example, (not getting into politics here, just using something recent that peeps here might have noticed) multiple polls underestimated Trump's likely election success because apparently those most likely to vote for him were least likely to respond to pollsters. Even if one were to sample AFN members, how to sample them becomes complicated. Many members are not currently active, are they excluded, and what would that do to interpretation of the results? There are an almost unlimited number of ways that sampling populations of people can fail due to unanticipated bias, and good surveys are careful to explain what has been done to avoid the obvious pitfalls.

Once you figure out who exactly your population is, and how to sample it, you need to figure out what to ask. Questions must legitimately generate information relevant to the issue being explored. But beyond that the language used is critical and must be sufficiently neutral to avoid introducing bias. I imagine we have all (those of us who have ever listened to the questions) experienced polling obviously designed to obtain the desired answers. I rarely partcipate in polls, often for this reason (although I have been known to strategically lie rather than leaving an obviously biased poll - feels good, but probably accomplishes little :biggrin:)

Bottom line, survey design is everything, absent bulletproof design from beginning to end, the output is not useful and could be harmful. Surveys on a country wide scale are huge, difficult, and expensive projects, and nonetheless regularly fail in spite of expert effort due to their complexity.

So, back to the ILGM report/survey, IMO it fails miserably on several counts:

1. The population is undefined. Exactly which home growers are part of the population? ILGM members only? Any US resident? Residents of legal US states only? Home growers who never ever sell anything? "Home growers" with what more accurately be described as a smallish grow up for illegal sale? Etc. Etc.
2. The sampling methods are undescribed. This is huge, especially if the population is intended to be country wide and not part of ILGM. What means were used to contact people? At what time of day? The list goes on and on.
3. Not much need be said about question design, complete fails on #1 and #2 render the details irrelevant.

Anyone who gets this far in this missive is granted several extra smoke breaks, not to mention my admiration for patience. :pighug:
 
Definition of the target population that you need information from is critical. If the population, for example is AFN members, that makes definition easy. If the population is residents of the USA for another example, that makes for a bigger project to put it mildly. But whatever your target population is, it has to be defined clearly up front.

Once you know who you are interested in, you need to figure out how to sample them (it is rarely feasible to contact them all). This can be complicated for a variety of reasons, and is more often than not the reasons that polls and surveys fail. Just for example, (not getting into politics here, just using something recent that peeps here might have noticed) multiple polls underestimated Trump's likely election success because apparently those most likely to vote for him were least likely to respond to pollsters. Even if one were to sample AFN members, how to sample them becomes complicated. Many members are not currently active, are they excluded, and what would that do to interpretation of the results? There are an almost unlimited number of ways that sampling populations of people can fail due to unanticipated bias, and good surveys are careful to explain what has been done to avoid the obvious pitfalls.

Once you figure out who exactly your population is, and how to sample it, you need to figure out what to ask. Questions must legitimately generate information relevant to the issue being explored. But beyond that the language used is critical and must be sufficiently neutral to avoid introducing bias. I imagine we have all (those of us who have ever listened to the questions) experienced polling obviously designed to obtain the desired answers. I rarely partcipate in polls, often for this reason (although I have been known to strategically lie rather than leaving an obviously biased poll - feels good, but probably accomplishes little :biggrin:)

Bottom line, survey design is everything, absent bulletproof design from beginning to end, the output is not useful and could be harmful. Surveys on a country wide scale are huge, difficult, and expensive projects, and nonetheless regularly fail in spite of expert effort due to their complexity.

So, back to the ILGM report/survey, IMO it fails miserably on several counts:

1. The population is undefined. Exactly which home growers are part of the population? ILGM members only? Any US resident? Residents of legal US states only? Home growers who never ever sell anything? "Home growers" with what more accurately be described as a smallish grow up for illegal sale? Etc. Etc.
2. The sampling methods are undescribed. This is huge, especially if the population is intended to be country wide and not part of ILGM. What means were used to contact people? At what time of day? The list goes on and on.
3. Not much need be said about question design, complete fails on #1 and #2 render the details irrelevant.

Anyone who gets this far in this missive is granted several extra smoke breaks, not to mention my admiration for patience. :pighug:

:yeahthat:
100%

I'll take that smoke break now.
 
Tangent alert: Since political polls were mentioned:

I think that they are not realy used to predict winners. They can however influence voters/ consumers with carefully crafted questions. (Until I mentioned it you probably weren't thinking of steaming hot chicken pot pie)

They are often used by marketing companies and political parties to find out what the public wants them to say during their campaign.

Note that it's not what they will actually do. They want to know what the public wants to hear so their leaders know what bs to spew out.

Now I want chicken pot pie...
 
Has AFN published any even most basic member demographic or survey data? Where? Any Web site usage/access data, if only monthly or other reports likely available through your hosting service?

That information exists, but it requires actually doing the work to procure it. In the past when we've put together pitch decks for companies coming on the forum, we'd use a variety of sites like SimilarWeb, Alexa, Wolfram Alpha, and other analytical traffic related sites, on top of using Google Search Console for insights.

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Is this information important to you as a grower? It's important to companies that are interested in the forum, but I have never seen any members or growers go "where's the data?"
 

    Lil Dab

    Points: 10
    no but it is interesting data
Lots of marketing value, and interesting, but doesn't help me grow or consume...

Well presented graphic, by the way.
It would be interesting to compare 2024 to 2018 to see if there are shifting trends but it's not pragmatic curiosity.
 
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