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It will be nice to come out of the dark. This is how people used to get their booze. I think of us a modern day bootleggers.
 
I would love to get into the industry.. market a turnkey, attractive grow box that can easily grow two plants a time and perpetually harvesting 4 oz every 3 month nearly fully automatic. The market would be incredibly competitive but im sure i could find a niche and market the system on a local level.

My pipe dream tho is to own some land and farm giant 10 foot trees :) one day..
 
I think there are tens of thousands of folks that would pay a couple bucks a month to watch a streaming grow or a live Roku channel ... one that had really clear video and discussed deficiencies and how to treat them ... maybe a room for each of a 1/2 doz different types of grows. I think a computer savvy guy that can grow could make a killing and be profitable real quick...
 
That would be cool, im subbed up to a lot of youtube grows and there are some professional people, with fun personalities that log their grows and go into great detail. If im not mistaken, they make good money by their advertisements and merch. Lately though one of my fave growers was taken down by youtube though!
 
It will be nice to come out of the dark. This is how people used to get their booze. I think of us a modern day bootleggers.

That's exactly what I think of us as! I'm sure there are plenty of bootleggers that made a pretty penny once the prohibition era ended

I think there are tens of thousands of folks that would pay a couple bucks a month to watch a streaming grow or a live Roku channel ... one that had really clear video and discussed deficiencies and how to treat them ... maybe a room for each of a 1/2 doz different types of grows. I think a computer savvy guy that can grow could make a killing and be profitable real quick...

I think you're right, Chester. A lot of beginner growers would probably benefit from something like that! There is going to be a lot of opportunity coming with legalization, and I can't wait to see how many of us answer the door when opportunity comes a knocking!
 
The Kennedys. And yes JAYAR that is one of the reasons I'd love to develop a hydro controller.
 
Yes, the Kennedys started a dynasty off liquor money!
 
Once big business comes in it will change everything and for those that truly care for the plant and its uses will greatly benefit. The legalization talks have already exposed those that only wish to exploit people and see the plant as money and power and those are the people that say they are pro cannabis but still fight against legalization.

I was 100% with you until this sentence... I was once pro legalization before I realized legalization means: huge fees to get started, huge overhead costs, money, money, money. It will only be accessible to people backed by shiteloads of - legal - money. That money is only put there to make more money, so greed will overtake the cannabis industry, just like any industry in this fucked up capitalist economy.

Legalization = mold it into a bunch of laws and regulations so only the big boys can play and exploit the people. Small entrepreneurs that want to actually do good with the potential of cannabis will find themselves unable to find any ground.

Look at the meat industry. It's in most countries forbidden to own animals to kill and eat. If you want to eat meat, you need to buy it in a legal store(=pays taxes), they get it from a legal farmer(= pays taxes, buys chemically sprayed GMO feed), that has to bring it to the slaughterhouse(= corporate owned, exploits people working the lines) etc etc. No way around any of these. This is the same with all the industries. If you need huge investments to get in something the only thing you'll want from it is money so you don't go under. Fuck whatever ideals you once had once you want to play with the big boys.

It's a trap I tell ya!
 
Once big business comes in it will change everything and for those that truly care for the plant and its uses will greatly benefit. The legalization talks have already exposed those that only wish to exploit people and see the plant as money and power and those are the people that say they are pro cannabis but still fight against legalization.

I was 100% with you until this sentence... I was once pro legalization before I realized what legalization really is. What we need is full decriminalization. Grow it everywhere, smoke it everywhere, it's part of nature!

Legalization = mold it into a bunch of laws and regulations so only the big boys can play and exploit the people. Small entrepreneurs that want to actually do good with the potential of cannabis will find themselves unable to find any ground.

Look at the meat industry. It's in most countries forbidden to own animals to kill and eat. If you want to eat meat, you need to buy it in a legal store(=pays taxes), they get it from a legal farmer(= pays taxes, buys chemically sprayed GMO feed), that has to bring it to the slaughterhouse(= corporate owned, exploits people working the lines) etc etc. No way around any of these. This is the same with all the industries - you can't grow the best healthiest cancerkilling organic tomato in the world in your own backyard and sell it so someone legally. If you need huge investments to get in something the only thing you'll want from it is money so you don't go under. Fuck whatever ideals you once had when you try to play with the big boys.

It's a trap I tell ya!
 
sprinkl, the money is where you're getting it all wrong. Just look at the craft beer industry. Budweiser, Miller, ect are all backed by big money companies but their mass produced cheap stuff is still losing ground to the small specialty brewers everyday. The problem is that there ae literally thousands of craft brewers and theres only so many people that are willing to spend a LITTLE more for their better quality product.

So for the individual that is buying the fact that there is a big money company, along with a plethora of small, but higher quality producers means that the prices will never jump. Once one of the quality producers tries to charge way more, the customers will either set them straight by not spending their money with them and going to either the cheap, mass produced big money stuff or one of the many other small but quality producers. I don't care how you spin it, that is good for the consumer and bad for only those that think they will be able to come in and charge prohibition era prices to get rich quick.

As for the whole big business coming in and forcing regulations that only let them produce, again look at the beer/wine or tobacco laws. A person can grow all the tobacco they want and are allowed to make their own beer/wine, but they can not sell ANY of it. So for you and others to say it will be different with cannabis is just silly. If you don't want to support big business because they made it impossible for a small guy to become the "king of cannabis" then all you'd have to do is grow your own plants. If you have a sick family member or friend that can't actually grow their own then you could be a nice guy and set it all up for them on thier property and do all the work for them, just don't try to make money off them and everything would be fine.

But honestly the main point of my original post wasn't about big business ruining it for the small guy. It was to send the point that once its legal and large corporations can mass produce it without worry of the law then the market value will plummet. Everyone that thinks it will be anywhere near prohibition price levels is a full and most businesses will fail because they will be setup by people thinking that they will be able to continue to charge $300-400 an ounce for something that a big corporation is producing for pennies. Not to mention how the supply would destroy the demand when every farmer stopped growing wheat, corn, ect for pennies compared to the thousands they would make for an equal amount of cannabis.
 
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