Indoor 600 watt LED-Soil-Auto Seeds Diesel Berry - Royal Queen Northern Lights

[CapnKrash]

Day 20:

DB-1 Started showing sex on the 16th day. Looks beautiful, very symmetrical plant. Has dark purple under the leaves, hope the buds are dark purple like that. Pic of the under-leaf included. Definite smell of berry in there with some other sour-ish tone.

DB-2 She's perking up, recovering from her damage. Undoubtedly stunted. Asymmetrical plant, but pretty leaves like DB-1. Showed Pre-flowers on day 17. Smells like someone poured diesel fuel straight on the plant. VERY strong smell to it already.

NL-1 Doing great, VERY bushy plant. Extremely dense inside. Still hasn't shown sex, its the only one now. Biggest plant in the room though. Smells earthy and hashy. Was the first to start smelling.

NL-2 Started showing sex at day 19. Has been suffering with a nutrient problem. Had it diagnosed on the Infirmary as phosphorous deficient. Has been flushed and fed today, should fix the problem. She's not really smelly, very mild hash/earthy skunky smell.

All were just given their second feeding of 1/4 strength nutes today

 

[biggie]

Hope that flush does the trick. Awesome progress!

 

[CapnKrash]

When I started my first attempt at growing I knew that it would be something I liked. Now I've been directly involved in a few of my friends grows since that failed grow. I thought it was such a cool thing seeing the plants grow and taking care of them.

I tell you though, I wasn't prepared for how much I would like doing it myself. Kinda like children, until I had my own, I had no idea what kind of joy they could bring me. This is definitely something I will be doing the rest of my life. I LOVE watching them grow, and comparing pics of daily changes and seeing how fast they grow. Seeing their little pistols appearing for the first time. Opening the door and being greeted by that wonderful smell. Not even all the way through my first solo grow and already gushing lol. I'll be on cloud 9 come harvest time.
Something amazing in growing a plant. Something magical in growing these plants

 

[biggie]

I find it to be therapeutic as well. I have much more appreciation for cannabis now. All from a tiny seed...a marvel indeed.

 

[CapnKrash]

Quick update

Day 24

NL 1 still hasn't flowered. Getting big fast
NL 2 looks terrible, but has shown growth as you can see the difference between day 21 and today in these two pics. Not sure if the problem is fixed, time will tell.
DB 1 beautiful as you can see
DB 2 definitely recovered from the damage, no sign of herm. Starting to pick up growth. It has one half of the plant with really small twisted up sites that look like they will never really get bigger than popcorn. The new growth is all strong and nice looking.

Training, 3 of these girls are showing pre-flowers. I find myself unsure if I can, or should train any of these girls. Is it too late for the ones with pistols?

 

[gantsa]

They look great dude! same growth rate like mine under a 400w mh

 

[CapnKrash]

Day 29:

Lots of changes!

we'll start with the damaged ones

DB-2 She's growing up well, has to be staked because the plant decided to switch from the central node, to one of the shoots. So now she's heavy on one side. I'm mostly leaving her to her own devices. She'll do what she does.

NL-2 She seems to have completely recovered from her spotting. There's some burned tips from nutes. Seems she's a bit touchy, no other plant has burn. Otherwise she's grown quite a bit and looks nice and healthy now.

DB-1 Beautiful plant. I love her! Throughout her entire life she's just looked great and healthy. So vibrant. Today I opened the closet and was kicked in the face with a VERY strong diesel smell. Pulled her out, and the smell just oozed all over the house. She has blue calyx's along the stem on the bottom. I really hope the color works its way up to all of them. Still stretching, has been tied down several times. If I didn't tie her down she'd be almost 3' now.

NL-1 Nice and bushy plant, pre-flowers just started today! She's much bushier than the others, I've tied down several sites, but it's so dense, there's no way to open the canopy until she starts her stretch.

Looks like she needs some N. Will be fed in a few days. BUT:

I have a question about feeding actually. I'm using Technaflora recipe for success kit, and it says to feed, water, water, feed to keep the salts from building up. Now I fed her last week, she had an explosion of growth, and now has slowed a little and showing N def. I watered, without nutes, because it was the second water in the fwwf schedule. Should I have just fed her anyhow? Or was I right in watering only, and waiting a few days to feed her?

 

[gantsa]

i havent heard of technaflora before. search for other users that had used those ferts and see what deficiences they had. I would stick with the company's food-water-water schedule and only raise dosages slowly to those they need something more. for example i would feed the hungry one like this: 1x food-0,4x food-water. check how they respond. if they get better continue
This plant that is bushier than the others is very possible to be more hungry. That one in the upper left corner also looks like is yellowing a bit. If you were giving too much N the leaves would be deep green and the top fun leaves would be stretched, pointing upwards. If your feeding schedule was a light one until now, then maybe they are hungry. In that case try to give them 1/3 stronger grow dose. And then watch if the def steps back. if so, then increase slowly
But are you sure it is a deficiency and not a nute lockout in the roots? If you were heavily feeding previous days, then could possibly be a lockout. In this case you should give only water. No flush (most times flush makes thing worse)

 

[CapnKrash]

i havent heard of technaflora before. search for other users that had used those ferts and see what deficiences they had. I would stick with the company's food-water-water schedule and only raise dosages slowly to those they need something more. for example i would feed the hungry one like this: 1x food-0,4x food-water. check how they respond. if they get better continue
This plant that is bushier than the others is very possible to be more hungry. That one in the upper left corner also looks like is yellowing a bit. If you were giving too much N the leaves would be deep green and the top fun leaves would be stretched, pointing upwards. If your feeding schedule was a light one until now, then maybe they are hungry. In that case try to give them 1/3 stronger grow dose. And then watch if the def steps back. if so, then increase slowly
But are you sure it is a deficiency and not a nute lockout in the roots? If you were heavily feeding previous days, then could possibly be a lockout. In this case you should give only water. No flush (most times flush makes thing worse)

I've been very light with feedings. This is technically my first solo grow, since my first one on here was ended early. And I've been very conservative with everything, trying not to hover, or over-mother. To the point of damaging them in the beginning because I didn't water enough (fear of over-watering), and of course when that happened it got too hot at the same time.

You can see it on the top right plant, she's DB-2. Most of the earlier pictures filenames are labeled, but I'll try to go back through and label them in the photos as well as from now on to make identification easier :smoking:

so they've only been fed twice so far, and both times 1/4 strength of recommended. The top left on was one that had some kind of deficiency, you can read about it Here she's the only one that has actually shown nutrient burn too, a lot of the new growth has burnt tips. Otherwise she's been stretching well.

I figured NL-1 was hungry, thus the def signs =) I was just reticent to feed again, since the manufacturer of my nutes says to feed/water/water/feed to avoid salt build up in soil. So she got only a watering yesterday. She should be thirsty again in a couple days, when I'll feed her.

side note, I fall to your guy's color diagnoses more than my own. I have color vision deficiency, and have a hard time distinguishing the greens. So if I'm not seeing something, please feel free to speak up!! Its actually enough so that my plants would disappear to me under the LED's if it wasn't for the shadows. A leaf pressed against white paper is invisible to me under the light lol. Its nothing like what you see in the pink pictures. Its kind of surreal to look through my camera lens.

updated for readability

 

[gantsa]

If you have only fed twice in 1/4 of recommended strength then the deficiencies you get are probably cause they are getting big and they are hungry for nutes and minerals. I gues NL-1 is that plant on bottom right. For this i'd say it needs to raise the Nitrogen or/and micro nutrients levels (the yellowing starts from the veins and spreads in an even pattern). The rest look ok and i would say to stick with your brand's schedule.

Regarding the one on top left and the burned spots you got in the begin of the grow, i see that the problem has stoped spreading to the younger leaves, so whatever was the cause, you are ok for now. From the photo you had in your previous post when she was young i think the cause of the problem had to do either with heat or with a some mineral deficiency. Those could be caused either by underwatering or with too much heat in the room. I think the heat you had in the begin caused fast evaporation of water that dried the exterior soil fast and burned some parts of the roots (many time heat stress or dry soil issues show up on the leaves like nute burns or by leaf edges witling upwards). I was also underwatering for some weeks when i first used fabric pots and took me half a grow to understand my mistake. Fabric pots are not like plastic pots (that you have to wait until the top inch of soil dries before you water). Heat and constant ventilation streams in the grow room, make the soil in the fabric pots to dry 3 times faster than plastics. Make sure the soil around the edges of the pot never dries completely. Specially in the first weeks that the root system is not strong yet.

im in day 20 with my autos, in a well ventilated room with heat around 26 C, the pots have around 10l of soil and under these conditions the plants drink every one /or one and a half days ->300-400ml of water.. How much ml do you water and every how many days? In any case, the best way to understand is too look the leaves. If you water too much, the leaves will start to curl.

Another tip is that when you want to feed, avoid giving the ferts directly on dry soil/roots. its much smoother for the roots to wet the soil a bit first, let the moisture spread, and after some time give the nutrient solution