Anymore of this bickering B.S and I'm going to close the thread.You guys were warned already about this and still it goes on.100 posts about defoliation,that crazy.
I never ever defoliate. Every plant I have seen does this on its own. If they aren't getting the light they turn yellow and die. In dying off the nutrients from the leaves is drawn back into the plant before it drops.
I had way to many plants in a small space. Didn't remove a single leave and when I took them from the room they were bare half way up. Let the plant do its thing. Removing parts of the plant that it uses for food isn't the best advice.
Intense training or growing like atulip is much different. Dozens of plants in small spaces. But to have a regular plant with plenty of light and remove anything is only hurting the plant.
I'm with namvet25 , now come on guys , which is best a beef sausage of a pork sausage on a BBQ . If you like a beef sausage so be it , I like a pork sausage . So you guys that recon a beef sausage is better . -- you are wrong ---
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