Lighting What are you waiting for? What's going to change the game? Who is doing interesting stuff?

[low_and_slow]

It has more to do with whether you trigger a stress reaction in the plants. Healthy plants are all the same though, however you arrive there.

 

[Mañ'O'Green]

Limiting synthetic nutes used improves terpenes. Mankind has yet to better Mother Nature, FC.

Less is more. The nute manufacturers could care less how your plants taste and work, they are profit driven.

No the science does not back this up. This is Bro Science based on poor growing skills.

What types of timers do you use for them?

I have a command center. Basically cheap timers from Harbor Freight.

I've recently dug deep into this subject and it seems to be a widespread misunderstanding that a plant can differentiate between the two different types of nutrients. They cannot mainly because there is no difference, phosphorus is phosphorus and so on down the list.
A friend of mine says it like this "Plants don't care about organics only people do. "

Every paper i have found shows that hydroponically grown crops have the advantage over traditional farming practices.
I have been looking into this because we hear it all the time with cannabis hydro for yield and organic soil grows for quality . But the science says otherwise on basically every other crop. Im totally open to the idea that some kind of magic is happening with organics if someone could point me to a study or paper that would explain why and how. Mainly because then I would recreate it in my hydro grows.

Well millennia has taught the plant and soil microbes how to live synergistically. It just plain works. In hydroponics we try to mimic that synergy and guess what? It is really hard to do. So scientifically hydro has the upper hand but in practice I would say the soil wins.

 

[Death The Cultivator]

It has more to do with whether you trigger a stress reaction in the plants. Healthy plants are all the same though, however you arrive there.

What do you mean?

 

[Filthy_Casual]

So, looking at emerald harvest website just for shits, and it turns out I'm an organic grower!!! My soil is, but I use it because its beautiful and smells and feels better than anything I've ever seen. Organic was just like "side bonus" if its even a bonus. Would have figured bottled nutes would be synthetic but I guess not. Look at me! Saving the world and stuff somehow

I have a command center. Basically cheap timers from Harbor Freight.

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Well millennia has taught the plant and soil microbes how to live synergistically. It just plain works. In hydroponics we try to mimic that synergy and guess what? It is really hard to do. So scientifically hydro has the upper hand but in practice I would say the soil wins.

Hu. That command center makes me feel like a real noob. I am scared of working electronic things since I've messed some up on vehicles in the past. This looks like something if I sat down and thought about it I could prob rig up. I want to expand my space this spring/summer and then I can work on some of that. Impressive!

 

[low_and_slow]

What do you mean?

When plants are stressed, they can send out certain signals to the environment. The smell of flowers are a combination of chemicals designed to attract pollinators, discourage pests, resist microscopic pathogens, etc. Stressed roots can result in weaker tissues, improper absorption of nutrients, and resulting deficiencies.

So the goal of the grower is to maximize plant health. For some, this is easier to do in a living soil because you can rely on the evolved synergies that exist in the rhizome.

For others, they find that growing with synthetic nutrients offer an easier path to controlling and optimizing plant health (myself, for example).

So in that sense, it really doesn't matter how you get to the top of the mountain, so long as you do...

A stressed out plant, for any reason, will be different than a plant not exposed to stress. It gets complicated when you just say, 'stress,' though because stuff like UV supplementation is very clearly a form of stress, but it's one that produces a desirable reaction (increased trichome coverage). The trick therefore is to know how to grow a healthy plant, and induce only those stressors that subjectively improve the consumption of the resulting crop...

 

[Death The Cultivator]

When plants are stressed, they can send out certain signals to the environment. The smell of flowers are a combination of chemicals designed to attract pollinators, discourage pests, resist microscopic pathogens, etc. Stressed roots can result in weaker tissues, improper absorption of nutrients, and resulting deficiencies.

So the goal of the grower is to maximize plant health. For some, this is easier to do in a living soil because you can rely on the evolved synergies that exist in the rhizome.

For others, they find that growing with synthetic nutrients offer an easier path to controlling and optimizing plant health (myself, for example).

So in that sense, it really doesn't matter how you get to the top of the mountain, so long as you do...

A stressed out plant, for any reason, will be different than a plant not exposed to stress. It gets complicated when you just say, 'stress,' though because stuff like UV supplementation is very clearly a form of stress, but it's one that produces a desirable reaction (increased trichome coverage). The trick therefore is to know how to grow a healthy plant, and induce only those stressors that subjectively improve the consumption of the resulting crop...

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I think this is really fitting of what you're talking about. It falls in line managing the entire environment rather than super charging just one aspect.

Thanks for explaining

 

[olbobcat]

Awesome, will read a bit later, thank you for the links!

There is a lot of variation in tissue culture, which leads to a cull rate or different new plants. A lot of you landscape plants are tissue cultured and they throw sports that then become a new variety to sell. So who knows what could happen?

 

[Filthy_Casual]

There is a lot of variation in tissue culture, which leads to a cull rate or different new plants. A lot of you landscape plants are tissue cultured and they throw sports that then become a new variety to sell. So who knows what could happen?

You science guys are gonna break my brain.... i might need to take the community college weed course or at least a botany class.

 

[low_and_slow]

It's a lot easier to understand once you've learned how to do agar work with mushrooms...

 

[Filthy_Casual]

I'm going to order the UV add on from Gavita. I am waiting on a few more answers about controller capability, but it should be able to hang right on the light. They said 1 per fixture. I want to get some more info about time on/off they recommend. I am also waiting on over 1 year of unemployment due to a identity issue? So once I get that monster check I will be ordering. I don't think I'm going to add it into this grow, but I will get it ready for the next and have two grows to compare it against.