The Definitive Colloidal Silver Tutorial

[Epic Genetics]

thats not a bad post/article tree man , i have slight issues with some of it , but all in all its pretty good

my main concern actually applies to two of the things mentioned , first is useing 3 batteries to get up to "27-28" volts , thats way too high and will create more large particles then small ones , which brings me to the second issue i have with it , straining it through a coffee filter , made properly you do not have to do that , as all that does is let the small particle/colloids through , if it were made properly in the first place there would be no big ones to be caught in the filter

still though , like i said , its a good post and if it were the only one to read it would work and be worth it

thanx and peace

 

[nben]

Hi Bob! Have you ever started spraying CS before seeing flowers? Is earlier truly better? CS is brewing now, wondering if it would behoove me to start spraying my 2 1/2 week old DP Autoblueberry tomorrow.

Here she is, LST has begun:

 

[Epic Genetics]

Hi Bob! Have you ever started spraying CS before seeing flowers? Is earlier truly better? CS is brewing now, wondering if it would behoove me to start spraying my 2 1/2 week old DP Autoblueberry tomorrow.

Here she is, LST has begun:

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looks a bit early still , plus your doing the lst so id hold off for a bit , be sure she is good and strong so as not to stress and or stunt her

peace

 

[nben]

Thanks Bob. I will wait a bit longer. I just want the pollen sacs that open and release pollen like my first reversal. If you recall my last one I was having to crush the sacs over the flowers. Thought maybe earlier spraying would do something for it. On a different note this time I will have flowering spectrum cfl's so I will see if that makes a difference.

 

[evol]

Hi Bob! Have you ever started spraying CS before seeing flowers?

Here she is, LST has begun:

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You always want to wait for preflowers and know that it is definitely a female. It would suck to unknowingly spray a male and think you're making fem seeds with a reversed plant but the seeds all turn out reg.
Even if growing a fem seed you never know if the seedbank messed up or something. I have seen a few people grow males from fem seeds.

 

[EverythingsHazy]

You always want to wait for preflowers and know that it is definitely a female. It would suck to unknowingly spray a male and think you're making fem seeds with a reversed plant but the seeds all turn out reg.
Even if growing a fem seed you never know if the seedbank messed up or something. I have seen a few people grow males from fem seeds.

That's actually a good point about it possibly not being a female due to breeder/shipper error.
If you had to crush the flowers, maybe you didn't let them mature enough before cutting them off the plant?


Question.. IF you have 50ppm spray and 25ppm spray. Would spraying the splant 2ce daily with the 25ppm spray be the same as the 50ppm once a day? It should shouldnt it since it would be the same dose of cs particles with twice the water, but if you let the water evaporate in between, it might work. The reason for this question being that it might be easier on the plant using a lower ppm several times a day (not to mention less of an extreme fluctuation and more of a balance throughout the day) of the cs flowing into and through the plant.

Kind of like drinking 2tbsp of 25ppm vs 1 tbs 50ppm CS (just example numbers)


Using a generator, at 18ppm the cs is lightly cloudy and pale yellow after being filtered through a coffe filter (just to make sure the little black bits on the silver rods don't go into the spray bottle. The company said their generator only makes 15-20ppm cs, and to run the generator for 90-120 minutes before it stops doing anything beneficial, but that doesn't really make sense does it? I think that's just because they also say you only need 10-15ppm for health purposes (ingesting the cs) so they aren't basing it on wanting 50ppm for a plant. Leaving it overnight shouldnt do anything bad should it? It is a 24v output generator...
Also curious if in the future it could be modded to output 9v or not.

 

[nben]

You always want to wait for preflowers and know that it is definitely a female. It would suck to unknowingly spray a male and think you're making fem seeds with a reversed plant but the seeds all turn out reg.
Even if growing a fem seed you never know if the seedbank messed up or something. I have seen a few people grow males from fem seeds.

Very good point! I would be one of the few that actually was happy about a male in the pack, pollen is gold for a reason

Thanks for the suggestion!!

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That's actually a good point about it possibly not being a female due to breeder/shipper error.
If you had to crush the flowers, maybe you didn't let them mature enough before cutting them off the plant?


Question.. IF you have 50ppm spray and 25ppm spray. Would spraying the splant 2ce daily with the 25ppm spray be the same as the 50ppm once a day? It should shouldnt it since it would be the same dose of cs particles with twice the water, but if you let the water evaporate in between, it might work. The reason for this question being that it might be easier on the plant using a lower ppm several times a day (not to mention less of an extreme fluctuation and more of a balance throughout the day) of the cs flowing into and through the plant.

Kind of like drinking 2tbsp of 25ppm vs 1 tbs 50ppm CS (just example numbers)


Using a generator, at 18% the cs is lightly cloudy and pale yellow after being filtered through a coffe filter (just to make sure the little black bits on the silver rods don't go into the spray bottle. The company said their generator only makes 15-20ppm cs, and to run the generator for 90-120 minutes before it stops doing anything beneficial, but that doesn't really make sense does it? I think that's just because they also say you only need 10-15ppm for health purposes (ingesting the cs) so they aren't basing it on wanting 50ppm for a plant. Leaving it overnight shouldnt do anything bad should it? It is a 24v output generator...
Also curious if in the future it could be modded to output 9v or not.

Good points and ideas! I have to be totally honest here, and I DO NOT RECOMMEND THIS, but I just throw the rods and air stone in my jar and let it run all night. I don't even wipe them off anymore haha! The black funk I just decant off when I am filling the spray bottle like Bob suggested. I also don't have any idea what strength I am at... Sorry if I can't be of more help in that department

Edit: I should mention that I do clean the rods very good with a green scrubber before I start it for the night.

 

[EverythingsHazy]

Hmmm. Here's an interesting development... I made a batch of pale yellow 1~16-18ppm CS last night. Took about 3 hours. Today I made a batch for 10 hours, cleaning the rods twice in the process, and it went from yellow, to transparent grey, and still only read out at 18-19ppm... -____- why is this? It was at 16ppm at 3pm today. 15 minutea ago and it had only gone up 3ppm...... Are either of these solutions useable? I bottled them both up in spray bottles and have them sitting waiting for confirmation lol The weird thing is that a lot of stuff was accumulating aorund the rods still, even though the ppm wasn't really rising much. How does this get to 40-50ppm, or does it not? The company said their generators mare good formaking 15-20ppm cs, but it is a regular 24v outlet generator and it didnt just turn off, because when I cleaned the rods, I unplugged and replugged it in case that was how they set it up. But it doesn't have an auto shuttoff apparently.

Could it be that there was a thin layer of silver on the glass from the first batch when the second batch started. The glass is now overall greyish and the bottom still has silver.


also it was rinsed using distiller water for the first batch and tap for the second. But it wasn't left pooling in the bottom. Think that changed the color? Is it useful grey or should I toss it.

 

[nben]

God knows where on this thread (it's grown considerably haha) I asked about greyish solution. Bob said to go ahead and use it. Hope this helps!

 

[evol]

I'm not sure what you did wrong but you made large CS particles that's why its grey. Probably not the best for your plants the particles might be too big to be effective. The yellow stuff should work well though.