Turning a shoddy shed into a groovy ganja growroom

Gonna put my science hat on (still keeping the tinfoil lining).

From Bud Wisers original post I think the Co2 setup was for a later addition but built into his design from the outset of his small (cough)(bas***d f**k**g jammy, ****) outside shed so no need for overkill ventilation, but Co2 has to be treated with the utmost respect it really can be a killer in enclosed spaces especially after they have been sealed and insulated to prevent all unauthorised leakages and draughts…. gasp….. THUD…

Which is why we are only allowed to fit Co2 extinguishers in certain indoor environments (EU/UK), and, while not as well publicised IT IS classified alongside Carbon Monoxide as a TOXIC GAS. But you should be fine even with Co2 in small increases < or your doing it very wrong!!

But are Auto's really gonna benefit from the effort of Co2 ??

I thought about experimenting with Co2 supplements but won’t bother. I have a couple of warm spaces in my small cabinet and someone elsewhere had suggested you could gain a small but significant +3% in a small growcab with a very active demijohn fermentation or two if you wanted a beer/wine. The brain whirs... allotment fruit wines etc...

BUT : by my calcs. I'd need to be producing industrial Ru vodka in 50L butts to get those percentages even in a small sized cabinet given the thruput of the ventilation ha ha. So while a very good idea for creating fast batches of wine (no use to me as I don’t drink much and if I do I’m getting fussy about the quality of what I do drink) it would appear to be of little use in growing Cannabis – even the % boosts provided by some commercial devices are totally negated by the thruput of ventilation in smaller spaces where you HAVE to vent OUTSIDE to keep down temps [Edit : by this I mean if you can't control temps while recirculating Co2 enriched air (or a high % of) within the shed then this isn't perhaps the most cost effective gain - maybe spend more on the lights?

As an x lab worker dealing with bottled gasses is a real faff - lol (I'm the one with the bottle of Snoop looking for the leak). So, (and this is my personal opinion) – leave faffing with C02 for the photoperiod growers – where the lights go off, cool down, fans move to circulation only, and the C02 floods in a restricted but circulated space where it can be absorbed over the many hours of dark respiration the Photos enjoy… With growing Auto’s 20/4 24/0 I would suspect the results to be much less obvious as it will be difficult to maintain significant Co2 increase in the face of air cooling/venting requirements.

Just my thoughts … anyone got input… it could save the man some piping lol :D << and we all love a spare pipe.
 
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I couldn't agree more @SpliffScot ... I went overboard reading Ed Rosenthal's Closet Cultivator on the bog one day taking a shit, and I've had CO2 on the brain ever since.
Or is that methane? :)

It's not a big space, and when I've got everything else running at its max, and then I want to go up to eleven (Nigel Tufnel) ....
 
@SpliffScot ... seriously tho' ... you won't get any benefit from beer kits or shit like that.
You need a totally sealed room, not a tent, and CO2 delivery from a compressed cylinder with a sustained regulated distribution mechanism.
The advantages can only be seen when all other factors are maxed out - light intensity has to be greater than normal, and with it a feeding & watering schedule to match.
Many peeps fail with CO2, not because it doesn't work, but because it's the top rung of the ladder, not the first.
 
OK that's it - I'm gonna have to look for an either an elderly neighbour with a disused shed or... an elderly shed with a disused neighbour hmmm... or buy another shed... nah they will all want a look... ffff... neighbours lol.
 
Totally agree with the Co2 << is much misunderstood - I just thought it might be difficult to maintain temps and circulation was my thought - there are extraction fan units that can redirect and control circulation v extraction on-the-fly based on temps but they are very expensive << hell even adding decent fan control to my wee cabinet is a nightmare << actually scrub that a bigger space would make it easier and cheaper << also not having to make it whisper quiet would help... hey ho..

This is why we have SHEDENVY rofl... (I wonder if we can get that added to the Oxford Dictionary as a Word)
 
Well, my hands look like a crime scene from CSI ... a tradesman I'm not.
Electricity installation is fun but fucking fiddly.
I could use a Stanley-knife Samurai at this point ...
 
there are extraction fan units that can redirect and control circulation v extraction on-the-fly based on temps but they are very expensive

Dude there are electronics that wipe your arse whilst watering ... and feed the cat.
But Donald Trump I'm not, so manual wiping will have to do.
 
OK that's it - I'm gonna have to look for an either an elderly neighbour with a disused shed or... an elderly shed with a disused neighbour hmmm... or buy another shed... nah they will all want a look... ffff... neighbours lol.

I'd go with the 'elderly shed with the dis-used neighbour' scenario ... and renovate.
Get the neighbour committed if you're feeling anarchic. Good for security.
 
Gonna put my science hat on (still keeping the tinfoil lining).

From Bud Wisers original post I think the Co2 setup was for a later addition but built into his design from the outset of his small (cough)(bas***d f**k**g jammy, ****) outside shed so no need for overkill ventilation, but Co2 has to be treated with the utmost respect it really can be a killer in enclosed spaces especially after they have been sealed and insulated to prevent all unauthorised leakages and draughts…. gasp….. THUD…

Which is why we are only allowed to fit Co2 extinguishers in certain indoor environments (EU/UK), and, while not as well publicised IT IS classified alongside Carbon Monoxide as a TOXIC GAS. But you should be fine even with Co2 in small increases < or your doing it very wrong!!

But are Auto's really gonna benefit from the effort of Co2 ??

I thought about experimenting with Co2 supplements but won’t bother. I have a couple of warm spaces in my small cabinet and someone elsewhere had suggested you could gain a small but significant +3% in a small growcab with a very active demijohn fermentation or two if you wanted a beer/wine. The brain whirs... allotment fruit wines etc...

BUT : by my calcs. I'd need to be producing industrial Ru vodka in 50L butts to get those percentages even in a small sized cabinet given the thruput of the ventilation ha ha. So while a very good idea for creating fast batches of wine (no use to me as I don’t drink much and if I do I’m getting fussy about the quality of what I do drink) it would appear to be of little use in growing Cannabis – even the % boosts provided by some commercial devices are totally negated by the thruput of ventilation in smaller spaces where you HAVE to vent OUTSIDE to keep down temps [Edit : by this I mean if you can't control temps while recirculating Co2 enriched air (or a high % of) within the shed then this isn't perhaps the most cost effective gain - maybe spend more on the lights?

As an x lab worker dealing with bottled gasses is a real faff - lol (I'm the one with the bottle of Snoop looking for the leak). So, (and this is my personal opinion) – leave faffing with C02 for the photoperiod growers – where the lights go off, cool down, fans move to circulation only, and the C02 floods in a restricted but circulated space where it can be absorbed over the many hours of dark respiration the Photos enjoy… With growing Auto’s 20/4 24/0 I would suspect the results to be much less obvious as it will be difficult to maintain significant Co2 increase in the face of air cooling/venting requirements.

Just my thoughts … anyone got input… it could save the man some piping lol :D << and we all love a spare pipe.


CO2 is only absorbed when the lights are on, I am just a little confused at your reasoning for thinking that cO2 should be on during the dark period?
 
Also Co2 is very beneficial to autos, Keep doing what you are doing lol As far as temps go with cO2 you can increase your temps if you have extra cO2 Most folks who use cO2 go up to 90 or sometimes 95. Plants can absorb more cO2 when it is hot, so your temps can be a little higher like up to 15 degrees higher. Hope this helps
 
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