What reflective materials can I use for my grow room?

baged this from someplace else it was posted by Mutt a long time ago great info though.

What reflective materials can I use for my grow room?

Choosing the right surface for the walls of your grow room is very important, as up to 40% of your total yield comes from the edge, and the right wall surface can increase the amount of light those plants receive by up to 30%! Artificial lighting diminishes exponentially with distance, so it is important to ‘contain’ as much of this light as possible, and direct it accordingly. Reflective surfaces also help illuminate the lower portions of the garden, providing lower buds with light and heat energy. To get the best results with your light and walls, it is important to get the walls as close as possible to your garden to ensure the least amount of light is wasted. As a caveat, the percentages provided are only useful as a general guideline, as they present the range of reflectivity of the particular surfaces. The high percentage presents the best possible circumstances for that material (for example a 99% reflectivity rating for mylar sheeting would be under ideal conditions - no creases, completely flat, no discoloration, etc). The best way to determine how well your grow room walls reflect light would be to purchase a light meter and measure your light directly; then take an opaque board and hold it a few inches off one of your walls with the light meter below the board in such a fashion that the light reflects off the wall and onto the light meter. You can then compare the difference between the two and determine a percentage from those numbers, the closer the two numbers are, the better your wall reflects light. It is important that in both measurements, your light meter is the same distance from the light, otherwise your results will be skewed. Also important to note is that radiant light energy refers to electromagnetic (EM) radiation with a wavelength between 400-700 nanometers (nm) and radiant heat energy correlates to EM radiation with a wavelength between 800-2000nm. Listed below are some of the most commonly used materials used for grow room walls:



Foylon: A more durable version of mylar, made of spun polyester fabric and reinforced with foil laminate. Foylon is resistant to most solutions, won't tear or fade, and can be wiped or washed clean. A great solution for growers who are interested in long term use, and though it may be slightly more expensive than mylar, its durability will more than make up for its cost. It has the ability to reflect about 95% of the light and approximately 85% of the heat energy, so a good ventilation system should be used in conjunction with folyon. A recommended method to attach Foylon to the walls would be using Velcro, as it makes taking it down for cleaning much easier nd reduces the risk of tearing, creasing or bending it. If this is used for your walls, making sure you get it flush with the wall with no pockets of air between it and the wall to prevent hotspots.

Mylar: A highly reflective polyester film that comes in varying thickness, the most common being 1 and 2 mm thick. The 2mm thick mylar while not quite as durable as the foylon, is fairly rugged. The 1mm thick mylar tears fairly easily, so taking it down for cleaning is quite difficult without damaging it in the process. Both types of mylar are able to reflect approximately 92-97% reflective, giving it the potential to be more reflective than foylon, but because foylon is more easily cleaned without damaging it as well as it being harder to crease, foylon usually ends up being slightly more reflective. Important to note is that mylar reflects radiant heat energy just as well as foylon (around 85%), so proper ventilation is necessary if mylar is used in your grow room. Attaching this to walls can be done in a similar fashion as foylon, and the same caution should be used to avoid creating hotspots in your room. The 1mm thick mylar stands a fair chance of being creased or ripped in the process unfortunately, even if Velcro is used to attach to the walls.

C3 anti-detection film: A specialized type of mylar that exhibits the same properties as the 2mm thick mylar, but in addition to reflecting approximately 92-97% of the light, it also is 90% infrared proof, making your grow room all but invisible to IR scanning. This can also be attached in the same manner as foylon or mylar, and the same caution should be used to avoid creating hotspots in your room.

Flat white paint: Self explanatory; a great option for large grow rooms or for people who are interested in a low maintenance wall. Flat white paint has the ability to reflect between 75-85% of the light, and does not create hotspots. Adding a fungicide is recommended when painting. Glossy and eggshell whites not reflect light as efficiently as flat white.

Semi-gloss paint for example, only has the ability to reflect between 55-60% of the light. Also important to remember when using paint is that any smears or blemishes on the surface take away from how reflective the wall is so care should be taken to avoid marking or staining the walls.

Titanium white paint is very reflective; however it is usually only used on reflectors due to its high cost.

Elastomere paint (info by furun A rubberized roofing paint with 90% reflection. Good for growboxes. Mildew resistant. Highly reflective.

Kool Seal White Elastomeric Roof Coating ~ $15.00 (1 Gallon) Ultra high reflectivity Forms a rubber-like blanket that expands and contracts (Adheres) to almost any surface (very good on wood and metal) Available @ www.lowes.com

White/Black plastic (also known as panda plastic or "poly"): "Poly" is useful if you are setting up a temporary grow room or don’t want to damage the walls. Poly is easily cleaned. The purpose of the black side is to not allow any light to pass through the plastic, which ensures your dark cycle remains dark. The white side is 75-90% reflective. Choose a 6 "mill" thickness of poly for maximum light blockage and duribility. If this plastic is put too close to the light, you will obviously melt it so be careful!. Panda plastic does not create hotspots. Poly can be attached to the walls by using carpenter’s nails or using tape glue or similar means. This can be used as a cheap alternative to mylar if painting your grow room is out of the question.

Polystyrene Foam Sheeting (more commonly known as Styrofoam): This is excellent for harsh environment growrooms (your attic for example), provided you have a good ventilation system and a way to keep the temperatures from rising too high (an a/c unit or similar) as it is an excellent insulator. It is also a great material for use in a temporary setup or for use as a "travelling reflector" on a light mover, where weight is a concern. It is approximately 75-85% light reflective so it is comparable to using a flat white paint. Foam will not create hot spots. Rigid foam can be purchased in sheets, and can be used as a free standing wall or can be taped, glued or nailed to the wall, the last generally being the most successful method.

Emergency Blankets:These are ultra thin polyester blankets that are sold in most camping stores and are constructed of a single layer of polyester film that is covered with a layer of vapor deposited aluminum. It is not very effective at reflecting light because it is so thin. Holding it between you and a light source, many small holes are noticed at the intersections of creases and the entire blanket is translucent to begin with, this coupled with the many creases that are in it when you purchase it takes away a significant amount of it reflectivity. It is very easily creased as well which also detracts from its ability to reflect light. And while it is reflects nearly 90% of radiant heat energy, it is only able to reflect around 70% of the light. The largest advantage of using this type of material is that it is very cheap and therefore easily replaced. Emergency blankets can create hotspots if not attached flush to the wall so it is important that no air gaps exist between it and your supporting wall. The easiest way to attach this is to use tape (Aluminum or metal tape is recommended), as it tears very easily once it is cut or punctured.

Aluminum Foil: Aluminum foil is no more than 55% reflective - if used, make sure that the dull side is the one that is used to reflect the light. When it becomes creased its reflectivity is even lower (around 35%.) It is also very dangerous to use because it creates hotspots easily, is electrically conductive, and is a fire hazard when it is in close contact with HID lighting. Attaching this to walls is a pain and usually using aluminum tape or glue is the best way. This should only be used as a last resort, and even then its usefulness is questionable.



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I'd like to buzz in on this one and I'd like to approach it from several angles. First and foremost: What is the point? Your question addresses reflecting "wasted light" that is being directed outside of your footprint back onto your plants where it can be used as energy to drive photosynthesis (growth). another question: How much light is wasted and how much of that light can be recovered? As far as wasted light the amount will vary depending on your light setup and mainly your reflector. Manufacturers are constantly improving reflector designs to increase light output and the best designs produce the best footprints. The best designs are parabolic reflectors with a vertically mounted bulb. That's why Hollywood and professional photography studios use them. Easily confirmed with a little googling and some pretty dry tech-y reading. Horizontally mounted bulbs only shine about 1/3 of their light output due to their round shape and mounting style to the plant facing in the downward direction and in my opinion are a poor choice for a lighting system, when it depends so heavily on reflected light and not direct light. I'm sure this is a major factor in the stunning success seen with LEDs which face downward and provide a high majority of their light output directly. This is partially the reason why they have such high outputs for so little electricity burned. They do suffer from proper blending of the light spectrum but the newest units, and I'll call out the GrowNorthern HS1 because the holographic diffusion technology they've incorporated into this unit seems to have made this a problem of the past. A quick look at Tang's and other HS1 journals and this is to me seems self evident. To get back on point, how much is recoverable? Which raises another point: What will the plant use? Plants only photosynthesize light on their top surfaces. Fact. Biology. So any attempt to reflect light to the plant's underside does nothing, efforts to reflect light from the floor is a meaningless exercise. Let's look to the sidewalls where the light can be turned back in. There are several posts mentioning the use of mirrors. In a word, NO. Perhaps the poorest choice. When light passes through glass it actually splits up upon entering and recombines as it exits. You'll have to read through some pretty chunky and technical physics stuff (not fun) to confirm this, but that's how it works. And what goes in is not what's coming out, and we're after a usable light that can drive photosynthesis. Thinking it through, this has to be done twice, once as the light enters and exits the glass where it is reflected by the shiny silver backing (itself a poor material choice), and twice as it reenters and reexits in the proper direction towards the plant. Another property of glass is that it absorbs light in the ultraviolet spectrum due to its high content of quartz (which is sand, a primary component), a portion not visible to the human eye, but is essential to a plant and it's metabolic process. I came into this info buying my light setup as I was considering either a cooltube or some tyoe of enclosed reflector that could be cooled using air outside the growroom, thereby stabilizing the growroom environment, and allowing CO2 to be pumped in without being pumped out constantly. The ship is still out on the importance of UV in the grow spectrum, but I'm sold from what I've seen and read. It might may or may not make plant's more potent THC-wise, but most agree that taste, smell, and quality of the high improve. I think this would best be called an improved terpenoid profile. I grow to smoke, not to sell. I want the good shit. I want UV in my spectrum. So, any glass that contains quartz and sits between your bulb and your plant is diminishing spectrum and reducing efficiency, even the glass in the bulb itself. It's the reason people using HPS setups spend $99 on the best bulbs grow after grow and get spectacular results and walk right by the competing $25 bulb that cuts down yield. Enough said. Mirrors are for making people pretty and not pretty plants. Is there even a single reflector design using mirrors? So what then is a good choice? I'm sure the films, papers, pastes and whatnot do what they claim and provide excellent results. People will sell you anything for as much as you're willing to pay. Some are rated as high as 98% reflective. But need to be installed properly without ripples or creases to prevent hotspots. A high quality, low VOC flat white ceiling paint is 95% reflective by my understanding, not 75-85% as stated in the first post's description. I think it is the best and smartest choice because it's readily available, easy to apply and if needed reapply over time, and can be had for about $10/Qt, or $25/Gal. It's easy on the eyes, I think a couple hours around shiny Mylar with the lights on would give me a headache. So it's practical too. There are a number of posts right here making the same suggestion, from some really successful growers. No need to reinvent the wheel. Not a rant, not a rave, not a cutdown, not at all. Hoping this comes across as help and solid info for anyone who needs it. Good luck with your setup and your grow, positive vibes coming your way. I believe anyone can be successful in this growing game, but to be largely successful a lot has to be done right, and it can all get turned around rather quickly by a single wrong. I've thrown some "what could have been" really great plants straight into the trash for really simple reasons, high humidity which I took for nute burn, and just recently high temperatures which crisped up a Pineapple express with just a month left on it. Cost of tuition. Again, good luck pulling it all together. Smoke em if you got em.
 
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Wow @81camaro :) that's a lotta text! :)

I think i agree - flat white is probably best! I've used mylar and flat white, and the flat white was easier to clean and maintain and did a super job at reflecting the light.

One of the drawback i experienced using mylar was that with foliar sprays and the fans on, once the mylar has some grime on it, it's tricky to clean in a small cab without it getting grimy of smudgy! Flat white is easy to wipe down!

As for the canna culling lol - I see (almost) everything i grow to the bitter end, it's paid off for me in some respects as nursing a sick plant to health is a good lesson in itself, but i'd me mortified to kill one that i thought would produce something! Especially if it's drawing to the end of the grow.

That's just a different grower style though :)
 
As for the canna culling lol - I see (almost) everything i grow to the bitter end, it's paid off for me in some respects as nursing a sick plant to health is a good lesson in itself, but i'd me mortified to kill one that i thought would produce something! Especially if it's drawing to the end of the grow.

It's funny, I threw out the worst one and kept the best. She's coming around and I only hope there's enough time left in her to show some return. Only 1 bed in my hospital unfortunately.
 
I like flat white paint. Reflects the best based on studies I did with many materials. Believe it or not, human skin reflects light beter than a mirror. A mirror is the worst. Well black paint is the worst, but a mirror is almost as mad.

Maylar is right there with white primer but more expensive.

Panda Plastic works good.
 
One area where you are mis-informed is: "Plants only photosynthesize light on their top surfaces. Fact. Biology." Well, no, light does penetrate the leaves.
Here is an excerpt from SAG's LED Plant Lighting guide"

A quick note on spectrum


Here is a spectral reflectivity profile of a high nitrogen marijuana leaf (Jack Herer). About 90% of the green light is being absorbed (it's on an 18% reflective gray card used in photography) although many plants may be closer to 80% absorption. Plants can use green light and at higher lighting levels green is more photosynthetically efficient than red (pdf file). All the latest research and my own experiments back this claim. This is because the top layer of chloroplasts that contains chlorophyll becomes saturated while green can penetrate deeper in to leaf tissue (sieve effect) and reflected around until absorbed by another chloroplast containing chlorophyll (detour effect) or by an accessory pigment. This efficiency can be measure through chlorophyll fluorescence or a gas exchange chamber. Green light used alone tends to cause a lot of elongation (stretching). High pressure sodium lights have a lot of green/yellow/amber light which is why they do so well and are still the standard in large scale horticulture lighting. Catch 22- green/yellow/amber LEDs all have a relatively low energy efficiency compared to blue/red.

More information that postulates why plants are green can be found here. (pdf)


Source:
https://www.reddit.com/r/HandsOnCom...hd/sags_plant_lighting_guide_linked_together/

I'd like to buzz in on this one and I'd like to approach it from several angles. First and foremost: What is the point? Your question addresses reflecting "wasted light" that is being directed outside of your footprint back onto your plants where it can be used as energy to drive photosynthesis (growth). another question: How much light is wasted and how much of that light can be recovered? As far as wasted light the amount will vary depending on your light setup and mainly your reflector. Manufacturers are constantly improving reflector designs to increase light output and the best designs produce the best footprints. The best designs are parabolic reflectors with a vertically mounted bulb. That's why Hollywood and professional photography studios use them. Easily confirmed with a little googling and some pretty dry tech-y reading. Horizontally mounted bulbs only shine about 1/3 of their light output due to their round shape and mounting style to the plant facing in the downward direction and in my opinion are a poor choice for a lighting system, when it depends so heavily on reflected light and not direct light. I'm sure this is a major factor in the stunning success seen with LEDs which face downward and provide a high majority of their light output directly. This is partially the reason why they have such high outputs for so little electricity burned. They do suffer from proper blending of the light spectrum but the newest units, and I'll call out the GrowNorthern HS1 because the holographic diffusion technology they've incorporated into this unit seems to have made this a problem of the past. A quick look at Tang's and other HS1 journals and this is to me seems self evident. To get back on point, how much is recoverable? Which raises another point: What will the plant use? Plants only photosynthesize light on their top surfaces. Fact. Biology. So any attempt to reflect light to the plant's underside does nothing, efforts to reflect light from the floor is a meaningless exercise. Let's look to the sidewalls where the light can be turned back in. There are several posts mentioning the use of mirrors. In a word, NO. Perhaps the poorest choice. When light passes through glass it actually splits up upon entering and recombines as it exits. You'll have to read through some pretty chunky and technical physics stuff (not fun) to confirm this, but that's how it works. And what goes in is not what's coming out, and we're after a usable light that can drive photosynthesis. Thinking it through, this has to be done twice, once as the light enters and exits the glass where it is reflected by the shiny silver backing (itself a poor material choice), and twice as it reenters and reexits in the proper direction towards the plant. Another property of glass is that it absorbs light in the ultraviolet spectrum due to its high content of quartz (which is sand, a primary component), a portion not visible to the human eye, but is essential to a plant and it's metabolic process. I came into this info buying my light setup as I was considering either a cooltube or some tyoe of enclosed reflector that could be cooled using air outside the growroom, thereby stabilizing the growroom environment, and allowing CO2 to be pumped in without being pumped out constantly. The ship is still out on the importance of UV in the grow spectrum, but I'm sold from what I've seen and read. It might may or may not make plant's more potent THC-wise, but most agree that taste, smell, and quality of the high improve. I think this would best be called an improved terpenoid profile. I grow to smoke, not to sell. I want the good shit. I want UV in my spectrum. So, any glass that contains quartz and sits between your bulb and your plant is diminishing spectrum and reducing efficiency, even the glass in the bulb itself. It's the reason people using HPS setups spend $99 on the best bulbs grow after grow and get spectacular results and walk right by the competing $25 bulb that cuts down yield. Enough said. Mirrors are for making people pretty and not pretty plants. Is there even a single reflector design using mirrors? So what then is a good choice? I'm sure the films, papers, pastes and whatnot do what they claim and provide excellent results. People will sell you anything for as much as you're willing to pay. Some are rated as high as 98% reflective. But need to be installed properly without ripples or creases to prevent hotspots. A high quality, low VOC flat white ceiling paint is 95% reflective by my understanding, not 75-85% as stated in the first post's description. I think it is the best and smartest choice because it's readily available, easy to apply and if needed reapply over time, and can be had for about $10/Qt, or $25/Gal. It's easy on the eyes, I think a couple hours around shiny Mylar with the lights on would give me a headache. So it's practical too. There are a number of posts right here making the same suggestion, from some really successful growers. No need to reinvent the wheel. Not a rant, not a rave, not a cutdown, not at all. Hoping this comes across as help and solid info for anyone who needs it. Good luck with your setup and your grow, positive vibes coming your way. I believe anyone can be successful in this growing game, but to be largely successful a lot has to be done right, and it can all get turned around rather quickly by a single wrong. I've thrown some "what could have been" really great plants straight into the trash for really simple reasons, high humidity which I took for nute burn, and just recently high temperatures which crisped up a Pineapple express with just a month left on it. Cost of tuition. Again, good luck pulling it all together. Smoke em if you got em.
 
I use reflectix a product from home Depot. It's like bubble wrap but has super reflective side. It also has a small insulation value. Fairly expensive 20$+ for a roll but I seen it in other grow rooms/boxes and like the way it looked. So I tried it and I like it.
 
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That's one of the ugly sides to this thing and this life, all the misinformation...... just watch this pearl of wisdom below ! LOL


Lmao. That video has to be a joke. If not.....
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