Mephisto Genetics Trouble germinating, am I doing something wrong? (I read the germination guide)

[Ezidic]

Even during winter?

yes they are stored in my mancave with 2 growlights in the room.
Always pretty warm in there + I live at the coast we havent seen snow in years

 

[St. Tom]

Hi guys,
let me start off with saying I'm a huge fan. from both the products and the way they handle the marketing, freebies and customer experience.
I am no pro, but I have at least 10 successful grows under my belt, so I (think) I know what i'm doing.
I am in EU, and I must say all seeds I buy from the local breeders (like barneys and zamnesia) they germ withing 24/48 hours.
I germinate using the paper towel method, wrapped in a tshirt in a dark warm place.
I have never failed to germinate a seed in my life. Until I started growing mephisto.
Strawberry nuggets: 1 seed not sprouted after 10 days, second one sprouted after 7 days but was so stunted from seed, it ended up yielding 5 grams -->15 euros down the shitter
24 carat: 1 seed never sprouted after 10 days , second one is now for 72 hours germinating, no success yes --> probably another 15 euros down the shitter
Toof decay: also now 72 hours germinating without results....

I have bought these seeds about 1 year ago and stored them in a dark and dry place.
Am I doing something wrong?
Is it maybe because it takes long for the seeds to get to EU and by the time i germ them they are to old?
I'm really a bit disappointed. I don't really have that much money and when the store is open i try to stock up. I cant really afford to gamble when buying seeds.
I give my freebies to my friends trying to convert other mepheads in EU, cause EU be sleeping on meph. My freebies have always germinated

The canna cheese, GWK and white crack i bought sprouted like crazy and are some of the best autos i've ever seen.
Really hope im just doing something wrong and there is a simple solution

posted same thread on reddit earlier

https://www.autoflower.org/threads/germination-the-ronin-way.33891/ i post this to so many people its a sure-fire way to do them i very rarely get a failure

 

[Arthur]

When I brought my temps from low 70s to low 80s my germination rate went up significantly.

Other than that all my seeds are stored in a case and kept in the bottom drawer of the fridge. Just popped a couple photo seeds from about 5 years ago, all cracked.

 

[gringuito98]

Sorry having to say that but most probably you ruined the seeds by the way you stored them. They have to be stored at low temps. Maybe you‘ve heard about the „Svalbard Global Seed Vault“. It‘s the place where seeds of mostly all important plants on the world are stored in order to have a backup if someday we were facing a serious problem on planet earth. All seeds are stored at -18 C (-0,4 F).

Cheers and happy growing!

 

[Ezidic]

Thank you for this insight.
I will move my seedbank to the freezer then and stop buying so much seeds

everyone who responded

 

[Ezidic]

Update: I've put the next batch of seeds (Toof Decay and White crack) directly in the soil and watered with non PH tap water and they both sprouted in 3 days

On top of that I was able to snatch a 3-pack of double grape when the store was open

 

[GeorgeCloney]

Sorry having to say that but most probably you ruined the seeds by the way you stored them. They have to be stored at low temps. Maybe you‘ve heard about the „Svalbard Global Seed Vault“. It‘s the place where seeds of mostly all important plants on the world are stored in order to have a backup if someday we were facing a serious problem on planet earth. All seeds are stored at -18 C (-0,4 F).

Cheers and happy growing!

Yeah
Its actually a nuclear subterranean pit.
FYI , you got seeds that nobody else has( legal or not)...they take.

 

[GeorgeCloney]

I still have failures but this is my method.

Put the fresh or properly stored seed ½” deep in a Rapid Rooter, Root Riot, rock wool cube or similar or right in the soil. Don’t use Jiffy peat pots the PH is too low. Keep moist – not wet, and ~78°F, 60% humidity with your blue (veg) lights on and they will germinate if viable. Most strains will germinate in 5 to 7 days. Some strains take longer than others. The African sativas can take 21+ days so be patient. If your seeds are not fresh or have been stored poorly an 8 hour soak in a weak kelp solution can encourage germination. Kelp has natural Gibberellic acid GA3 which is a growth stimulator. I use 25% strength week one nutrients with a little kelp to moisten my starter cubes.

5 plus year old seeds require special treatment. As the seeds age the outer shell becomes denser making it harder for water to penetrate and stimulate the growth. A slight scuff on a piece of super fine sand paper or the striker on a match book will cut into the surface of the shell. The idea is to make sure the seed gets enough water inside before it drowns. A few minute rinse in H202 will sanitize the outside of the seed. Then proceed as above.

Old TimingMan germinated 40 year old seeds using this method:

“ Old TimingMan
I wish there was a easier way but so far my best luck has been scuffing them in a sandpaper tube, letting them set in a H2O2 bath for an hour while plunking them down every 15 minutes, and then using the GA3 at a rate of 500 PPM in distilled water with temps at the 80 degree mark from soak to sprout.”

He germinated 40 year old maui waui R.I.P. Old TimingMan.

I have as sold on the web, 90%GA3.
But much prefer the kelp approach.
Seems like a more natural way of doing things.
Mind giving us a few more details about how you go about this MOG?.
@Mañ'O'Green

 

[Mañ'O'Green]

I have as sold on the web, 90%GA3.
But much prefer the kelp approach.
Seems like a more natural way of doing things.
Mind giving us a few more details about how you go about this MOG?.
@Mañ'O'Green

That GA3 will work a trick on old seeds. I do step by step at the beginning of my grows so click on links in my signature. I use a heat mat with winter starts or a humidity dome if it is too dry. Other then that it is the same. Stick a seed in a pre-charged starter cube. keep warm and moist under veg lights and let them grow.