Cambodian auto

[GeorgeCloney]

I'm gonna nut shell this to keep it simple.

I had 19 regulars growing last summer.
After having mixed the pollen of 3 regulars with some ruderalis. I got 3 to 4 hundred photo/rudi seeds.
Once regermed and replanted I got excellent crosses from a photo to ruderalis.
They need purification, of course.
I planted about 4 of the hybrid seeds.
All 4 had very photo traits, and flowered/pollenated. Within 90 days.
But with 3 to 4 hundred seeds all I need is a little time to play Darwin.
I have the land to experiment, but need the time to further development.

 

[Left]

Nice, Cloney!
What do you mean by excellent photo/rudi crosses? Did any of the potency from photo get through? That is my only concern. Other rudi traits like hardiness and speed are attractive traits, but my ruderalis has 0.1 to 3 percent thc. Hopefully the crosses can surpass that..

 

[Fitzy]

This is interesting bud I have been working some of my own crosses and like you decided I have used already stable autos to start crossing the photos and other auto genetics. I'm going to give you some of the best advice get ur self a good note book so u have away to document it and be able to refer back also don't worry about pheno selection as long as they are auto for f2, f1 don't matter start @ f3 with selection also from wat I've seen the female is the dominant one in the crosses I've done and I've done quite a few. If you want to check some mine they are in indoor growers section called mephisto/my crosses.

 

[Proph]

I'm gonna nut shell this to keep it simple.

I had 19 regulars growing last summer.
After having mixed the pollen of 3 regulars with some ruderalis. I got 3 to 4 hundred photo/rudi seeds.
Once regermed and replanted I got excellent crosses from a photo to ruderalis.
They need purification, of course.
I planted about 4 of the hybrid seeds.
All 4 had very photo traits, and flowered/pollenated. Within 90 days.
But with 3 to 4 hundred seeds all I need is a little time to play Darwin.
I have the land to experiment, but need the time to further development.

Wait.. So you did a cross of a photo and a rudi and grew out the seeds? Are you saying that you planted 4 of the f1 hybrids and all 4 had the auto trait?

 

[GeorgeCloney]

I grew 19 regular photos, and had 9 rudis.
Of the photos 3 or 4 were female. And of the rudis 5 were female.
I cross pollenated between each and got about 300 seeds from the female photos and 100 from the female rudis.
I later germinated about 20 seeds from both of which 18 seedlings sprouted.
7 males and 11 females.
Half developed as autos within 30 days and ugly as sin ( like the ruderalis parents) .
But leaves like the photos.
Some short some stretchy...
Some with 3 finger leaves like the rudis but most like the sativa side( 5 plus leaves).

These were f1, I pollenated the males to females for a trial.
All fems grew seeds.
But I scrapped the project because of lack of time and space.

 

[Left]

I have personally taken a auto from the f1 gen and hit it with fem pollen...
Also you can find autos in f1 there isn't many but they are there

Half of 18 seeds in Cloney's F1 being auto is quite remarkable, then..

 

[Fitzy]

4 out of 18 in F1 is still quite remarkable, though..

When I ran mine it seemed as though all the female plants were auto except 1 I had used a male photo and crossed it to deep blue c, sour diesel haze, skunk#1, and American pie auto fems an I ran 3 American pies the 2 were wat I would call fast photo it only flowered after putting them out both males the other was female, I also had 5 skunk#1s do the same semi auto like but male, and finally I had 2 sour diesel haze and 1 didn't do well and was called but the other was fem photo 100% almost didn't finish but was a great smoke that was enjoyed by all who smoked it, I luckily had the American pie males near it as it pollinated the first set of hairs which was awsome so I'm going to run them this year I'm hoping for some fast photos but we will see. I would also breed out multiple lines so I pick a male and pollenate all pheno even ones that don't look the greatest some interesting things have happened doing this. Scott from rare dankness did this with ghost train haze and found a super high 6%+cbd and a 16%thc pheno which ghost train is almost always under 1% cbd so it goes to show even breeders with worked photos can have random phenotypes so I have done similar and do them all then grow that next batch out and see wat they look like and repeat labeling everything ect .

 

[Left]

Cool, Fitzy. Early photos can be worth working further for outdoors. Looking forward to seeding your results. You have quite a bit of exciting work ahead

 

[Left]

Now my bubble cloner is operational. Got two Candida clones in there. After one week they look fresh and dandy as if still attatched to main stem. Looks like it is working. Piezo pump completely silent. Bubble sounds are almost inaudible as the bubbler is buried in the soil of the terrarium, and the underside of the lid is insulated with sponge. Terrarium plants and wood hide the small cuttings. Neat.
When the clones have rooted I can remove the Candida mother and flower her out, giving me more space in the small veg chamber. I will keep the clones tiny so I have room for the autos. The Kc45 will claim space.. They are by far the most vigorous in the veg chamber, the fem cambodian are not far behind, though. I have five more auto seedlings in there, waiting for a male to show, so I can pollinate the cambo. Headlights kush and lemon haze by emerald triangle seeds. The most sativa leaning auto seeds I have that are regular. Have a blueberry headband auto as well, it turned out female. Dr Feelgood female as well. The Kc45 I doubt will auto on me, being f1 sativa x rudy. I give it a month before I flower them and make f2s for true auto pollen for later use.
Kc45 should have potential. Not a polyhybrid, only rudy x brazilian sativa. When worked to f3 it should be fun. It is a shame that kc brains seems to have released a f1, calling it a true auto, several growers have reported huge plants, but waiting months to see it flower, ultimately being forced to induce flowering by switching to 12/12. They might have been able to produce their own f2s in the same time, if starting on 12/12 or 11/13..
In case I dont get any males from the autos in the veg chamber, I have also started some raspberry cough reg seeds in the flowering chamber. Nirvana cross of cambodian landrace x ice. Pollen from those will at least give me male cambo genes I can cross with the feminized cambo or a fem auto. This will set me back many months, though..

 

[Left]

Ok what's it been now, three weeks and very little progress. No preflowers on the auto yet. No roots on the Candida. Still perky clones with no wilting, but nothing happening on the stem. Seems the bubble cloner is not at fault, just a defiant plant. I will add a cutting of the Kc45 in the bubbler just to see if it catches up with the stubborn Candidas. I am sure it will root before they do..
The Kc45 are doing great, damn healthy and vigorous. The Cambodians are thriving as well, but a bit smaller, luckily. 6 vigorous sativas in a small veg chamber will soon be a challenge.