Dinafem White Widow and Critical + 2.0 in 1 gal pots of Coco with Automated feeding and Airdomes.

[slowandeasy]

Why do you care about the waste of coco which is not that expensive to me anyway? Or you don't mean its a waste of cost/money, but it's just a waste maintaining and growing in more coco instead of less?

I thought the idea of this approach of small pots and air domes was all about a thirstier medium and faster uptake and therefore a really rapid growth. It was an experiment for you. Quote "The real reason the size difference is the Airdomes and small pots.". I kind of keyed in on that..

I have an autopot all ready to cut down and perforate. And I have two Critical 2.0 germinating right now. I"m thinking of doing a two pot autopot grow on one res with a regular sized autopot and a modified cutdown/perforated autopot with these two Crititcal's. In theory the smaller pot should reach the bottom of the pot faster and I'll have to get it on the res and air sooner than the big pot. And then from there it will be interesting to see how they both finish. If this is legit stuff, the smaller pot should be better.

I have done hundreds of plants in Coco. Anything over 2 gal of Coco is just unnecessary. Especially for Autos, the plants don't have enough time to o even fill the pots with roots. I am not necessarily concerned with the money of the Coco, but why use 4x the amount if the growth is faster with less? I am not a small time grower, so the savings is nice, but not the reason I do it.The small pots provides more Oxygen to the root zone vs larger pots. If you treat Coco like hydro, you will get hydro like Growth. Smaller pots, more frequent watering, and tons of air will speed up the growth by a lot vs larger pots that get fed less often... especially the first few weeks of the plants life. BTW, this is with 100% Coco. I can not comment on soil, perlite or other medium/mixes.

I will be showing some side by side of some strains with and without Airdomes. Check them out soon, I have Sour Cracks and 4 Assed Monkey plants going, will add pics in a day or 2. I want to stress something to anyone reading this. Small pots are not for everyone or every strain. Critical+ 2.0 is a big strain, it needs very frequent waterings to not dry out. Sour Crack is a super fast and small strain, it doesn't big pots. They dont drink as much, so the flood times are 1/2 the time. Feeding multiple times per day will increase your growth, if the Coco is not remaining too wet.

Big pots take way longer to properly flush, I have checked my run off thousands of times during flush.

 

[lunarman]

I have done hundreds of plants in Coco. Anything over 2 gal of Coco is just unnecessary. Especially for Autos, the plants don't have enough time to o even fill the pots with roots. I am not necessarily concerned with the money of the Coco, but why use 4x the amount if the growth is faster with less? I am not a small time grower, so the savings is nice, but not the reason I do it.The small pots provides more Oxygen to the root zone vs larger pots. If you treat Coco like hydro, you will get hydro like Growth. Smaller pots, more frequent watering, and tons of air will speed up the growth by a lot vs larger pots that get fed less often... especially the first few weeks of the plants life. BTW, this is with 100% Coco. I can not comment on soil, perlite or other medium/mixes.

I will be showing some side by side of some strains with and without Airdomes. Check them out soon, I have Sour Cracks and 4 Assed Monkey plants going, will add pics in a day or 2. I want to stress something to anyone reading this. Small pots are not for everyone or every strain. Critical+ 2.0 is a big strain, it needs very frequent waterings to not dry out. Sour Crack is a super fast and small strain, it doesn't big pots. They dont drink as much, so the flood times are 1/2 the time. Feeding multiple times per day will increase your growth, if the Coco is not remaining too wet.

Big pots take way longer to properly flush, I have checked my run off thousands of times during flush.

Great info man. I have 4 plants to my credit and 2 more vegging just so you know. And 4 more on the way once I get the beans and airdomes in. I see you stress there will be times when a lot of watering is necessary. I see that and I think autopots. I don't have to increase or decrease frequency manually right. They will wick and sip all they need on their own. That's why I bought in to autopots. Do you see any reason why this would not work if I purposely cut down autpots and go with 2 gallons and air and mimic what you do with the small pots and rapid growth? Will the aquavalve be able to keep up? Assuming there are no issues like a flood which you mentioned earlier. I know you don't like autopots or bottom feeding, but I don't have a choice right now.

 

[slowandeasy]

Great info man. I have 4 plants to my credit and 2 more vegging just so you know. And 4 more on the way once I get the beans and airdomes in. I see you stress there will be times when a lot of watering is necessary. I see that and I think autopots. I don't have to increase or decrease frequency manually right. They will wick and sip all they need on their own. That's why I bought in to autopots. Do you see any reason why this would not work if I purposely cut down autpots and go with 2 gallons and air and mimic what you do with the small pots and rapid growth? Will the aquavalve be able to keep up? Assuming there are no issues like a flood which you mentioned earlier. I know you don't like autopots or bottom feeding, but I don't have a choice right now.

They will keep up fine. I have 2gal pots for Autopots, I only used the 4gal ones once. The pots take up too much space, are too tall, and takes 3 weeks for roots to hit the bottom. I turn mine on in 7-10 days. The growth is then kicked in high gear immediately.

 

[lunarman]

They will keep up fine. I have 2gal pots for Autopots, I only used the 4gal ones once. The pots take up too much space, are too tall, and takes 3 weeks for roots to hit the bottom. I turn mine on in 7-10 days. The growth is then kicked in high gear immediately.

Kudo's slow.

Thoughts on perforating the stock autopots? I'm thinking a bunch of small 1/8 inch holes on all sides.

 

[slowandeasy]

Kudo's slow.

Thoughts on perforating the stock autopots? I'm thinking a bunch of small 1/8 inch holes on all sides.

It is up to you, it may make them dry out a little faster. Not sure it would make a huge difference. Let me know what you decide to do. Slow

 

[KonopCh]

You should make side by side with 2 and 4 gallon pots. And of course not a small plant, like Sour crack.

Small pots = more oxygen? Not really, I can fed them just like you the first 20 days. Better airpump = more oxygen.

 

[lunarman]

I cut and perf'd an autopot today. And I have a couple of Critical 2.0's about to pop their tap root. Both will be treated as exactly the same as I can and we'll see what happens. Same res, same air, same lighting. Only difference is the pot size and the perf's

 

[slowandeasy]

You should make side by side with 2 and 4 gallon pots. And of course not a small plant, like Sour crack.

Small pots = more oxygen? Not really, I can fed them just like you the first 20 days. Better airpump = more oxygen.

Actually it is a fact that the smaller the pot, the more air will be provided...no matter what size pump you have. I have a 792gph pump, that is plenty . And I have done plenty of side by sides. Have look at my Autopot vs DWC thread. I used a big pot vs a 5 gal DWC. 3BOG, they both got big, but the DWC killed it. What slowed the Coco plant down was the unnecessary amount of Coco.

You obviously like Autopots. What medium do you use? I only use 100% Coco, which makes a difference on pot size needs. These plants are massive, I will be removing my other plants I'm the back to make more space for them. They are in a 6 1/2ft x 6 1/2 ft tent. And 6 plants in 1gal pots totally consume it.

I know 6 Autopots could fill the tent too. But it would grow slower, take 4x the Coco and take longer to flush. And Sour Crack is a perfect strain to test. I have grown dozens of them. With/Without Autopots. With/Without Air. Anyone who uses 4 gal of Coco to grow a Sour Crack, is wasting a lot of medium, they are small plants.I will show everyone what Air injected 3quart pots do vs 3quart pot without. Follow along. Actually I just hooked 5 up last night, all up to air. I will go start 4 more to compare, will go soak them right now.

 

[slowandeasy]

I cut and perf'd an autopot today. And I have a couple of Critical 2.0's about to pop their tap root. Both will be treated as exactly the same as I can and we'll see what happens. Same res, same air, same lighting. Only difference is the pot size and the perf's

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Awesome! Are you using the Autopots side by side or the single ones? Are you going to hand water them til a certain time before using the reservoir? When do you plan on turning the Airdomes on?

 

[KonopCh]

Actually it is a fact that the smaller the pot, the more air will be provided...no matter what size pump you have. I have a 792gph pump, that is plenty . And I have done plenty of side by sides. Have look at my Autopot vs DWC thread. I used a big pot vs a 5 gal DWC. 3BOG, they both got big, but the DWC killed it. What slowed the Coco plant down was the unnecessary amount of Coco.

I am just curious and open to opinions, not mean to be rude or something. We are talking, right...
I don't understand this: "smaller the pot, the more air will be provided...". How if air is delivered by airpump?