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Nutrient Problems

Nitrogen Deficiency
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Cannabis is a fast growing plant species and requires generous amounts of nitrogen throughout growth and early flowering. Nitrogen is regarded as belonging to the group of three primary nutrients essential for plant growth. The other two nutrients in this group are phosphorus and potassium. These will be dealt with here separately. Nitrogen is stored mainly in the leaves and shoot tips, which is why it is inadvisable to remove healthy leaves on plants, as these are the "storage house" for important nutrients. The production of enzymes, proteins, chlorophyll and other vital ingredients for healthy development are all dependent on nitrogen. Chlorophyll lends plants their green color which is why yellowing leaves are a telltale sign of N deficiency.
Causes:
A serious pest infestation of aphids, white flies, or spider mites that suck out the leaves leads to deficiency symptoms.
Too small container size for adult plants is one of the most common mistakes in cannabis growing. Especially in light intensive situations such as balcony or garden grows the plants will quickly yellow and wilt. Don't be too lazy and repot your plants. You can do this up to the third week of flowering even.
Poor soil quality. The second major cause for a deficiency. The importance of using quality grade horticultural soil cannot be stressed enough. Do not use topsoil from the forest if you are not certain about it's nitrogen content. Decomposed leaf material contains no nitrogen (obviously since these are the yellowed leaves shed by the trees!) and makes up for a large percentage of forest topsoil. Also loamy and sandy soil are mainly devoid of important nutrients. If you do utilize such soil in guerilla grows, etc. then make sure to supplement it with long term acting fertilizer, or enrich it with a mix of organic nutrients (bat guano, composted soil, etc.) that have sufficient quantities of nitrogen to support plant growth.
A pH imbalance will block nutrient uptake in the root zone. Make sure that you keep the pH within the acceptable range for soil or hydroponics.
Lack of fertilizing. A minimum of fertilizing on soil is usually necessary to boost plant growth, since cannabis tends to grow faster than the roots can assimilate the natural nutrients in soil. In low light situations or indoors this is less of an issue than in a greenhouse/outdoors/or in a setup using CO2. With high quality soil and a good container size you can probably do without any grow fertilizer if you are cultivating short to medium sized plants.
Symptoms:
The lower leaves yellow between the veins until the entire leaf is eventually yellow. It wilts and dies.
The symptoms spread upwards affecting all sun leaves and then the smaller and younger leaves as well.
Plant growth is inhibited. The plants remain short and underdeveloped if nitrogen deficiency is severe in the growth phase.
During flowering early deficiency can lead to a significant decrease in yield. Plants that are in the last 3 weeks of flowering do not require nitrogen if they have remained reasonably healthy up to that point. A yellowing and shedding of leaves during the final weeks of flowering is quite natural among otherwise healthy plants and should not be held up by heroic dosages of nitrogen (which would result in many undesirable complications such as: mold, sudden stop in bud development, dying of pistils, over-fertilization, rejuvenation/leaf growth in buds).
Appearance of male flowers on female plants.

Phosphorus Deficiency
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Growers are nowadays so obsessed with yield that a P deficiency has become less common. The market is overflowing with products that supposedly increase bud production. These chemical cocktails and organic wonder mixes are made with high levels of phosphorus. The trend to pump the plants full of a variety of "bud boosters", often at extremely high dosages (ie. EC levels), is generally of more concern than combating deficiency symptoms! The good news is that cannabis can store large amount of P in it's shoot and root tips and in the vascular tissue. But still, one should tread the middle path, as with all plant nutrients, and not overfeed the plants.
Phosphorus is required during all stages of plant development – especially during pronounced root and bud growth. It is necessary for photosynthesis and is a component of enzymes and proteins.
Causes:
Poor soil quality lacking sufficient amounts of phosphorus; loamy or waterlogged soil.
A pH imbalance will block nutrient uptake in the root zone. Make sure that you keep the pH within the acceptable range for soil or hydroponics (between 5.8 and 6.8).
Lack of fertilizing. A minimum of fertilizing on soil is usually necessary to boost plant growth, since cannabis tends to grow faster than the roots can assimilate the natural nutrients in soil. During flowering the phosphorus stored in the plant is gradually used up. Low to medium range dosages of a quality grade fertilizer are sufficient to prevent any serious P deficiency in the peak period of flowering if you cultivating on soil. In hydroponics the plants have a steady supply of readily available nutrients, so it is not necessary to increase EC levels and "force" plants to produce more buds. This can backfire and lead to over-fertilization with all it's accompanying problems. If you do want to give your plants more P without raising the EC level, then consider adding osmosis water to your tap water to lower the starting EC level. This way you can add some more fertilizer without affecting the regular EC level of the nutrient solution.
Over-fertilization. Too many salts in your medium will cause phosphate to become chemically bound and unavailable to the plants. In hydroponics you can flush the system. But in soil grows this is more of a problem since you will wash out important nutrients and cause the soil to become waterlogged.
Symptoms:
In young plants a deficiency slows growth. The plants are underdeveloped with a poor root zone and small bluish-green leaves.
In flowering plants the leaves turn reddish-purple. This generally starts at the leaf tips and spreads towards the leaf stem. Stems may also redden. In acute cases leaves turn necrotic and fall off.
Bud growth and yield will be below average if a deficiency sets in during early to mid-flowering.
Seeded plants will have less well developed seeds.
Lack of vigor and overall lack of mold and pest resistance.

Potassium Deficiency
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This mineral is the third in the group of primary nutrients required in larger quantities by cannabis. Potassium should be available throughout the plants life cycle. It plays a part in regulating transpiration, the manufacture of starches, sugars and chlorophyll. Potassium is therefore important for the generation of energy within the plant and enhances plant and root growth. All complete fertilizers contain potassium. Kelp or seaweed extracts and composted soil such as worm castings is an excellent organic source. Wood ash contains high levels of potassium but due to the equally high calcium content it also raises the pH and should only be used on acidic soil.
Causes:
Poor soil quality.
Over-fertilization. Also here the same principles apply as with phosphorus.


Symptoms:
A potassium deficiency sometimes resembles lack of nitrogen in the first stages of leaf deterioration. But the difference is that the leaves also develop rust-colored spots. Eventually the affected leaves wilt and drop.
The leaf tips on healthy leaves may turn brown and resemble the symptoms of over-fertilization. This is due to a disruption in transpiration (since potassium regulates the opening and closing of the stomata on the leaf surface, where water evaporates from the plant and gases such as CO2 are drawn in).
In severe cases the stems become brittle.
A deficiency is more common in older plants and therefore the flowering phase will be negatively affected. You can expect low yields.

Magnesium Deficiency
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Magnesium is the fourth most important nutrient and used in larger amounts by cannabis plants. It is also one of the more common deficiencies indoors, due to several factors that can occur which inhibit the uptake or availability of Magnesium. Growers can act preventively by adding dolomite lime to the soil mix or watering/spraying their plants with a solution of Epsom salts. If you have vigorous plants and quality horticultural grade soil with a good pH value (6.0-7.0), then it is unlikely that you will get any Magnesium deficiency in your plants. Also hydroponic setup's seldom experience Mg deficiency since complete NPK fertilizers offer a sufficient supply of this mineral.





Causes:
Acidic soil (pH 5.0-5.8).
Cold and water-logged/soggy soil.
Over-fertilization (nutrient blockage especially from high amounts of nitrate, potassium, and calcium).
"Hard" water with high calcium content can bind Magnesium in the soil (mix your tap water with osmosis water).
Symptoms:
First indications resemble nitrogen deficiency: the lower to middle leaves yellow between the veins until the entire leaves are eventually yellow.
Rusty spots appear dotted throughout the leaves which distinguishes Mg deficiency from lack of nitrogen.
The leaf edges appear necrotic and curl up.
Some leaves develop a whitish tinge.
Symptoms spread throughout the plant by chronic deficiency.

Over-fertilization
Over-fertilization is a very common phenomenon in cannabis gardens and the #1 bud killer. We see more damage to flowering and yield through overfeeding than through any other gardening error. One of the main reasons is that the recommended dosages on fertilizers are way too high for the normal uptake of plants. Also growers fail to judge what the true plant requirements are during the grow and can be overzealous in wanting to make their plants grow bigger or better. Most people have fallen prey to the marketing of the agrochemical industry and believe that they need a cupboard full of bottles to grow successfully. The problem is enhanced by the low quality of cannabis genetics on the commercial market as many strains are too weak to grow vigorously by themselves and conditioned to respond to artificial feeding.
Generally speaking it is important to provide your Mandala seedlings/clones with good quality soil and a sufficient container size. This basically takes care of most or all of the nutrient requirements throughout the first 4+ weeks of growth. After this period you should start 12/12 and then repot your females into fresh soil. Bigger containers must be provided if you extend the vegetative time (to raise mother plants for example).
Plants with good genetics are also not dependent on being "force fed". They develop a good root system and take care of their own needs, as long as they can find what they are looking for in the substrate. Mandala strains belong to this category since they have hybrid vigour and develop very strong shoots, leaves, and root growth. All Mandala strains can be grown indoor without fertilizing (or just minimal feedings) from start to finish if you provide good soil and the correct container size. Fertilize only if you cannot repot on time into fresh soil, if you notice slight deficiency (usually mild nitrogen deficiency shows up after several weeks growth) and need to top up nutrients, or have run into more visible deficiency problems. Large mother plants usually require moderate periodic feedings.
Non-Mandala plants with poor genetics (ie. from too much inbreeding, etc.) will be difficult to handle either way and are finicky: some require higher levels of feeding in hydroponics because they are so inefficient in nutrient uptake; others develop a salt buildup very quickly because they are underdeveloped, weak, and cannot support fast growth.
Check the EC levels of your nutrient solution first and remember that regardless of what is written on the packaging – never feed your plants with more than EC 0.6-0.8 mS/cm (indoor) to 1.0-1.2 mS/cm (outdoor) on soil! This way you will always be on the safe side. For hydroponics consider using lower EC levels (1.0-1.6 mS/cm) and flushing less, instead of heroic dosages that always push the plants to the edge. This is not only more environmentally friendly, healthier, but also means less stress and maintenance problems.
Wait until your plants show slight deficiency symptoms like lack of leaf luster or a slight yellowing of the lowest leaves. There is no point in fertilizing a healthy plant that is lush and green. Why interfere in what nature does best?
When you fertilize give the plants time to assimilate the nutrients and use them for growth. Don't feed them every day or several times a week. Usually it takes 6-8 days for cannabis plants to fully show the effect of the fertilization if they are growing on soil. After this period of time you can make an assessment if they require a bit more or not. Cannabis grows best if it is fertilized in small portions rather than receiving a big dosage all at once.
(Note: all EC levels indicated are from the Hanna Sharp EC meter and measured in milliSiemens)
Causes:
  • Planting young or flowering plants into a soil mix with high levels of nitrogen.
  • Failing to check the EC level of your nutrient solution in soil cultivation. If you don't check the EC level you have no idea how high the salt concentration is that you are feeding. The EC is also influenced to a large extent by the quality of your tap water. It makes a big difference if you have tap water with an EC of 0.4 or 0.8 mS/cm. Depending on the water you therefore have to adjust the dosage of the fertilizer, so that the nutrient solution does not exceed a certain max. EC level. If the water quality is poor then you should use a household osmosis unit and mix the osmosis water approx. 50/50 with your regular water to reach a low EC starting level.
  • Using the full recommended dosage of manufacturers instead of a minimal dosage to test plant response, and to see how many nutrients are really required for healthy growth.
  • Fertilizing too often, such as weekly or even more frequently, which causes a build up of salts in the soil. Also the amount you water influences how many salts the substrate/soil soaks up. Never feed your plants on dry soil.
  • Starting the feeding cycle too early for young plants, or feeding your plants although they show no signs of lacking any essential nutrients.
  • Not topping off your hydroponic reservoir with fresh water when required.
  • Working with high EC levels in hydroponics to force growth/flowering, instead of using low to mid-range EC levels and flushing less.
  • Using the wrong pH/EC value of your water/nutrient solution which can block the uptake of mineral salts – thereby causing a reverse osmotic effect in the substrate. The high levels of salt pull water out of the root system of your plants. This is why over-fertilization dries up your plants.
Symptoms:
The symptoms are quite diverse and many are often mistaken as a nutrient deficiency! This is due to a lack of gardening experience on the part of the grower, and also due to misguided information in some internet sites where uneducated tips abound.
In many cases over-fertilization is particularly caused by an excess of nitrogen. During the growth and pre-floral phase nitrogen toxicity is quite common. Growers tend to water with a complete fertilizer recommended for this phase and these products all contain a medium to high levels of nitrogen. Nitrogen toxicity begins to show through excessive stem elongation and soft tissue. The plants may appear healthy with lush growth until the negative effects start to set in. In flowering plants it can slow down flowering or even bring it to a standstill. Flowering plants may rejuvenate. Most develop leafy buds and an unusually high amount of secondary shoots (depends on cannabis variety) if nitrogen levels are too high during the pre-flowering. The more advanced stages of excess nitrogen are accompanied by necrosis on many leaves. First the leaf tips burn and dry up. Rusty brown spots appear between the veins and eventually the entire leaf turns brown and falls off.
  • Bud development is halted and pistils die off suddenly as if they were pollinated.
  • Leaf edges curl up (similar to when plants have a "heat stroke") due to a disruption in their transpiration which cools down the leaf surface. This symptom is especially pronounced in the upper part of the plant close to the light source.
  • Leaves discolor and quickly drop off. Some may yellow and wilt beforehand.
  • Diverse symptoms appear all at once signaling a multi-nutrient blockage - mainly due to excess salts from macro nutrients (nitrogen, phosphate and potassium).
  • Poor root development and stunted growth.
  • Plants become susceptible to mold due to a weakened immune system and bloated cell tissue that retains more water (especially with excess of nitrogen). High EC levels are one of the most common causes for Botrytis or grey mold.
  • Wilting of seedlings, freshly rooted clones, or young plants. Symptoms resemble lack of watering.
  • High male ratio or appearance of male flowers on female plants.
  • Bud mold (Botrytis) on flowering plants.
For photos and more details consult our FERTLIZING SMART GUIDE.

Multi-Nutrient Blockage
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In this photograph you can see the diverse symptoms of a multi-nutrient blockage. It arises when excess salts in the substrate bind secondary nutrients such as magnesium, iron, zinc, manganese, calcium, manganese and copper. Usually over-fertilizing with potassium and phosphorus, present in high amounts in fertilizers used for blooming such as the potent 13-14 PK products, causes such a nutrient blockage. The leaves develop a checkered appearance of yellow, brown, and white spots with necrotic edges and sometimes also inter-veinal chlorosis (yellowing). Sometimes weak plants or poor genetics are partly to blame.
Symptoms can spread throughout the plant stunting growth and bud development. In such cases the substrate should be flushed thoroughly. Monitor the EC value of the excess water leaching out of the substrate. Continue flushing until it reaches an acceptable level. In soil this is always a difficult situation since you don't want to complicate matters by water-logging the soil. Flowering plants in the advanced stages of bud development may develop mold if they stand too long in soggy soil. If harvest is near you should simply stop fertilizing and live with the results. Young plants can be flushed more easily and you can also plant them in fresh soil and larger pots to let them recuperate naturally.

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Water and pH

The pH is the measure of the acidity or alkalinity of a solution or substrate. A low pH shows that the solution is acidic and a high pH that it is base/alkaline. The middle value of approx. pH 6.8 is the neutral range. The pH is absolutely vital for all living organisms in various ways.
In the world of plants each plant species is perfectly adapted to a certain pH range of the soil or water. Hobby gardeners are usually familiar with the different pH requirements of various plants like rhododendron, roses, or conifers, and buy special soil mixes and regulate the pH of water appropriately.

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Cannabis requires a pH range around the neutral value of 6.0-6.5 so that it can assimilate nutrients from the growing medium. In any cultivation the pH of the water must therefore be monitored and adjusted appropriately. A full point difference in pH represents a tenfold increase in either acidity or alkalinity. If you water on soil with pH 5.5 it is 10 times more acidic than pH 6.5! A pH below 6.0 can trigger a deficiency of calcium resulting in burnt root tips and black spots on leaves. A pH above 7.0 causes a deficiency in iron which results in chlorotic leaves and yellowing of veins. The assimilation of all major & secondary nutrients required by cannabis for healthy growth and flowering can be seriously affected by an incorrect pH. Most affected are phosphorous, potassium, magnesium, calcium, iron, and manganese. Read our Nutrient Problems Guide for more info on symptoms.

Photo: this is a standard colour chart for a liquid pH tester. The optimum pH range of water for cannabis cultivation in soil is a light green colour that indicates pH 6.2-6.5


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Photo: electronic pH testers range from inexpensive, such as this model, to high-end. They are handy but can be less reliable than a liquid tester because you have to calibrate them regularly. For calibration you need to purchase calibration fluid for pH 4 and pH 7 and a simple thermostat.








Step 1

Purchase your essential gardening kit.
SOIL: pH tester, EC meter, bottle of cheap vinegar (6° acidity), measurement cup for 10-100 ml
HYDROPONICS: pH tester, EC meter, bottle of cheap vinegar or pH UP & DOWN, measurement cup for 10-100 ml



Step 2
Test the quality of your water by checking the pH and EC range. Take into account any unusual colour or smell of the water. Make a chemical analysis at a pharmacy if you think your well water or tap water is heavily contaminated.

Step 3
Take appropriate action if the water quality is low: a high EC or very low/high pH are indicators (i.e. pH below 6 or above 8). A household osmosis filter is the cheapest long-term solution to improving water quality if you have no other clean water source.

Step 4
SOIL

Measure the volume of vinegar* required for a fixed amount of water to adjust the pH down to 6.2-6.5. Add the required amount of vinegar each time you need to water and check the pH before watering.
If the water is too acidic (i.e. below pH 6.0) you should mix or replace it with another water source that has a higher pH. This could be bottled mineral water or rain water.
If you are using tap water let it sit in a bucket for a few hours so that the chlorine evaporates.

*Vinegar is a neutral acid that is completely harmless to plants when diluted in water. It should be used to adjust the pH of the water for soil cultivation to prevent overfertilizing of plants. The commercial pH DOWN products all contain potent nitric or phosphoric acid that raise the salt level in soil and can burn your plants. Especially seedlings and young plants easily suffer from regular watering with pH Down.

HYDROPONICS
Add the required nutrients to your water until you have the appropriate EC (nutrient concentration) for your plants.
Measure the pH of the nutrient solution.
If the pH is still too high add vinegar
* or pH DOWN until the solution has the correct pH.
If the pH is too low add pH UP until the solution has the correct pH.
When you are using tap water let it sit in a container for a few hours so that the chlorine evaporates.

*Vinegar is a neutral acid that is completely harmless to plants when diluted in water. It can be used for Hydrofarms with hydro correls and on rockwool. Not all growing mediums may be suitable...run a test if you are using coco coir or other substrates.

Step 5
Regularly check the pH and EC of your water if you are using tap water because there are sometimes larger fluctuations in water quality from municipal companies.


Avoiding Misdiagnosis


“Incorrect pH belongs to the most serious nutrient disorders in organic-soil gardens. Many complex biological processes occur between organic fertilizers and the soil during nutrient uptake. The pH is critical to the livelihood of these activities.” (Marijuana Horticulture, Jorge Cervantes)
Many plant problems that are attributed by the grower to lack of fertilizer or poor genetics are in actual fact caused by the wrong pH of the growing medium or water (most often of water).

Failure to adjust the pH to the desirable range will result in several negative symptoms, that will range from mild to chronic, depending on the severity and duration of the pH imbalance:
  • single nutrient deficiency or multiple nutrient deficiencies causing any of the following: stunted growth, yellowing, dark blotches on leaves, small dark-blue leaves, contorted shoots, shriveled growth, leaf curl or burn, leaf drop, delayed flowering, low yield, etc.
  • higher ratio of males during sexing
  • appearance of male flowers on females
  • vulnerability to mold and fungus
  • vulnerability to pests
Fertilizing a plant that is suffering from a pH imbalance usually increases the cycle of problems. It may show a brief respite to symptoms, but only because the fertilizer added to the water may have changed the pH favourably for a short time. Without paying attention to the actual problem and adjusting the pH to the correct range your plants will continue to suffer and you will lose yield on a daily basis.


Hydroponics


Due to the constant availability of nutrients in a solvent form in hydroponics there is a greater range of tolerance in pH fluctuation. Cannabis grows well hydroponically within a range of 5.5-6.5. Usually the pH is regulated to 5.8-6.0 for hydroponic systems with a growing medium that has been stabilized.

The ideal pH and pH fluctuation in hydroponics depends on several factors that you have to evaluate on an individual basis because each hydroponic system is different due to the following:
  • water quality
  • growing medium (coco coir, rockwool, hydro correls, mixture of several mediums, other substrates, or mainly pure water such as aero-flow and bubbler)
  • nutrient products used and their buffer capacity
  • additional products or buffer agents used
  • type of watering system & watering schedule
  • EC of nutrient solution
  • size of nutrient solution tank or plant container
  • room temperature
  • size of plants and their nutrient uptake
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All of these factors influence how the pH should be adjusted and how it changes in the containers or tank over a period of time. A fluctuation of one full point in hydroponics can usually be tolerated by cannabis as long as the pH is stabilized to the ideal range within 24 hrs. For best results the pH should therefore be monitored daily in a system with large fluctuation.
Ideally your water quality should be good enough so that no or only minimal adjustment to the pH is required for a fresh nutrient solution.
Purchasing the correct fertilizer for your water quality helps in stabilizing the pH in your system. Several companies offer hydroponic fertilizer for either "hard" or "soft" water.

Photo: a standard pH kit for hydroponics includes a liquid pH tester, pH UP (potassium) and pH DOWN (nitric or phosphoric acid) for adjusting the pH range. Alternatively, vinegar can be used on some growing mediums to reduce pH if mineral salts are undesirable due to their effect on the EC of the nutrient solution.


Water quality

Tap water and well water are two main sources that need to be checked for quality. Both can be contaminated with toxic levels of minerals. High levels of sodium (Na) are often found in well water and can cause excessive damage to plants. Saline water on the whole must be avoided.

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Photo: yellowing, leaf curl, circular burnt spots on leaves, and leaf drop are typical symptoms from water with a high level of sodium.
Tap water can be “hard” from high levels of calcium (Ca) and magnesium (Mg). The pH is in this case very alkaline. Chlorine is another common additive which causes stunted growth in plants and acidifies the soil. If your tap water smells from chlorine you should fill warm water into a bucket and let it sit for a few hours so that the chlorine can evaporate.




For a general assessment of your water quality test the pH and EC range with your essential kit. Also look at the colour of the water and if it has any strong smell. If you notice anything out of the ordinary you can give a 1L sample to the pharmacy for a chemical analysis. The pharmacy sells sterile bottles for this purpose. The analysis usually costs 50-60$/Euro and provides details of common harmful contaminants. This is especially recommended for testing well water. It helps to say that you need an analysis for drinking use and watering plants so that specific contaminants are tested for. If you need to install an osmosis filter for heavily polluted water you will need this analysis to purchase the correct osmosis system and filters.
Your municipal water board can provide a free chemical analysis of the tap water in your neighbourhood if you request it because they regularly perform these tests as a standard procedure. Usually this is not necessary for you to look into unless the water is very poor quality or running through old pipes that pose a health hazard.

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Photo: a typical household osmosis filter can be attached to any water faucet in your home or garden. The best buy is a 3-chamber system which contains three filters that can be replaced at relatively low cost.
Usually a household osmosis filter is sufficient to clean water from common impurities such as calcium, magnesium, and low levels of salts. The cost of 100,-$/Euro is worth the investment and cheaper than buying bottled mineral water. An osmosis filter system can last a lifetime and you only need to exchange the filters every once in a while. An osmosis filter is essential if your water has a high EC . Generally an EC above 0.7 mS/cm (or 700 µS/cm) is problematic, especially if you need to fertilize indoor or have a hydroponic system. Mixing your water approx. 50-50 with pure osmosis water solves this problem.

For germination and seedlings you should always use high quality water: “soft” mineral water with pH 6.5 and low levels of sodium is best. The pH should be adjusted to the ideal range with vinegar so that there are no salts which can inhibit germination or damage the seedlings. In hydroponics a very weak nutrient solution of EC 0.6 mS/cm (or 600 µS/cm) is usually used. For germination pure water is also sufficient until the seedling appears.

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UPDATE

Blue mammoth in DWC -- DAY 11

PH 5.9

EC 1.3

Did a res change yesterday due to the red slime that built up over the last few days since the last one.In the 14ltr bucket went...

5ml cal/mg (1st!)
25ml Cannazym
6oml Canna rhizotonic
18ml (+/_ 1/2ml) Formulex

Ok ,i probably paniced a bit and the slime was not that bad .... should have waited a while longer for the feedback that i got just after the change lol.Anyway,it's done & she seems quite happy in there at the momment .I maybe should have lowered the ec to 1.2 like Kush said but got a bit sloppy adding the formulex at the end there & got 1.3(660ppm)again ... havn't spotted ANY sign of unhappieness,burn,wilt ect so will see how it goes ?.

I had a good clean ect ,selected a load of small pebbles to top the net pot right up,cut a bit of reflective sheet to block light at the edge of the netpot but not channel all the air from the res airpump directly onto the girl !... cheers guys :buds:This was about 12 hrs ago now & its late here !,so i will add 1 more drop of down + same again in the morning to get 5.7 & check again when back from wk tomorrow .

Res change due again in 3/4 days now .She will be 2weeks old then..... :bong:what do yall recon ??... i could check on Seymours TD - SR grows i guess (but i've read them 5 times now & should know by now)!!!!..... I was thinking ,like Kush said drop rhizo too 1/2 strenth or maybe even 1/4(1ml/ltr)- 5ml cal/mg again - Aqua veg A+B upto 1.3-1.4 ???. Any input ,awesome as usual & will post some pics asap Group smoke-out


White dwarfs in airpots day 25 (6ltr pot)

ph -through the fkn roof !

ec - ??????????????

mmmmm ,not looking happy & hungry again i think ,but ph is crazy so gave a mega flush with ph 4.5 ammended water today... i say mega but only about 6-7 ltrs each(should i be using more??) .Will let this dry before giving a decent feed again & hopefully will have the nutes they want by then ..if not more formulex for now but full strenth i guess ?.They showed sex a few days ago so will put them onto bloom when it gets here.Wonder if can use any other hydro stuff maybe next feed ?? carboload? nah prob not ... overdrive maybe ?? lol .hopefully some jungle juice will be here soon !.

I guess these are doing better than ive done upto now but im not expecting much if anything lol.. a learning curve with a few grams maybe :dance:so please critisise or throw in basic pointers with the soil thing here !Thank You:smokebuds:


Blue mammoth in airpot (10lt) day 11

she also got the flush today !... i should have checked the PH of the runoff before i did this but know it will be high so did the flush & will give her her 1st proper light feed once this drys out ???.nowhere near as big as her sis in DWC but cant tell if thats the DWC going well or the soil not so well?.probably the latter!.Her 1st leaves look like they may not be very happy ?.slightly shrunken & shriveled up & a tiny bit lighter green ???.hope the flush & a feed ina few days helps & will check the runoff ph ect then :thumbs: any comments ,advice or a plain minus rep for sloppy methods ect all greatfully recived !.Thank You

Afew pics on the way with a better pic update tomorrow after work.good night AFNBig Hug
 
Caught up on your thread just now.Sounds like the ph of the compost in your WD pots must be super high if your flushing with 4.5 ph water. Have you checked runoff right after flushing?You really should give it a check when you flush and not wait a couple days.Whenever i've had to flush i use 3 times the volume of the pot in water-so your pots are 6 liter=18 liter flush. Right after flushing i always gave a light feed as your washing all the nutes out of the soil when u flush and they got nothing left to eat.If the ph goes crazy again after the flushing you've done you could try powdered dolomite lime to raise ph or garden sulphur to lower ph of your soil.Thats just my 2 pennies worth. Overdrive is usually used for the last 2 weeks of flowering in hydro or soiless grows.
 
Next change drop Rhizo down to half strength & roll with that... Well into flower anyway...

Drop the zym completely if you don't need it don't use it..

Up your Sensi cal to 6ml...

Start on your proper veg nutes.. Canna aqua... I'd start at around 1.0-1.1 EC.. Remember formulex is baby food so 1.3 EC of that is not as strong as 1.3 of canna aqua... So start lower & build her up... Keep a eye for tip burn... Once (or if) you see tip burn you know you've reached her limit so then dilute by .1 EC (swap out a L of nutes for a L of plain pH'd water) & monitor.. Don't be afraid to push to to the burn but as soon as it shows... Pull back... Ok.

Check your EC & pH frequently..

Hope this helps some Vira..

Kush.

P.S. what size air pump you using bro... I hope it's not those shite things that come with the ikon oxypots?? :group:
 
Caught up on your thread just now.Sounds like the ph of the compost in your WD pots must be super high if your flushing with 4.5 ph water. Have you checked runoff right after flushing?You really should give it a check when you flush and not wait a couple days.Whenever i've had to flush i use 3 times the volume of the pot in water-so your pots are 6 liter=18 liter flush. Right after flushing i always gave a light feed as your washing all the nutes out of the soil when u flush and they got nothing left to eat.If the ph goes crazy again after the flushing you've done you could try powdered dolomite lime to raise ph or garden sulphur to lower ph of your soil.Thats just my 2 pennies worth. Overdrive is usually used for the last 2 weeks of flowering in hydro or soiless grows.

Hi Phoenix,good to see ya man,thanks for post .... should i flush again but check the first bit & last bit of runoff this time or give a light feed untill i get 10% runoff & check that ? they only got about 6ltrs each yesterday

Good luck with all those sprouts you got goin on bud !:peace:
 
Next change drop Rhizo down to half strength & roll with that... Well into flower anyway...

Drop the zym completely if you don't need it don't use it..

Up your Sensi cal to 6ml...

Start on your proper veg nutes.. Canna aqua... I'd start at around 1.0-1.1 EC.. Remember formulex is baby food so 1.3 EC of that is not as strong as 1.3 of canna aqua... So start lower & build her up... Keep a eye for tip burn... Once (or if) you see tip burn you know you've reached her limit so then dilute by .1 EC (swap out a L of nutes for a L of plain pH'd water) & monitor.. Don't be afraid to push to to the burn but as soon as it shows... Pull back... Ok.

Check your EC & pH frequently..

Hope this helps some Vira..

Kush.

P.S. what size air pump you using bro... I hope it's not those shite things that come with the ikon oxypots?? :group:

Hey Kush Thanks again bro :perfect:week 3 sorted !

6ml cal/mg
30ml rhizo
up EC-1.1-1.2 with Aqua vega A+B

Not seen any sign of tip burn yet mate ....but ,could just be me sketchin here but not much growth in the last 12hrs ,not quite as perky as normal & her leaves have a slight twist goin on (could be the blue & white LED side lighting )??...proper check ph/ec ect now(after i post this) & prob add a L of water 5.6.

will take some pics now as well ,roots n all as i passed out last night before uploading ha.

pic update on way.... have you got any recent ones of the mazar Kush ?.She on day 14 now? been waiting for some to compare lol:group::peace:
 
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