Indoor 620w cfl multi chamber perpetual harvest grow journal ~£2 a day for 2 gram a day

Joined
Apr 3, 2015
Messages
142
Reputation
0
Reaction score
96
Points
0
Hi, welcome to my grow log.

i have recieved a bit of advice from here and other forums & thought now im more confident and up and running i would keep a log.

This is done in a tiny spare bedroom that is also my smoke room and chill out room. these are the grow chambers...

Gv0oBVk.jpg


basically i have the three cabinets now and when its all running smoothly should be cropping 2 plants every 3.5 weeks or 3 plants every 5 weeks. my target is to produce a 2 gram a day for £2 a day in costs. given my first 2 grows using the smaller two cabinets this should be just about possible but i dont expect much more.

A note about my grow room, and set up, i do not use carbon filter odor control. i grow in a tiny spare bedroom that is also my smoke and chill out room. It has one external wall with a window which has blinds up and is then blacked out out behind the blinds, then has curtains. I put a lot of air fresheners in the gaps between the blinds and curtains. I also have a small ionizer running 24/7. outside the spare room i have two automatic air fresheners pointing at the grow room door and off down the stairs, i then have another of these inside the front door. growing 2-3 small plants this seems fine and i rarely smell weed outside the spare bedroom unless i have forgotten to close the door. mostly the whole house just smells of air freshener except the grow room when they are in full bloom.
A note about heat. with all these bulbs running in this tiny room there is no need for heating in winter, the whole room heats up to over 20deg c and now we are in summer its more like 30deg c and will get hotter. ideally i would put a vent in the door with a carbon filter to draw out the heat and remove the smell but im renting to blergh.

now the cabinets

The small one on top is my vege chamber, it has 3 x 45w blue bulbs in it (~3000lm each £6 each off ebay) and 2 4" u usb desk fans (£10 each off amazon). i can vege 3 plants in here in 5lt pots for about 4 weeks with some LST. the size is 60x60x40cm. i used silicone to stick the mylar to the sides with mylar tape around the edges to secure it. there is some bubbling but it seems fine. with all three bulbs running and the two fans i find it best to leave the front of the cabinet open. the temp in the spare bedroom is about 25deg C and the cabinet is just a couple of degree above that. I do close the front with a makeshift reflector at night when its cooler just to keep a little more light in.

UPLzb27.jpg


the chamber below it is divided into two. both are pretty much the same, 80x40x40cm. each has 2x45w red cfl (~2900 lm each £12 ebay) in the top and a side light. one side light is 23w (~1500 lm) the other 33w (2300 lm) both red cfl, they both come from b&q and were £5 and £10 respectively. i use clip on bayonet light fittings i got off ebay for £2.50 each. they are screwed in at the top of the cabinets, but the side lights are just clipped on and can be moved up and down. just having the side lights made a massive difference to my second grow, and the fantasmo i have in now just would not have flowered well without it becuase its a leggy sativa, without the side light lower down the bulbs in the top wouldnt have the power to reach the lower leaves and bud sites and they wouldnt be developing as well as they are. these two cubicals have one 4" desk fan each blowing across the tip of the plants and out through a 2" crack i leave in the door. they run at about 28-30 deg c which does drop with the door open

8K6RIOP.jpg


YagTWe8.jpg


the third chamber i just got. its a £10 tent wardrobe i got from poundstretcher, and i have a 250w cfl left over from a few years ago. i again used the same type of fan. i am planning to use this bulb for a few months whilst its still good, and then to switch to 2 x 90w LED and 2 x 45w cfl side lights which i think will provide better coverage and produce bigger plants.

4bjazIj.jpg


now the running costs,

621w for 20 hours a day ~12.5kwh per day @ 16 pence per KWH = £1.99 per day. Off my last 2 easyryder which didnt use the tent i got about 2.4 ounce which at a gram a day works out at 68 days of smoke which is brilliant because i will be cropping every 25 days to 5 weeks depending on how i run it. so there is room for error + i will have too much.

as for the quality of the bud, i have only used joint doctor seeds. iv done easy ryder, diesel ryder, and chronic ryder. they have all had a lot of THC on and all tasted quite nice and been reasonably strong although they all taste a little generic. in terms of taste the diesel ryder was far better, a bit sweeter and more distinctive. i do have a problem getting big dence buds. i am not sure if this is strain choice or lack of light or poor feeding on my part.


And the plants i have in at the moment.... well these photos were taken 4 days ago...

Ogre, joint Dr. this one has gone a bit wrong but after a flush and feed 4 days ago the new growth looks ok, ish, sort of, and its still drinking a hell of a lot. it was high stress trained for a bit too long and repotted into a 12lt pot a little too late. live and learn. dont have an exact age, about 6-7 weeks i expect.
nla5Wo4.jpg



the smaller one is a kush van stitch, flash seeds i think, and the larger is mephisto fantasmo. both about 7-8 week old. both in 5lt pots. all plants in biobiz all mix with a combination of the following feeds. root stimulator, biogrow, biobloom, dutch pro bloom, shooting powder, magnacal, topmax , and a little baby bio. ph~6.5.
wVwbKWp.jpg


i will be planting 3 more tomorrow, i have left it a little late due to unforseen circumstances, but i will plant 2 kush van stitch, as its done very fast, 55-65 days, and i will need a smoke, and probably a joint dr purple ryder


right, i think thats everything for now.
im hoping to post photo updates once a week but am happy to answer questions or take critisism.
im hoping to keep this thread alive for 6-12 months so there will be a lot of different strains and grows in here by the end.
hope it becomes a useful resource

happy growing everyone.
 
Last edited:
not much has changed really. nothing spectacular this time.

just planted 3 new beans. 2 x Kush Van Stitch (Flash) and 1 x Purpleryder (Joint Doctor).

The two Kush are in 3 and 5 liter pots, the Purple a 6.5lt. They are in Biobiz all mix, and whilst i was going to pre-flush as its a bit hot i decided not to as i would wash all the beneficial things out of the soil. i am going to order some lite-mix online for next time. although the delivery cost is high, its still a small price to pay compared to electric costs so i will make that change when i run out of all-mix.

All i did was put the soil straight from the bag into the pot, fluffed it up and broke up the lumps, then pushed it down and re-topped the pot back up. I then made a small ~7mm hole with my finger, put the bean in, and covered it up. I then sprinkled about 1/6 lt of water with root simulator slowly over the area where the seed was in each pot. I will keep doing that every 8 hours or so until they germ. When they sprout i will desist watering and apply more root simulator after a week or two. i don't use a humidity dome. i don't even monitor humidity. i expect the Kush to be done in 8-9 weeks from germ, the purple 10-11.


foucKS8.jpg



Y9o5kEK.jpg



MKU5azG.jpg


ok now the other ones.

i started flushing the Kush last week, just given plain water again. Most of the hairs are amber, but there are a few bits of new growth. The THC is still clear and cloudy with no amber at all. There is not much THC on it really. Iv tried to get some photos but its hard with phone cam.

utYWYyD.jpg


AN13Fyb.jpg


qrAuwTY.jpg


The Ogre still seems to be growing and drinking, i fed it the same as last week. 1/2 dose babybio, shooting powder, magnacal, and topmax. loosing a bit of lower growth at this rate but nothing major. I'm pretty sure that on top of the other problems this many nodes and bud sites was not a good idea under CFL. lol. live and learn.

XwaabTw.jpg


ki9wlR8.jpg


Mephisto Fantasmo is still swelling slowly, none of the hairs are orange yet, and none of the THC is amber. There is very very little THC, a bit disappointing. My first venture outside of the joint doctor has been very poor for THC for what ever reason. although the buds do appear to be dense and tight, which i have never had with the joint doctor so swings and roundabouts. oh, again fed the same as last time, 1/2 dose baby bio, dutch pro, topmax and magnacal.

nmGTGTf.jpg


qjNytYe.jpg




I am also looking for suggestions for seeds to try over the next few months. i have a few left, but i would like to try new strains. My criteria are..... must be done in 10 weeks from germ. must be short and stocky. must be able to grow under low watt cfl. i prefer an indica smoke. and i don't use carbon filters so cheese & diesel are out i'm afraid.

any input greatly appreciated.


one last family shot...

bNJrXuV.jpg

happy harvests :)
 
Salutations Dendrite007,

...2 gram a day for £2 a day...

Vaped or smoked?...

...i do not use carbon filter odor control. i grow in a tiny spare bedroom that is also my smoke and chill out room.

Do you keep an alternative ready in case of allergy-like symptoms? Are you allergy prone to begin with?... Etc.

I also have a small ionizer running 24/7.

That's something i wanted to evaluate under the form of an Oreck, the opportunity was never realized.

A note about heat. with all these bulbs running in this tiny room there is no need for heating in winter, the whole room heats up to over 20deg c and now we are in summer its more like 30deg c and will get hotter. ideally i would put a vent in the door with a carbon filter to draw out the heat and remove the smell but im renting to blergh.

I hope your roof doesn't look the way i imagine it would seem to an helicopter... Do you broadcast loud on the AM radio band?! Euh... Playing paranoïd.

Anyway, if you must can you compensate the heat using more ozone and possibly a fog nebulizer? For example...

I fear though if an infestation builds up it will progress like there's no tomorow! 23 °C seemed desirable to me, especially having spider mites around...

...i used silicone to stick the mylar to the sides with mylar tape around the edges to secure it. there is some bubbling but it seems fine. with all three bulbs running and the two fans i find it best to leave the front of the cabinet open. the temp in the spare bedroom is about 25deg C and the cabinet is just a couple of degree above that. I do close the front with a makeshift reflector at night when its cooler just to keep a little more light in.

Correct me if i'm wrong, i thought the mylar sheets are supposed to have their white mate side exposed instead.

Just curious! Good day, have fun!!

:peace:
 
hey mate

Salutations Dendrite007,



Vaped or smoked?...

just looking for 2g of dried bud, i only smoke about 1g a day so i should have some spare when iv learned a bit more.

Do you keep an alternative ready in case of allergy-like symptoms? Are you allergy prone to begin with?... Etc.

i have no alternative. i have grown photos before and its been fine.


That's something i wanted to evaluate under the form of an Oreck, the opportunity was never realized.

The ionizer is a cheap one i got from a budget store for £15. it does absolutely nothing to be honest. useless.

I hope your roof doesn't look the way i imagine it would seem to an helicopter... Do you broadcast loud on the AM radio band?! Euh... Playing paranoïd.

as for heat, one bedroom will always look warm from the helicopter yes. not really paranoid though. lol.

Anyway, if you must can you compensate the heat using more ozone and possibly a fog nebulizer? For example...

I fear though if an infestation builds up it will progress like there's no tomorow! 23 °C seemed desirable to me, especially having spider mites around...

Lower temperature would be better yes. i didnt reallise the cfl would put out so much heat when combined. the 9 small and 1 x 250w cfl produce a similar heat output to the 2x250w hps i used to run. i was expecting them to be cooler, but they arnt.

Correct me if i'm wrong, i thought the mylar sheets are supposed to have their white mate side exposed instead.

the mylar i had was shiny on both sides and looked the same, hard to tell, it was old stuff i salvaged from a previous grow and was all crumpled and a bit dirty from when i had been misting in the previous grow space, i just used the other side to be honest didnt think about this. ohh well


Just curious! Good day, have fun!!

:peace:


thanks for the interest,

have a good day
 
just in the interests of being complete i thought i would post up a couple of photos of the last 2 just before they were chopped. this is also what im smoking now. they are both joint dr easy ryder, they were started together under 90w red cfl, then after 4 weeks went into seperate chambers with 120w cfl each. 5lt pots. all mix soil. biogrow, shooting powder, dutch pro, magnacal

kTfPVs5.jpg


Khz6UeH.jpg


and i think this is the other one,

QmrfJfd.jpg


these photos were taken a few days before the chop.
 
48 hours later and one of the Kush has sprung to life...

htut7xY.jpg



also the kush i have in flower has just packed on a load more THC in the last couple of days, glad i didnt chop early.

CVm93yW.jpg

kAjbAuc.jpg
 
Grown in a 4.9lt pot. Bio-bizz all mix soil. First 1x45w blue, then 90w blue, then 113w red cfl. Had a mix of the following in various doses (usualy 1/2 @ ~ph 6.3-6.8: ATA root stim, Biogrow, baby-bio, magnacal, topmax, shooting powder, dutch pro bloom a and b, biobloom.

First point is on the website the seeds said 55-65 days, when the arrived the packet had two languages the Spanish said 55-65 days, the English said 65-75 days. . so blergh. I cropped somewhere between day 60 and 70, probably closer to the back end of that but its still not anywhere near ripe. I cropped because i need a smoke in a weeks time, and also because the plant had pretty much stopped drinking and i couldn't see anything really going on. It didn't even yellow off much after the flush two weeks ago so gave up on her really.

nothing really went wrong with this plant, she was a runt, took a long time to germ, then the husk got stuck on the seed head and i had to remove it. there was a little nute burn around week 3-5, then a nitrogen deficiency from week 6 towards the end, but it was within tolerance and didn't seem to effect development too much.

i expect about a 1/2 oz when dried which im pretty happy with in about 65 days. not much thc though, and like i said its not ripe in that time as u can see from the thc shots i took below.

smells pretty good, big hints of NYC diesel which is actually my fave taste when it comes to smoke so might be in for a pleasant surprise when dried.

buds look dencer than any of the joint dr seeds i have done before and for my first venture outside the joint dr i am quite happy. I have another of these just sprouted and might try to LST and get 4 top buds as this one doesnt look like a runt, .

here are the photos, ..

(o, she was 30cm tall from soil to tip with no LST.


OaH41wX.jpg



lowARaA.jpg



xjS1bvz.jpg



T8kx2yv.jpg



s0MiRTn.jpg



FUYJ4f4.jpg



E0DIeRt.jpg



QmJgSBY.jpg



i thought i would try hanging the bud this time to expediate things. its above the 250w cfl with the ogre underneath. dont know if this is a good way to do it as the plant will be giving off moisture during phtosynthsis. will just see how it works.

right, going to go through the old imgur photos and see if i can post a set of photo a week apart from germ to crop in comments just to round off this fine looking micro-plant.

happy harvests
 
so everything is going well despite temps staying at around 36 deg c in the boxs.

just an update on the Kush Van Stitch. Its quite a nice smooth mellow smoke, the buds are a bit more dense and a little less leafy than the joint dr strains i usually do. O, i have found one undeveloped seed pod so far. Never had that with a feminized auto before.


so i may as well start with the Kush (~day 15) i have in vege. Like the last one she appears to be a runt, but thats probably just how this strain grows, the leaves have stopped getting bigger.

J1rE8pw.jpg


f7nlyFN.jpg
(


I have put some mylar on top of the soil and placed a 40w blue cfl on it to try and get light into the lower nodes and get them growing before LST> it seems to be working, they are already starting to boom and i only put the bulb there 18 hours ago. This one is still just on root stim at full dose.

[Imgur]()


the purple ryder (~day 15) germed 12 hours later and is literally covering twice the area and is a little squatter. the leaves on this one seem to still be getting bigger which i think is a good sign. This one was just fed full dose root stim and 1/2 dose hydro silicon. its supposed to offer some heat protection and improve vege growth and N uptake so thought i would give it a try, never used it before.


U2XLBQi.jpg
)


yIfJ187.jpg


on to the fantasmo. she is now about day 70 and i have started flushing now and will be cropping in a week or two. its hard to tell how far gone she is as there is so little THC i cant really use the trichs, the pods within the buds don't look full size yet though so there is some time to go.


cnRNuMv.jpg



5ATQD7B.jpg



KON4JYq.jpg




ogre still not fattening up. still being fed 2/3 dose baby bio, 1/2 dose dutch pro bloom, 1/2 dose magnacal, 1/2 dose topmax. i have no symptom progression for a number of weeks now so will keep feeding this and see what happens, but shes now 8 weeks old and its only a ten week strain so im pretty sure now she just isnt going to produce because iv pushed the plant too produce too many top cola in too short of a time. but still, it was an experiment, may as well see it though till the end.


Ggsnvgm.jpg



right, i think thats it,

happy growing.
 
Impressive. Looks like you have a nice rotation of plants going. Once you get your stash built up, you will be able to let the plants go longer if you need.
Good job.
 
Impressive. Looks like you have a nice rotation of plants going. Once you get your stash built up, you will be able to let the plants go longer if you need.
Good job.

cheers,
yeh still trying to optimize.
might try some longer strains in the future, see if i can get bigger yields, all the ones i have done have been between 65-75 day strains,
 
Back
Top