Calling out bad Autoflower genetics/actors

[Mir]

So you say you want to put Nympho out there for the public. But then when someone asks you if they can get some of your gear you say no.

That doesn't make any sense at all brother.

I think it's something he shares with a select few. I know I've seen mention of Murdah Cookies on this site at least twice.

 

[Autofire]

I think it's something he shares with a select few. I know I've seen mention of Murdah Cookies on this site at least twice.

Yeah still doesn't make sense. Each to their own

 

[Clem Fandango]

So you say you want to put Nympho out there for the public. But then when someone asks you if they can get some of your gear you say no.

That doesn't make any sense at all brother.

He just wanted to flex. He got to show off and mic dropped out.

Some people join forums to learn and share, some join to strut.

Meh, dime a dozen.

 

[Mir]

Yeah still doesn't make sense. Each to their own ✌

Doesn't make much sense to me either, but as you say, to each his own. That Nympho does look bloody awesome. Shame we cannot all get a crack at her.

 

[Jpkindbud]

It’s all good, I was just asking if they were publicly available… I appreciate the hard work put into breeding and when someone finds the “golden ticket” it’s awesome. Hopefully in the future he might change his mind and we get access!

 

[Blu_tri]

He just wanted to flex. He got to show off and mic dropped out.

Some people join forums to learn and share, some join to strut.

Meh, dime a dozen.

Wow where did they come from?¿.
Strutting…. I’m just showing everyone what can be achieved with a little dedication.
If you were paying attention, you would have noticed that my conversation is about knowing what you are buying. And knowing what to do with it when you buy it.
I trying to provide info to help brothers make better choices. Or show them what to with their choices.
Instead of constantly complaining, it’s just as easy to work your purchase into something more suitable to your needs and likings.
To everyone, the genetics are inside the plants. But remember someone has crosses it with either a pure ruderalis, which is doubtful, or another established autoflower.
In the case of the second, I think it is best to know that that auto is that people are crossing into the elite genetics that is being offered.
By know everyone should know that those genetics are wonky. So if you add those elites to a underwhelming auto flower, you can end up with a hot mess. Do your homework.
However, most of the bud is just find for the intended purpose of smoking. It gives the home grower a chance to experience bud that may be hard for some of us to get hand on
They give the auto growers new perspective, and the ability to join the highest tier of cannabis, so we all dive in head first.
Blu_ tri says, “before diving in, you may want to check to see if there are any sharks in the pool.”
Also, “before “I” call out a bad auto breeders”,
“I” prefer to check my own skills as an “auto grower.”
“Every method doesn’t work for every plant.”
Not to say that this isn’t a good topic, because we should talk about it.
Sharing our thoughts shouldn’t mean “be disrespectful to the breeder.”
A better way to put it is, “it wasn’t right for me.”
And then share your problems with the gear.
Fixing problems is what the AFN community is about. It shouldn’t be about forming “lynch mobs” against members of the community.
I guarantee the just because you don’t like a particular smoke there are thousand of others who love it.

The pic isn’t strutting brother. It’s me showing you what i did with some of the same purchases that you are making.
It was intended to be motivational.
Peace. Fly High!

 

[terp182]

Uh, this thread wasn’t formed to form some lynch mob and certainly not formed to rail against any single breeder.

Bad genetics is bad genetics though, and if breeders are cutting corners in either putting out F2 auto conversions or misattributed white labels, the buyers should absolutely discuss and share knowledge about who to avoid.

I’ve not once blamed a breeder on a bad grow. But I am concerned that I got took by a couple novelty auto lines when I first started buying. That’s what this thread is about. Whether you want to introduce your own supposed fire and not let anyone try it should honestly be in another thread altogether. Unless you’re providing some real insight as to how bad actors are doing similar things.

 

[Blu_tri]

Uh, this thread wasn’t formed to form some lynch mob and certainly not formed to rail against any single breeder.

Bad genetics is bad genetics though, and if breeders are cutting corners in either putting out F2 auto conversions or misattributed white labels, the buyers should absolutely discuss and share knowledge about who to avoid.

I’ve not once blamed a breeder on a bad grow. But I am concerned that I got took by a couple novelty auto lines when I first started buying. That’s what this thread is about. Whether you want to introduce your own supposed fire and not let anyone try it should honestly be in another thread altogether. Unless you’re providing some real insight as to how bad actors are doing similar things.

Brother here are my exact words
“Not to say that this isn’t a good topic, because we should talk about it.
Sharing our thoughts shouldn’t mean “be disrespectful to the breeder.”
I assure you that your post is a good one.
I’m asking others not use a great topic, as a reason to start crucifying breeders who’s gear we may not fully understand.
Forgive me if you thought I was disrespecting your post.
I don’t try to assume that I know what other breeders are doing in their program. There is no way to knowing. So I don’t speak on it. At least not in public. That just my opinion.

 

[GreenBean]

I guess I’m confused, but what qualifies someone as a breeder? Mephisto is a breeder, right? And others mentioned

But do many of the names mentioned in this thread even breed at all? Or are they just buying seeds from a large operation in Spain and relabeling them with a nice logo? It’s a legitimate question.

I cannot deny that the big name auto seeds companies have helped me dive deeper into searching out genetics. And I still grow them.

 

[Blu_tri]

Let’s address the white label.
What is it?
It when a random grower reverses a known breeders strain and offer seed for sell.
Why do we have white labels?
Because some grower can’t get access to the original breeders gear.
Maybe the original breeder doesn’t offer the gear in seed form.
Or the grower doesn’t want to pay the breeders price.
In any case, it’s not the best practice to get seeds.
In other words, “the grower takes his own shortcuts.” And choose to swim with the sharks.
I’m thinking this is what the brother is referring to as a f2. I’m not sure.
Here is me trying to help >>> it doesn’t matter how many “f’s” are in a a cross. That’s just it, the “f” mean first.
So even if a strain is noted as F10, that simply means the breeder is at the 10th time he has made crosses in his creation.
So f1 are 2 different strains crosses, f2 is something else is added, f3 mean something is crosses with that. So the strain isn’t stable.
When the strain get to where the breeder likes it, he no longer makes crosses to it, he then breeds 2 of his “f?” together and make his first generation. Gen 1. Gen 1 x gen 1 = gen 2… and so on.
If the breeder take something else and it to the gen 2, the resulting cross once again become a “f1” and the process starts over at that point.
All I asked is for everyone to pay attention to what they are buying. Don’t just assume that you are purchasing worked out strains.
We put ourself in this position because we don’t understand what we are purchasing.
The Nympho is at gen 7
The Murdah cookies is at gen 1, breed as (cookies and chem x Nympho gen 3) x (gorilla cookies x Nympho gen 3). Even with the breedings I put into her, she is a “f1”.
Here is another example using my Cruella. Cruella x Cruella = Cruella f2 aka Cruella gen 1.
That’s why it’s important to know how it’s breed, instead of just looking at how many f’s that a strain has.
Know the difference, because you got exactly what purchased. It’s not the breeds fault that you did not understand you was buying.
Mephisto, fastbuds, Dutch passions, and the host of others. So good work. Try crossing an auto to a photo yourself and see how much wrk is involved. Then learn to appreciate what’s going on from a breeders perspective.

Hopefully I didn’t offend anyone by the “free education”. Hopefully this helps people better understand what they are buying. And If you are buying from a breeder that doesn’t understand this, you may want reconsider.