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I started my first grow with a green-o-matic and white widow, they both ended up successfully germinating. To expand, I bought a sweet seeds +speed and cream caramel. +Speed germinated and is doing well, but cream caramel has yet to germinate after 4 days in water, under a heat pad in a dresser.
Wow, disappointing from such a big autoflower company.
 
Theres no way breeders will ever be able to get a full 100% germ rate with everybody.
 
I started my first grow with a green-o-matic and white widow, they both ended up successfully germinating. To expand, I bought a sweet seeds +speed and cream caramel. +Speed germinated and is doing well, but cream caramel has yet to germinate after 4 days in water, under a heat pad in a dresser.
Wow, disappointing from such a big autoflower company.

try taking it out of the water and direct burie it......
 
Such a disappointment though considering that these seeds are a lot of money, especially when shipping from the UK.
No replacement either.
You think maybe Sweet Seeds would replace it if I emailed them?
 
There is no discussion of seed sales, trade, etc.. including replacing seeds, PM him directly to find out. Also, after 4 days in a glass of water you probably drowned the poor thing :( also, looking over at attitude, sweet seeds seems to be some of the cheapest autoflower seeds around...... So far 2 out of 2 Black Jack Autos germmed for me..... sending you a big old good luck germination cloud brother!
Peace
 
Yeah man, I don't know anyone that germinates seeds in a glass of water. I have heard of leaving them in till they sink but that is just to soften up the pod. Take it out once it sinks and place it in it's final pot. Like yoda said, you probably drowned those and that is not the breeders fault bro.

Chalk that loss up to lesson learned.
 
GoAuto6 gives good advice. Next time just plant it directly in the dirt. Especially a feminized bean... Plant it in it's final place and it will come out within 3-5 days in ideal conditions. We've all lost expensive beans one time or another man... I don't know anyone on the planet that has 100% germ rate... :smokebuds:
 
Hi everyone!

Hi Chingro! Sorry to know about that 1 seed that did not germinate and about your disappointment with Sweet Seeds because of that.

Thanks guys for sharing your opinions and for your help. Besides what has been already said I decided to post this just to add a couple of info.

In a germination test (among many others, I'll just use this one as an example) I've had the following results:

24h - 16% germination
48h - 68% germination
72h - 79% germination
96h - 86% germination
120h - 90% germination
144h - 92% germination
168h - 94% germination
192h - 94% germination
216h - 95% germination
240h - 95% germination


At 240h (10 days) that's when I personally give up. The situation reported in this thread points to a 4 day give up.

This test was performed with paper towel method.

95% germination rate is what Sweet Seeds assumes in the catalog, page 3: https://www.autoflower.org/f142/sweet-seeds-[catalog]-22163.html

Not every seeds will sprout and I think this happens with every seedbank.
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That being said, can a client ask for a replacement?

- Yes.

How should he ask for a replacement?

- The client asks the shop where the seeds were bought for a replacement, the shop should replace the seeds and then Sweet Seeds send the seeds to the shop. Unfortunatelly some shops don't do that (claiming the seeds they sell are not supposed to be germinated) and that's why we always advice clients to buy directly from the seedbank.

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Sweet Seeds sells seeds in packs of 3, 5 and 10 units. A seed sold by a third party by unit, just one seed out of the package or in a previously opened package, is not a Sweet Seeds issue and any problem coming from there should be taken care of between the client and the shop that decided to sell a product without an official sealed package. I know most shops are realiable but maybe then others are not and there is no way that Sweet Seeds can control that, so would be crazy to assume any responsability in this kind of situations.

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So, that being said, here are my 5 advices:

1 - Buy directly from the seedbank or from a shop where you know you'll get a replacement if something goes wrong;

2 - Don't buy seeds by unit. Or, if you decide to buy them by unit, it's at your own risk;

3 - Don't give up on a seed at day 4;

4 - Although some growers have good results germinating seeds in water due to their experience and care with parameters, best way to do it is with the paper towel method. Even directly in the soil is better than in the water;

5 - Although in this specific case there is no way the seedbank could replace that 1 seed (due to what I previously explained), the client should always contact first the shop where the seeds were bought and then, if the client thinks the seedbank should know about the way the shop behaves, he should contact the seedbank directly and not by opening a thread in a forum.

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Hope this helps.

If you still have the seed don't give up on her yet. Good luck!

tommy
 
Nice reply Sweet Seeds, very professional and courteous. Nice to have these guys on the board!
 
So I've seen this happen a couple of times now and I have to speak up. Judging a seed company because you couldn't get a single seed to germinate is just dumb. Germinate at the least ten, maybe 20 seeds before judging germ ratios. Also look up the definition of personal responsibility, I'd like to see more of that in growing. Be honest with yourself and your growing will improve.

Also, don't put a seed in a glass of water over a heating pad, unless you like bean soup.
 
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