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If it was up to me all that shit would be blocked.no google,no face book no nothing.I clicked on some fukin thing once when I ordered seeds and the next day I hab sed adds all over my facebook page.I no longer am on facebook or any other public media.Iwish we would block all that shit for good."Grrr""Grrr"

I noticed the same thing after surfing to some seed shop sites. The next day I was seeing ads for seeds- not just in google but on various other websites where advertising is used. I don't even have a google account, so the data mining must be based on something broader.
I no longer expect privacy on the internet or my cel phone.
 
I do believe that if my provider cut my service for using Tor - that I wouldn't reconnect with their services.

I can't think of any reasons why they would do that - unless they can't track your bandwidth usage as easily? Otherwise - to me that would be a red flag that they're a little too interested in tracking my internet usage. If they take my money every month - then they provide connection at my residence - what I do with it from there is my business.

I understand that in Canada we often don't have a choice of providers - due to remoteness of location, but I live in a smallish town and have a choice of two or three - the one I use has no issues with the use of Tor - but I'd drop them like a hot potato if I recieved a message like you did, Bob.
YMMV.

unfortunately i cant afford the swich , im limited but do have some choices , but the cost of swiching has me stuck where im at , but trust me id like to tell them to shove it up their ass , and actually have/do , whenever they end a call with me its always "is there a reason your bill got so high and wasnt payed for so long"

i always reply " BECAUSE YOU CHARGE TOO FUKKING MUCH ! "

but yeah , their issue is id be running though someone elses servers and they cant spy oops i mean protect me

peace :Cool:
 
unfortunately i cant afford the swich , im limited but do have some choices , but the cost of swiching has me stuck where im at , but trust me id like to tell them to shove it up their ass , and actually have/do , whenever they end a call with me its always "is there a reason your bill got so high and wasnt payed for so long"

i always reply " BECAUSE YOU CHARGE TOO FUKKING MUCH ! "

but yeah , their issue is id be running though someone elses servers and they cant spy oops i mean protect me

peace :Cool:

Ha ha - I hear ya!

The monthly charges are a bit much - especially if you bundle cable, net and phone with a larger national outfits, like I do.

The writing is on the wall in regards to the cable, though - I think we're not far off from very easy access to completely free HD cable through our bandwidth. To a great extent its all available now (through Netflix, Hula, MacTV, etc) - but for hardcore hockey fans like myself, a cable connection needs to be maintained to watch all 80-odd games my "home" team plays in crystal clear HD - and I accept that as the reality, for the time being.

However - the day when I can unplug my TV from the cable connection completely, isn't far off - and cable providers know that.

I think they (again, the larger national providers) realize that maintaining an internet providing relationship with as many of their customers as possible, will be the best they can hope for down the road - and they seem to be very motivated in keeping that relationship on a stable footing.

I've used this to my advantage - and have worked a number of screaming deals with my provider (and received some free swag) - by calling them and letting them know I'm seriously contemplating switching to the competition. I pay way less for my internet and HD package than I would had I just accepted their offered monthly rate. Way less.

I've found these tips to be of use when "negotiating" with them.

Pay electronically with a "paperless" account - and pay on-time for a few months before calling (this saves them money in monthly mailings - and seems to put you in the "preferred client" category).

Call the national/provincial 1-800 number rather than visiting their local office. I've found the national or provincial office can offer way better deals than the lady at the desk of my local office.

Be over-the-top friendly. Ask how the weather is where they are - the "just two pals talking" approach really does work when dealing with folks that speak with unhappy customers all day, every day!

If you think you can work a better deal than the operator is offering, ask nicely if you can speak with the supervisor - theres one there at all times, and they sometimes have a better deal up their sleeve than the call center operator has the authority to OK.

Anyway - this has turned into a bit of a novel (just back from an 8km dog walk/vape session) - but I hope you can use some of it to negotiate a better deal than you feel you're getting now, Bob - and one that has a little more latitude in their terms of ISP service!

EDIT: I just read your post above again (slow reading comprehension, ATM!) - and see you are concerned with the cost of switching.

If you have access to one of the national providers (Shaw, Rogers, etc) - give them a call and tell them you are thinking of switching to them from your current provider - and what can they offer you.

They will make it very much worth your while (in the short term, especially) to switch to them - free/reduced cost months of service, free stuff etc. When I last switched, they came and ran new and very high quality co-ax cable all through my house, gave me two free PVR's, and three months of 1/3 cost internet service.

Unless there are some extenuating circumstance (and I can't imagine one that would stop them from wanting to add you as a customer) - there won't be any cost to you in making a switch - quite the contrary, you might be very surprised in the savings offered to you.

When the period of reduced billing is finished, pay a couple of months at full price - then give them a call and tell them you are thinking of switching to their competitor - you'll create the perfect storm of reduced billing offers - ha ha - or at least, thats what I've found to be the case!

Great luck to you,Bob!
 
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I recall a program with good intentions that innocently backfired. Must have been a little over five years ago.

The program would automatically conduct ongoing web browser searches. The objective was to flood your Google search etc. with constant random searches. The goal was to confuse the tracking process.

It backfired because on occasions it would by shear randomness include words that are highly suspect. Odd terms that might have legal implications. I don't want to mention any.

Of course, Firefox has loads of blocking programs that accomplish the same thing.

You all are correct. Surfing the net is like being in the library of old with a librarian looking over your shoulder and taking notes.

Occasionally, I still enter some weird search for fun, e.g. aphrodisiacs for sheep--------"smile".
 
I switched over to ghostery last night. I was unaware of all this! I'm safer now?

Great program. Blocks all of the swine.

Try Light Beam. It shows all linked poachers.

AFN server is a rarity--no linking etc. When one logs on goes just to the site server in the Netherlands.
 
i wish it was that easy Guerrilla_in_the_mist , they got us by the balls in my area , the only options i have are from a couple small companies who arent even local and send a service tech from quite a ways away lol so its costly on their end too

ill give some thought to the strange concept (to me) you gave about being nice to them :stylez rasta smoke:

peace :Cool:
 
I switched over to ghostery last night. I was unaware of all this! I'm safer now?

You are never safe - Ed Snow has blown that bubble - using Ghostery helps
against marketing trackers - but if you are not using a very complicated
system of server mirrors, encryption, sim card swopping, changing physical
addresses etc. etc. ala Asange - and have a massive support base you are
readable and findable!
Use plain everyday common sense on a regular basis if you want basic privacy...
I hate to let you know - but all online transactions, searches,
social network posts etc. are being logged by government agencies and
commercial companies (isp's).
It is called big data - it has been going on for a long time.
It is used mainly to control economic activity.
Being logged does not mean being tracked - which is the case for almost every
single one of us when we go online - we are logged but not tracked.
The amount of information being logged is beyond comprehension for us ordinary mortals
unless you are a security systems admin with a lot of knowledge.

Whether cannabis use becomes legal worldwide or not is not the issue - I doubt localized
law enforcement agencies have the technical or manpower resources to use this information
to find and apprehend closet growers. Nor the inclination...

Corporations will be gathering information to exploit most people - for financial gain...

That is the real bottom line...

By writing this I become a very slight target - but I have decided that I'm willing to
take the blows if required - if you have a lot to lose - don't use digital technology...

If you are worried about security - it is nutty neighbors that will shop you...

I had a conversation today with a 'friend' - he shopped 'drug dealers' - I nodded
and told him how bad these people are - this person is an arse but I'm not giving
him an inch...

It is a bit like it used be when people were coming out of the closet - very ironic -
I think we may have to march and come out of the closet - if ten thousand people
come out and say 'I am that way' - then maybe things will change...

It is always about what you have to lose - like being gay in a sham marriage...

Otto

ps. don't think about this stuff if you have had a massive home grown spliff -
go to the woods, beach, lake and snuggle up to your girl/boyfriend...

'It is about money...this cannabis thing...'
 
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ive said this before but APPARENTLY i have to say it AGAIN

my isp will NOT allow me to use TOR

they SHUT ME DOWN and give me a page that says i am only alowed to run their servers

so please members , when you give advice , know what you are talking about

peace :Cool:

I do know what I am talking about.

You know it is not common knowledge to know everyones ISP provider...
 
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