New Grower automazar and afghan kush ryders

[dingoDark]

A soil pH of 7 is too high, even for a soil grow, let alone a soil less one. Soil should be about 6.5 You were given good advice when told to run it more like hydro. If you look at this chart you will see that with a pH of 7 in hydro, just about everything is being locked out, especially calcium.

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Too bad you just fed yesterday as that would have been a good time to hit them with more of the Mother Earth tea. I don't think you need to flush, just wait till they are ready to be fed again and use the tea. I would adjust the pH of the feed to about 5.8 and check the pH of the run off.

I would also pick up a cal/mag supplement and start feeding it with every feeding. Cal/mag deficiencies are common with autos, especially when grown soil less.

Bear in mind when dealing with hydro store that it's pretty likely that they have no experience with auto flowering plants. They aren't the same as photos and have different nutrient requirements.

Ok,then i feed with mother earth at ph 5.8 when its time to water..I dont have cal/mag,that will be very difficult for me to get a hold on...This is alle the nutes i have: Biobizz grow,bloom,topmax,fish mix and alg-a-mic. AN mother earth tea grow and overdrive,and no mercy guano extract. Can some of this be a good source of cal/mag?

 

[Muddy]

I'm not familiar with all those products. Do any of them list calcium and magnesium as primary ingredients?

Give me a list of the N-P-K, as well as any other primary ingredients, of them all and I'll see if I can make a recommendation. Try and find some cal/mag. It's a must for soil less growing.

 

[dingoDark]

I'm not familiar with all those products. Do any of them list calcium and magnesium as primary ingredients?

Give me a list of the N-P-K, as well as any other primary ingredients, of them all and I'll see if I can make a recommendation. Try and find some cal/mag. It's a must for soil less growing.

Non of these products have it as primary ingredients,its just like 0,8-9% calsium. I'll try tomorrow at the regular garden store,hope they have cal/mag there. I watered some of the plants now,they where pretty dry some of them,gave full strength tea at ph 5.8.

Just to clear some things up,the one photo strain that sits in fox farm ocean forest now is ok to feed with ph 6,7 right? And the other photo strain in Plagron light mix also feed ph 5,8 like my autos right?

 

[Muddy]

I'd still like to see what the N-P-K ratios are on all of those products so I can help make sure you feed the proper ones at the proper time. pH of 6.5 for the other plant in the OF.

 

[dingoDark]

I'd still like to see what the N-P-K ratios are on all of those products so I can help make sure you feed the proper ones at the proper time. pH of 6.5 for the other plant in the OF.

Advanced nutrients Overdrive,npk 1-5-4.:http://advancednutrients.com/hydroponics/products/overdrive/overdrive_product_information.php

Advanced N.
Mother earth super tea,grow,npk 4,8-1,8-4,3:http://www.advancednutrients.com/hy...other_earth_super_tea_product_information.php

bio grow,npk on my bottle is 8,0-2,0-6,0. The one in link has another npk: http://www.environmentalgreenproducts.com/store/biobizz-bio-grow-pr-16374.html

Bio bloom,npk 2,0-6,0-3,5:
http://www.gchydro.com/BioBizz+Bio-Bloom.html

Topmax,npk 0.1-0.01-0.1: http://www.gchydro.com/BioBizz+TopMax.html

Alg-a-mic npk 0,1-0,1-0,1: http://www.environmentalgreenproducts.com/store/biobizz-alg-a-mic-pr-16376.html

fish-mix npk 6,0-2,0-4,0: http://www.growell.co.uk/biobizz-fish-mix.html
Muddy said: PH of 6.5 for the other plant in the OF. And photo strains in plagron also feed ph 5.8 right?

 

[dingoDark]

I have now bought this,npk is 4-0-0. But as i read,this is just for the veg period,damn i should bought one for flower to right?: http://www.norfolklights.com/sensical-grow-mg-mix-advanced-nutrients-p-38.html

 

[Muddy]

Yes, anything in the 6.5, in the Plagron 5.8.

Okay, looks like you've got 3 things for veg, the Tea, the Bio Grow and the Fish Mix. If you feed them all at once it would be too much and would probably burn the plants. You might split them and use every other feeding. Maybe 1/4 strength Grow and 1/4 strength Fish one time, then 1/4 strength Grow and 1/4 strength Tea the next. Watch the plants to see how they like it and work up on the strength.

For flowering you've got the Bio Bloom, Topmax and Overdrive. Again, more than you need all at once. Maybe feed 1/4 strength bloom each feeding and rotate the Topmax and Overdrive at 1/4 strength, again working up in strength based on how the plants like them.

You've got a lot of different nutrients, probably more than you need, so be careful not to overdue it.

Advanced nutrients Overdrive,npk 1-5-4.:http://advancednutrients.com/hydroponics/products/overdrive/overdrive_product_information.php

Advanced N.
Mother earth super tea,grow,npk 4,8-1,8-4,3:http://www.advancednutrients.com/hy...other_earth_super_tea_product_information.php

bio grow,npk on my bottle is 8,0-2,0-6,0. The one in link has another npk: http://www.environmentalgreenproducts.com/store/biobizz-bio-grow-pr-16374.html

Bio bloom,npk 2,0-6,0-3,5:
http://www.gchydro.com/BioBizz+Bio-Bloom.html

Topmax,npk 0.1-0.01-0.1: http://www.gchydro.com/BioBizz+TopMax.html

Alg-a-mic npk 0,1-0,1-0,1: http://www.environmentalgreenproducts.com/store/biobizz-alg-a-mic-pr-16376.html

fish-mix npk 6,0-2,0-4,0: http://www.growell.co.uk/biobizz-fish-mix.html
Muddy said: PH of 6.5 for the other plant in the OF. And photo strains in plagron also feed ph 5.8 right?

 

[dingoDark]

Yes, anything in the 6.5, in the Plagron 5.8.

Okay, looks like you've got 3 things for veg, the Tea, the Bio Grow and the Fish Mix. If you feed them all at once it would be too much and would probably burn the plants. You might split them and use every other feeding. Maybe 1/4 strength Grow and 1/4 strength Fish one time, then 1/4 strength Grow and 1/4 strength Tea the next. Watch the plants to see how they like it and work up on the strength.

For flowering you've got the Bio Bloom, Topmax and Overdrive. Again, more than you need all at once. Maybe feed 1/4 strength bloom each feeding and rotate the Topmax and Overdrive at 1/4 strength, again working up in strength based on how the plants like them.

You've got a lot of different nutrients, probably more than you need, so be careful not to overdue it.

I was thinking to rotate a bit yes and se how they handle it What is your opinion on the calmag from AN i bought today? But i have to buy one for flowering as well right?
The four that got water yesterday with tea and ph 5.8 is looking good today,they'r not droopy anymore Next watering i will give them small strenghts with grow and calmag. Thank u so much for your help muddy,you have saved my grow from being a total disaster. Many thanks.

 

[Muddy]

The AN cal/mag looks like a good product. I've not personally used it. And yes, they sell it as two different products for veg and bloom. I'd be careful with the veg one. It has a good bit of N in it and you're already got a lot of N with your other nutes. This is what I've been using: http://www.plantlightinghydroponics...sium-and-calcium-supplement-liter-p-2916.html. A lot less expensive and can be used throughout the whole grow.

You're quite welcome. Just glad I could help.

 

[dingoDark]

The AN cal/mag looks like a good product. I've not personally used it. And yes, they sell it as two different products for veg and bloom. I'd be careful with the veg one. It has a good bit of N in it and you're already got a lot of N with your other nutes. This is what I've been using: http://www.plantlightinghydroponics...sium-and-calcium-supplement-liter-p-2916.html. A lot less expensive and can be used throughout the whole grow.

You're quite welcome. Just glad I could help.

Yes i noticed the N in it,therfore i gave 1/2 strength tea and full strength calmag earlyer today as the other ones needed some. I cant belive what i have missed the former grows with this high ph,i guess the fun part begins now my friend.