Werner Heisenburg
Brother from another mother.
Ok, not to get of track of the above threads but I do have an age old question about flushing, this is more of an experiment in the technique of flushing, I suppose.
Many years ago, an old MJ grower told me to flush for 5-7 days, like most of us do with RO water, maybe some clearex, I use flawless finish myself from AN. After that flush, put those pots into another pot, no holes, and flood with straight RO water. In essence, you will be drowning the root system for another 5-7 days then harvest.
The old man noted, when you drown the roots for another 5-7 days, it makes for a better, cleaner smoke.... Or he's blowing smoke up my arse!!.
I myself grow pretty simple. Easy seems to always win, I tried most of the snake oil out their and get some weird plants in the end,,. So I keep it simple with nutes, no more shit I can't pronounce and just stick with the basics. With that said, I grow in coco and soil so I do like to flush. DWC, I love just not enough room.
Anyways, would soaking, drowning, the root system do ANYTHING better for our autos?.. More heft, size, cleaner smoke???..
I decided to finish off 5 girls off this way a few weeks ago. The interesting part is, during the drowning phase of flushing, the girls did put more weight on for sure!!.. I had branches of buds bent over when they were upright a few days prior. The fan leaves, what fan leaves I had left, turned all yellow or orange. Now, they did put on a lot more weight and did swell a bit more during this phase. Is it because they just absorbed more water?.. Prior to this, I flushed twice a day running RO with flawless finish for close to 7 days. The water towards the end of that flush was pretty clean.
I read an artical published by a university studying the effects plants go through when the roots are submerged in water for long periods of time. Wish I could find that artical again!!. This is what I remembered;...
Fermentation is strictly defined as any way of anaerobically degrade pyruvic acid and recycle NAD+ to keep glycolysis going. You can then categorize this process as lactic acid fermentation (where pyruvate accepts electrons from NADH directly and becomes lactate), alcoholic fermentation (where pyruvate is first decarboxylated to acetaldehyde which then accepts electrons from NADH to become ethanol) and others (which are much more obscure). So technically, human cells are able to carry out lactic acid fermentation. Liver cells also have the enzyme alcohol dehydrogenase (responsible for ethanol formation in yeast and other fungi), but we use it in the reverse direction so to speak to get rid of any alcohol which we consume by converting it to pyruvate.
Plants however, can carry out alcoholic fermatation. They don't normally do it, because plants are usually in contact with oxygen. However, if you flood the root of a plant for about a week the cells are starved of oxygen, and because of this they will start carrying out alcoholic fermentation to survive.
So, dose this drowning of roots start the fermentation/curing process prior to the actual harvest?.. Dose it provide a slower, more stable cure when it's actually curing?.... @Corgy, any ideas?..
I'm still in the process of curing so I have no reports yet from the ones I pulled down a few weeks ago..
BS myth or some truth?.. Thoughts are always welcomed!!.
Many years ago, an old MJ grower told me to flush for 5-7 days, like most of us do with RO water, maybe some clearex, I use flawless finish myself from AN. After that flush, put those pots into another pot, no holes, and flood with straight RO water. In essence, you will be drowning the root system for another 5-7 days then harvest.
The old man noted, when you drown the roots for another 5-7 days, it makes for a better, cleaner smoke.... Or he's blowing smoke up my arse!!.
I myself grow pretty simple. Easy seems to always win, I tried most of the snake oil out their and get some weird plants in the end,,. So I keep it simple with nutes, no more shit I can't pronounce and just stick with the basics. With that said, I grow in coco and soil so I do like to flush. DWC, I love just not enough room.
Anyways, would soaking, drowning, the root system do ANYTHING better for our autos?.. More heft, size, cleaner smoke???..
I decided to finish off 5 girls off this way a few weeks ago. The interesting part is, during the drowning phase of flushing, the girls did put more weight on for sure!!.. I had branches of buds bent over when they were upright a few days prior. The fan leaves, what fan leaves I had left, turned all yellow or orange. Now, they did put on a lot more weight and did swell a bit more during this phase. Is it because they just absorbed more water?.. Prior to this, I flushed twice a day running RO with flawless finish for close to 7 days. The water towards the end of that flush was pretty clean.
I read an artical published by a university studying the effects plants go through when the roots are submerged in water for long periods of time. Wish I could find that artical again!!. This is what I remembered;...
Fermentation is strictly defined as any way of anaerobically degrade pyruvic acid and recycle NAD+ to keep glycolysis going. You can then categorize this process as lactic acid fermentation (where pyruvate accepts electrons from NADH directly and becomes lactate), alcoholic fermentation (where pyruvate is first decarboxylated to acetaldehyde which then accepts electrons from NADH to become ethanol) and others (which are much more obscure). So technically, human cells are able to carry out lactic acid fermentation. Liver cells also have the enzyme alcohol dehydrogenase (responsible for ethanol formation in yeast and other fungi), but we use it in the reverse direction so to speak to get rid of any alcohol which we consume by converting it to pyruvate.
Plants however, can carry out alcoholic fermatation. They don't normally do it, because plants are usually in contact with oxygen. However, if you flood the root of a plant for about a week the cells are starved of oxygen, and because of this they will start carrying out alcoholic fermentation to survive.
So, dose this drowning of roots start the fermentation/curing process prior to the actual harvest?.. Dose it provide a slower, more stable cure when it's actually curing?.... @Corgy, any ideas?..
I'm still in the process of curing so I have no reports yet from the ones I pulled down a few weeks ago..
BS myth or some truth?.. Thoughts are always welcomed!!.
