Photoperiod Subtropical perpetual outdoor guerilla grow with Connoisseur Genetics: crosses of Neville's Haze, Thai, SSSDHaze, Mullumbimby, Kariba

[Bob's Auto's]

Hey there @Bob's Auto's !

Namaste Shiva's Mistress

I'm sure they are fantastic, but to be honest, whenever the breeder keeps saying "dense" buds/nugs, I get worried.
If the finished flowers are dense and it takes 11-12 weeks, then it's going to have a fairly high indica content.

They mean from sprout to finish. So you can actually start them sooner (indoors?) and take them outside at the earliest convenience.
Harvesting at around September/October would definitely put you ahead on schedule and the competition. And you won't have to worry about the rainy season.

And he has regs.

Whoopie another source of regular auto's! Thanks verry much, just ordered myself some Super-auto Copacabana Haze. Going to start them as soon as they arrive. Then in a month or so put them inside the greenhouse. Would mean I'll be able to harvest them around July


Regards,

Bob

 

[Shiva's Mistress]

Namaste Shiva's Mistress

Namaste!

They mean from sprout to finish. So you can actually start them sooner (indoors?) and take them outside at the earliest convenience.
Harvesting at around September/October would definitely put you ahead on schedule and the competition. And you won't have to worry about the rainy season.

Yeah, sprout to finish. So with maybe 4 weeks before showing sex, then it's just 7-8 weeks of actual flowering.
For me, September and October is the rainy season -- typhoon season, actually, with huge rains and winds. Plant killers if they have flowers.

So I try to run from Feb/Mar to July for my spring-summer runs, and then Oct through Feb for the fall-winter season.

Whoopie another source of regular auto's! Thanks verry much, just ordered myself some Super-auto Copacabana Haze. Going to start them as soon as they arrive. Then in a month or so put them inside the greenhouse. Would mean I'll be able to harvest them around July

You used LBH's website? Cool.
He hasn't updated it for ages.
I asked him a couple of years ago and he said he had new strains, etc., but the website never changed.
The Guerilla Gold and Jack Herer Auto reviews are mine.

The Copacabana Haze 'Super' Auto looks tempting, doesn't it?

 

[Bob's Auto's]

Yeah, sprout to finish. So with maybe 4 weeks before showing sex, then it's just 7-8 weeks of actual flowering.
For me, September and October is the rainy season -- typhoon season, actually, with huge rains and winds. Plant killers if they have flowers.

Ok, thought I figured out your location, silly me...

So I try to run from Feb/Mar to July for my spring-summer runs, and then Oct through Feb for the fall-winter season.

Great time to order you some Sativa auto's then

You used LBH's website? Cool.

Yeah, you pointed me in the direction. Regular auto's are hard to come by. Didn't know they were selling them so close to home...

He hasn't updated it for ages.

That's ok, as long as the seeds arrive.

The Guerilla Gold and Jack Herer Auto reviews are mine.

Yeah, well...I've been inside the rabbit hole, searching for information about the Super-auto Copacabana Haze. Found out he's actually from Amsterdam. found several posts on another forum. Why isn't he on this forum?!! Or is he???

The Copacabana Haze 'Super' Auto looks tempting, doesn't it?

Would have preferred the LBH’s Early Haze aka LBH´s autoflowering Haze#1, but it was sold out. This one is a hybrid made with that autoflowering Haze, so I'm hopeful I can find something special in those 10 seeds. At the very least I have another source for regular auto seeds, so I'm fine with that.
I'm currently doing a search for the real White Widow. Once found I'm going to attempt to make it auto. From what I've been reading his methods are what I was thinking about doing. Still have loads of 14 year old pages to go through, but that's for tomorrow.


Regards,

Bob

 

[Shiva's Mistress]

Ok, thought I figured out your location, silly me...


Great time to order you some Sativa auto's then



Yeah, you pointed me in the direction. Regular auto's are hard to come by. Didn't know they were selling them so close to home...


That's ok, as long as the seeds arrive.


Yeah, well...I've been inside the rabbit hole, searching for information about the Super-auto Copacabana Haze. Found out he's actually from Amsterdam. found several posts on another forum. Why isn't he on this forum?!! Or is he???


Would have preferred the LBH’s Early Haze aka LBH´s autoflowering Haze#1, but it was sold out. This one is a hybrid made with that autoflowering Haze, so I'm hopeful I can find something special in those 10 seeds. At the very least I have another source for regular auto seeds, so I'm fine with that.
I'm currently doing a search for the real White Widow. Once found I'm going to attempt to make it auto. From what I've been reading his methods are what I was thinking about doing. Still have loads of 14 year old pages to go through, but that's for tomorrow.


Regards,

Bob

LBH is / was a member here, or at least, on the old AFN site.
We did a group grow journal for his strains in ... 2019 (?) I think.
The Auto Blazing Haze and Auto Blueberry Haze also look good -- quality haze/sativa genetics with reasonable speed.

As for the White Widow, oh, man, so many arguments about this online.
Especially about Nevil, Arjan at Greenhouse,blah blah, pick a side.
Is it White Widow or Black Widow, ultimately?
There are already some Auto Widows around,
There are so many WW versions floating around, and already some auto regs too, I think.

 

[Bob's Auto's]

LBH is / was a member here, or at least, on the old AFN site.
We did a group grow journal for his strains in ... 2019 (?) I think.
The Auto Blazing Haze and Auto Blueberry Haze also look good -- quality haze/sativa genetics with reasonable speed.

As for the White Widow, oh, man, so many arguments about this online.
Especially about Nevil, Arjan at Greenhouse,blah blah, pick a side.
Is it White Widow or Black Widow, ultimately?
There are already some Auto Widows around,
There are so many WW versions floating around, and already some auto regs too, I think.

I got a message back from him saying my order would be in the mail by tomorrow. Took the opportunity to invite him back to this great place. Gave you as a reference
Yeah, White Widow...So many versions out there, but my search is for that 90's White Widow I smoked as a youngster. Got to taste it again a couple of years ago, while on holiday in The Netherlands. Luck of the draw brought me to Catweazle in Tiel. Go figure! From the first toke it took me right back to those olden days of yore...Tried to convince the owner to sell me a couple of clones, but they wouldn't have it...

Dang, just remembered something. We changed from .net to .org...I'll update him on the change, otherwise he'll end up on this page...

Regards,

Bob

 

[Shiva's Mistress]

I got a message back from him saying my order would be in the mail by tomorrow. Took the opportunity to invite him back to this great place. Gave you as a reference
Yeah, White Widow...So many versions out there, but my search is for that 90's White Widow I smoked as a youngster. Got to taste it again a couple of years ago, while on holiday in The Netherlands. Luck of the draw brought me to Catweazle in Tiel. Go figure! From the first toke it took me right back to those olden days of yore...Tried to convince the owner to sell me a couple of clones, but they wouldn't have it...

Dang, just remembered something. We changed from .net to .org...I'll update him on the change, otherwise he'll end up on this page...
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Regards,

Bob

Cool. LBH didn't post much for those last few years.
But he sponsored some nice grows and everyone had good results.
Waira (and a few others) always said that he was well ahead of everyone else in the game with regards auto hazes / long flowering sativas (especially bred for northern European climates).
Not sure if referencing me will help, hahahaaa! He'll be like, 'Who?!?"
I have no idea how to tell an 'original' Widow, but for fems, the Dutch Passion Widow grows seem very consistent and solid, and since DP have been around a long time their source (clone? seedstock?) must be from the 90s I'd guess.
Their photo Widows are available in regs and fems, so if you wanted to go back to a photo to work into your own autos, you could use their regs to find a nice male perhaps.
Mr Nice Black Widow would be another good source, though there are always some around who claim it's not as good as it was or whatever. Not that I know, just sayin' some say, if you know what I mean.

<rant>
On a totally different note, what's the deal with calling Widow a 50/50 sat/ind?
I mean, half of her is Brazilian -- that's gotta be sativa, right?
And the other half is Kerala, south Indian, which are definitely sativa.
Or is it because the Kerala is 'indian' so it's an 'indica'?
Indica originally just means from India, and sativa means 'cultivated' (not wild).
This indica / sativa terminology is just sometimes totally not helpful.
</rant>

 

[Bob's Auto's]

You should check out my thread about the Widows.

Bob's search for the real White Widow with Dutch Passion's regular genetics

:welcome: Friends to a very special project. Something I've been wanting to do for a looooong long time... :welcome: Let me begin with sending my thanks out to @Antonio_DutchPassion from Dutch Passion ♥ for providing the regular White Widow seeds. Without the support of Dutch Passion I...

www.autoflower.org

On a totally different note, what's the deal with calling Widow a 50/50 sat/ind?
I mean, half of her is Brazilian -- that's gotta be sativa, right?
And the other half is Kerala, south Indian, which are definitely sativa.
Or is it because the Kerala is 'indian' so it's an 'indica'?
Indica originally just means from India, and sativa means 'cultivated' (not wild).
This indica / sativa terminology is just sometimes totally not helpful.

You are so right. Kerala is Sativa and not to long ago I found out that the Mango Rosa is also a Sativa.
Always assumed that since the Kerala was Sativa the Brazilian would be the Indica... There's definitely Indica inside this cultivar.
I think no-one actually knows the parentage and that 99% of it is pure advertising and speculation. It doesn't matter what the parents are. The cultivar of old does still exist and that's where I'm looking for.

 

[Trichome farmer]

You should check out my thread about the Widows.

Bob's search for the real White Widow with Dutch Passion's regular genetics

:welcome: Friends to a very special project. Something I've been wanting to do for a looooong long time... :welcome: Let me begin with sending my thanks out to @Antonio_DutchPassion from Dutch Passion ♥ for providing the regular White Widow seeds. Without the support of Dutch Passion I...

www.autoflower.org

You are so right. Kerala is Sativa and not to long ago I found out that the Mango Rosa is also a Sativa.
Always assumed that since the Kerala was Sativa the Brazilian would be the Indica... There's definitely Indica inside this cultivar.
I think no-one actually knows the parentage and that 99% of it is pure advertising and speculation. It doesn't matter what the parents are. The cultivar of old does still exist and that's where I'm looking for.

i dont know if this has anything to do with it but i did listen to a guy on a podcast say he was in Pakistan or Afghanistan and depending on the altitude the same plants would produce different traits lower to sea level would grow more indica styles structure with fat leafs but say 6000ft and above everything would be long sativa style growth but still afghani plants this might come into play somewhere

 

[Shiva's Mistress]

You should check out my thread about the Widows.

Bob's search for the real White Widow with Dutch Passion's regular genetics

:welcome: Friends to a very special project. Something I've been wanting to do for a looooong long time... :welcome: Let me begin with sending my thanks out to @Antonio_DutchPassion from Dutch Passion ♥ for providing the regular White Widow seeds. Without the support of Dutch Passion I...

www.autoflower.org

You are so right. Kerala is Sativa and not to long ago I found out that the Mango Rosa is also a Sativa.
Always assumed that since the Kerala was Sativa the Brazilian would be the Indica... There's definitely Indica inside this cultivar.
I think no-one actually knows the parentage and that 99% of it is pure advertising and speculation. It doesn't matter what the parents are. The cultivar of old does still exist and that's where I'm looking for.

i dont know if this has anything to do with it but i did listen to a guy on a podcast say he was in Pakistan or Afghanistan and depending on the altitude the same plants would produce different traits lower to sea level would grow more indica styles structure with fat leafs but say 6000ft and above everything would be long sativa style growth but still afghani plants this might come into play somewhere

There are a few forums that have a lot of landrace growers and also seedbanks.
The usual places for so-called 'indica' like Afghanistan, Pakistan, etc., also often have narrow leaf plants.
I think the terminology is just not helpful, and then the usual indica is wide leaf sativa is narrow leaf, indica is narcotic and sativa is psychedelic, etc., are just mashing together all sorts of different traits that aren't always connected.
Anyhoo, back to the topic, let me check out the Widow hunt thread!

 

[Bob's Auto's]

I got a message back from him saying my order would be in the mail by tomorrow.

And I've received my order. Still got some time before I'm going to germinate these.
Also got 5 Eirdbei seeds with it. At first I thought to myself, he isn't going to add strawberry seeds to my order, is he?!
But I started looking and seems this cultivar got quite the history itself. It is a regular photo and got Jack Herer and Black Domina in it. Makes me at least as curious as these Super-auto Copacabana Haze seeds!!


Thanks for the heads-up buddy