Calling out bad Autoflower genetics/actors

[pop22]

And just like tomatoes, the best will still be homegrown!

I am with you on that and I am going to put my tin hat on for a minute.

I am really worried. My professional life is private equity/finance and I can tell you there is more money than most people can fathom (think hundreds of billions) sitting on the sidelines waiting on lobbyist and legislation to be done.

What worries me is these guys do not move until they have an advantage or are on the verge of it. I think generationally years from now great weed will be few and far between and most people will be smoking bland very homogenous weed. Similar with what RJ Reynolds and Camel did with tobacco. The worst part is most of it will not be done with legislation. They just need to get around having to do the dispensary route and use their supply chain that is already in hundreds of thousands of locations. Dispensaries will almost all disappear (not that I am typically a fan anyway), in my opinion owning a dispensary will be like having old beanie babies...yeah they were worth something at one time but now...

They will create an image and spend billions upon billions on marketing and our grandkids will all be smoking dull mass marketed but very consistent products. They wont know any different and good cannabis will be a cottage industry at best. I just see them doing something like tobacco where it is aged so long it becomes uniform and that is how every cigarette tastes the same.

Okay tin hat off.....none of that will ever happen.

 

[AJrexxx]

I don't think it will take craft cannabis 80 years to take off like it took craft beer. Craft cannabis is here now, and we saw what happened with craft beer. I think that homogeneous product will be out there for 95% of smokers. Under the guise of 3 brands, but it will all be basically the same crap. But I think the craft industry will thrive as well. Unless big business is able to use legislation to crush its competition which is also likely.

I think I just posted a redundant message.

Craft beer is a fad and it has lost most of its luster if I had a dollar for every micro brewery that opened and closed even before the pandemic I would be rich. The reason craft cannabis will slowly decay is pricing and nostalgia....your grandchildren will not have the experience or excitement of chasing that cultivar looking for that lost taste from your youth you have yet to find(because it was black market and supply chain was a major issue). They will have grown up with being able to buy a ten pack at the gas station.

The same concept was used to destroy US manufacturing and it was way stronger than craft cannabis is now or ever will be. Think about this...go into a Walmart and look at the people struggling to make ends meat (i know its sad but necessary for this example) around the 3rd or 4th day of the month. They will be upset if they cant get some random item for for less than a dollar or they will be at another store and say I can get this at the dollar store. They are now pigeon holed into a purchasing decision based on circumstance not quality.

What they fail to realize is they really need a better job and more income not cheaper mass produced garbage. As a collective group America through away good jobs for cheap shit. $$$$ is always the lowest common denominator. Is Walmart evil? No, not really they gave people what they wanted. As a society we did not look at the ramifications or cost to our want. An overwhelming majority of people are sheep that is why marketing and celebrity promotions are so widely used.

Prime example posted by @CannabisMingus on his visit to the Emerald Cup Harvest Ball.

I do believe craft cannabis will survive but it will be a few location per major city not 100s because the money will be pulled to the cheaper mass marketed option.

I could go on and on but I do not want to hijack this thread more than I already have and no one wants to hear the ramblings of a crazy old man...to much.

 

[CannabisMingus]

the best will still be homegrown

It already is! Although I'm a relatively new grower (2 yrs) I am still amazed that the quality of the weed I grow (taste, potency, nose) is superior to anything I can get on the black market (prohibition state), generally superior to any smoke I have bought at a licensed dispensary, and - surprisingly - holds its own when compared to private headstash from cultivators whom I admire and respect.

No secret to success - just two steps: (1) buy good genetics, and (2) read AFN.

 

[AJrexxx]

And just like tomatoes, the best will still be homegrown!

Yes Pop you are right. Now how to get the younger generations to understand that once it happens that is the real question.

 

[terp182]

It already is! Although I'm a relatively new grower (2 yrs) I am still amazed that the quality of the weed I grow (taste, potency, nose) is superior to anything I can get on the black market (prohibition state), generally superior to any smoke I have bought at a licensed dispensary, and - surprisingly - holds its own as compared against other private grows from growers whom I admire and respect.

No secret to success - just two steps: (1) buy good genetics, and (2) read AFN.

Same here. I was excited to move from a prohibition state to a legal state, but the rec market here is all mids for flower, and most of the solventless concentrate isn't great, or if it is it's $80/g and up. My first, tortured medical crop was better smoke than anything I saw on the rec market, and my second was some of the best bud I've ever had. I agree 100% with your previous post - that's why accurate labeling and better understanding of what's being offered is so important. I don't want to blow 4 months learning a lesson on buying shit genetics (or genetics not what they claim to be, etc) because that impacts my own meds for the next few months as I'm only growing 4 plants at a time.

 

[olbobcat]

Same here. I was excited to move from a prohibition state to a legal state, but the rec market here is all mids for flower, and most of the solventless concentrate isn't great, or if it is it's $80/g and up. My first, tortured medical crop was better smoke than anything I saw on the rec market, and my second was some of the best bud I've ever had. I agree 100% with your previous post - that's why accurate labeling and better understanding of what's being offered is so important. I don't want to blow 4 months learning a lesson on buying shit genetics (or genetics not what they claim to be, etc) because that impacts my own meds for the next few months as I'm only growing 4 plants at a time.

I hear ya. Have not been to the dispensary forever. But the buds they gave you were dry as hell. Prerolls are just dust, and I cannot afford my concentrate habit. The other problem I find with buying genetics is that when you find a good plant, sometimes you cannot get the seeds again. I am one of those persons always chasing different strains, but I can see myself growing a lot of the same plants over again and again once I have my menu figured out.

 

[Briteleaf]

Agree that Craft cannabis is here now. In Oregon, a legal state, the difference between Craft cannabis and the buds in the stores is very evident. The buds in the store in a magnifier, look like the trees in Florida after a hurricane. All the heads have been beaten off of the trichomes. That, compared to a great auto that is absolutely stinky and covered with trichomes, pales by comparison. For example, the taste and high of a store bought Strawberry Fields doesn't compare to one grown locally. The flavor is obvious when vaped and the high is in a different league.

 

[Brownthumbs]

Agree that Craft cannabis is here now. In Oregon, a legal state, the difference between Craft cannabis and the buds in the stores is very evident. The buds in the store in a magnifier, look like the trees in Florida after a hurricane. All the heads have been beaten off of the trichomes. That, compared to a great auto that is absolutely stinky and covered with trichomes, pales by comparison. For example, the taste and high of a store bought Strawberry Fields doesn't compare to one grown locally. The flavor is obvious when vaped and the high is in a different league.

They are selling autoflowers as craft cannabis in dispensaries in Oregon? Great news for the Auto!! I've yet to see one advertised in the NV market. Yet I absolutely f'n guarantee you some of the autos(not all) my rookie ass has managed to harvest have been WAAAAYYYY tastier/stronger than some of the sawdust shit i've purchased from the local dispensaries.

 

[LandoCalripken]

They are selling autoflowers as craft cannabis in dispensaries in Oregon? Great news for the Auto!! I've yet to see one advertised in the NV market. Yet I absolutely f'n guarantee you some of the autos(not all) my rookie ass has managed to harvest have been WAAAAYYYY tastier/stronger than some of the sawdust shit i've purchased from the local dispensaries.

Autos are definitely breaking into the legal medical market in Maryland. Culta makes a 3Bears OG "live" concentrate. I personally haven't seen any actual flowers available but they may be out there.

 

[olbobcat]

Autos are definitely breaking into the legal medical market in Maryland. Culta makes a 3Bears OG "live" concentrate. I personally haven't seen any actual flowers available but they may be out there.

I have seen Mephisto Double Grape as well.