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Whats going on brothers and sisters??? in between last post and now ive managed to get in a few more extractions using everclear..soooo i thought i would post a few more pics and check how everybody else is doing.....
...First pic shows the starting materials
...pic 2 shows the ec in the jars presoaking before going into the freezer for another three minutes..pic three shows the material being strained thru the mesh and thru the coffee filter
..pic 4 is where i ran out of ec,so i will run that bud at a later date
i ended up evaping two pans,pic 5 shows the first pan before scraping.
pic 6 shows the final product after a heat purge and whipping,stable shatter ready to "dab"....cheers everybody
...First pic shows the starting materials ...pic 2 shows the ec in the jars presoaking before going into the freezer for another three minutes..pic three shows the material being strained thru the mesh and thru the coffee filter..pic 4 is where i ran out of ec,so i will run that bud at a later date i ended up evaping two pans,pic 5 shows the first pan before scraping. pic 6 shows the final product after a heat purge and whipping,stable shatter ready to "dab"....cheers everybody
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Ran another batch,this time using auto ultimate buds only for the bigger "chunk" the smaller chunk started out as auto ultimate Dry Ice Hash and was then Washed with Everclear and filtered ,the return on this was about 80%,and this was with 160 micron filtered hash,i would guess the return is higher with 73 micron filtered hash..but thats a story for another time...Cheers !!!!
I can no longer source Everclear or any 192 proof grain alcohol or I'd be making some! Next time I travel through a state that sells it, I'll pick up 5 gallons!
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Hi @pop22 people are getting good results using 151,but I also seen a post saying everclear is making 189 proof for the states that can't sell 190,another option is to order the 200 proof kleen xtract out of Florida,all options will make a nice product including iso alcohol and each will have it's own flavor and characteristics which I'm sure you are aware of,,btw I have been watching the battle thread..GL...
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im a non practicing alcoholic,so I have very little experience with it.but from what ive read proof is double of the % alcohol.so 150 proof is 75% alcohol ? alcohol is a semi polar,so not as good as butane non polar,but loads better than ice/water polar (or have I got the semi/non/polar bit backwards?) in terms of return from said amount of raw weed.
so using less than 99.9% iso is a bad thing ? less return and more of the green stuff being broke down.or is it use low % iso for making more plant matter extracts and high iso 99.9 if you looking for more thc ?
sorry but after reading up I skipped iso and went to bho I havnt got a lot to play with and wanted more returns.id like to give iso a go and have 5L of iso in a cupboard for months.
sorry first smoke of the day makes me babble a bit,i don't even know what I just wrote so best just ignore it
so using less than 99.9% iso is a bad thing ? less return and more of the green stuff being broke down.or is it use low % iso for making more plant matter extracts and high iso 99.9 if you looking for more thc ?
sorry but after reading up I skipped iso and went to bho I havnt got a lot to play with and wanted more returns.id like to give iso a go and have 5L of iso in a cupboard for months.
sorry first smoke of the day makes me babble a bit,i don't even know what I just wrote so best just ignore it
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The first question is why use a quick wash technique to extract the resins, instead of long soaks to extract as much resin as possible, or just boiling the material in alcohol to get the greatest amount of extracted material?
The answer to that is that because alcohol is a polar solvent that is soluble in water, the latter two techniques also extract the water solubles like chlorophyll and plant alkaloids, as well as the plant waxes and vegetable oil.
Perhaps the first question is why use a BHO technique to extract the resins, instead of just boiling the material in alcohol to get the greatest amount of extracted material?
The answer to that is that because butane is relatively non polar, it doesn’t extract the water solubles like chlorophyll and plant alkaloids. Butane produces one of the cleanest extractions, albeit typically at a lower yield than polar alcohol.
Hi @archie gemmill ..these are a couple excerpts from Skunk Pharm Research their homepage can be found pretty easily online and will explain all the stuff i cant, I use their methods to extract because they are proven,not with just the Eth but with the BHO and iso,CO2,Hexane,... look em up its good info..I still occasionally do bho and iso pulls, each is its own animal with pros and cons,finding what works for you is a great thing cause its exciting learning the processes as long as safety is exercised first and foremost... Hope this helps...Cheers
The answer to that is that because alcohol is a polar solvent that is soluble in water, the latter two techniques also extract the water solubles like chlorophyll and plant alkaloids, as well as the plant waxes and vegetable oil.
Perhaps the first question is why use a BHO technique to extract the resins, instead of just boiling the material in alcohol to get the greatest amount of extracted material?
The answer to that is that because butane is relatively non polar, it doesn’t extract the water solubles like chlorophyll and plant alkaloids. Butane produces one of the cleanest extractions, albeit typically at a lower yield than polar alcohol.
Hi @archie gemmill ..these are a couple excerpts from Skunk Pharm Research their homepage can be found pretty easily online and will explain all the stuff i cant, I use their methods to extract because they are proven,not with just the Eth but with the BHO and iso,CO2,Hexane,... look em up its good info..I still occasionally do bho and iso pulls, each is its own animal with pros and cons,finding what works for you is a great thing cause its exciting learning the processes as long as safety is exercised first and foremost... Hope this helps...Cheers
Skunk Pharm Research is a great site. Last I knew though, they took down a lot of the BHO stuff. Too many people blowing themselves up..........
The first question is why use a quick wash technique to extract the resins, instead of long soaks to extract as much resin as possible, or just boiling the material in alcohol to get the greatest amount of extracted material?
The answer to that is that because alcohol is a polar solvent that is soluble in water, the latter two techniques also extract the water solubles like chlorophyll and plant alkaloids, as well as the plant waxes and vegetable oil.
Perhaps the first question is why use a BHO technique to extract the resins, instead of just boiling the material in alcohol to get the greatest amount of extracted material?
The answer to that is that because butane is relatively non polar, it doesn’t extract the water solubles like chlorophyll and plant alkaloids. Butane produces one of the cleanest extractions, albeit typically at a lower yield than polar alcohol.
Hi @archie gemmill ..these are a couple excerpts from Skunk Pharm Research their homepage can be found pretty easily online and will explain all the stuff i cant, I use their methods to extract because they are proven,not with just the Eth but with the BHO and iso,CO2,Hexane,... look em up its good info..I still occasionally do bho and iso pulls, each is its own animal with pros and cons,finding what works for you is a great thing cause its exciting learning the processes as long as safety is exercised first and foremost... Hope this helps...Cheers
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Ouch,I first seen their posts from gray wolf on ICmag when I would "ghost " that site trying to learn about growing and extracts and such,I still refer to their site as refreshers or to get answers sometimes,,I am pretty happy with the eth extract I make,but still switch to ISO or bho now and then ,,,Thanks for stopping by @pop22
150 proof 750 mil bottle contains 187.5 mil of water, not s good for low chlorophyl extracts. Thats why 192 is prefered. Kleen Extract appears to be no more, website is gone.
I'm taking a little trip soon and can buy it buy a gallon for medicinal use. Not cheap but I'm going to get an essential oil distiller and reclaim the alcohol.
I'm taking a little trip soon and can buy it buy a gallon for medicinal use. Not cheap but I'm going to get an essential oil distiller and reclaim the alcohol.
im a non practicing alcoholic,so I have very little experience with it.but from what ive read proof is double of the % alcohol.so 150 proof is 75% alcohol ? alcohol is a semi polar,so not as good as butane non polar,but loads better than ice/water polar (or have I got the semi/non/polar bit backwards?) in terms of return from said amount of raw weed.
so using less than 99.9% iso is a bad thing ? less return and more of the green stuff being broke down.or is it use low % iso for making more plant matter extracts and high iso 99.9 if you looking for more thc ?
sorry but after reading up I skipped iso and went to bho I havnt got a lot to play with and wanted more returns.id like to give iso a go and have 5L of iso in a cupboard for months.
sorry first smoke of the day makes me babble a bit,i don't even know what I just wrote so best just ignore it