Mephisto Genetics Spanglish´s Deep Blue Orange Alien encounter

[blue]

Hey Spanglish,

not wanting to teach grandma to suck eggs (what a weird expression eh?!?) but here's my thoughts

It looks a bit like overwatering symptoms - I'd have thought the leaves would be darker with that kind of curl if it were N Tox.

 

[Spanglish]

Hey Spanglish,

not wanting to teach grandma to suck eggs (what a weird expression eh?!?) but here's my thoughts

It looks a bit like overwatering symptoms - I'd have thought the leaves would be darker with that kind of curl if it were N Tox.

Thanks for the input Blue pal is truly appreciated, over watering is the other thing that was playing on my mind and obviously the treatment i have started for N tox is the last thing i want to be doing by putting more H2O in, will also explain why the Deep Blue C is showing more than the Orange Alien as the 1L airpot is drying a lot more than the big square pot and think what i am seeing on the little girl is more normal leaf droop than anything else.

So gonna stick to the new feed plan anyways on the little girl as it is something i would like to try, but gonna let the big girl dry out proper and see if she improves before rethinking her schedule, as if it is overwatering i forgot to take into account this time round lower temps are gonna dry the big pot slower.

EDIT: Have also just repositioned the fan blowing across the surface of the big pots soil, lets see if that drys her out a bit quicker.

 

[Spanglish]

Just a quick update on the drooping and all is looking better now and soil is starting to dry nicely so looks like overwatering is the culprit, thanks for swinging my mind in the right direction @blue mate.

I managed to dry it out nice and fast doing the following, first nearly completely closed up the box and shut down the fan for a few hours which over the space of 4 hours went from 23c to 30c @ 63% RH and then put the fan back on for a couple of hours to bring it back down to 26c @ 30% RH and then fan off again and then back on just before bed, also turned over the top 1 cm of soil and then using a pencil gently pushed air holes a few cm down all over the soil to get oxygen into the roots and dry and release moisture from the soil.

Reckon another 24hrs or so of this and she will be ready for another feed

 

[HubbaBubba]

Whoa!
Now I understand, a good photo is worth a thousand explanations.
Some leaves are really curled up, any sign of nute burn on the tips?

 

[Spanglish]

Nope no sign of burn, except some old damage from nute splash. The leaves look a bit better after drying out the soil a bit and new growth looks good and is unaffected, so looks to be back on track And am breathing a bit easier. Think the over watering has delayed flowering A bit as what I thought were pistils never showed and am still waiting.

Orange Alien was not really affected by it And think the droop on that leaf Was the same as what I saw on Sour Crack just before she went into the stretch, also there is some clear growth now Where I made the cut and should have at least two or three clear new tops In the next couple of days.

Photos will come in the next update Tomorrow as I can't get in to take pics today, hopefully they should show the bowl I am trimming out in the centre of Deep Blue C to try keep light on all potential bud sites.

 

[Spanglish]

Day 21

That's three weeks down and after my silly over watering mistake all looks back on track, and Deep Blue C in the big pot will start her new feed schedule from tomorrow.

Orange Alien has recovered from her cut and at least two new tops have started clearly growing just in time as she is just getting ready to kick into her pre flower stretch. All lower growth has been trimmed to tidy her up and open up the lower bud sites, so just time to feed her and let her grow now and wait to see what comes of her new tops.

Deep Blue C has recovered fine from her over watering with a couple of clawed leaves left but nothing like the other day, soil is probably dry enough to squeeze a feed in today but gonna play it safe and give another day before putting more in. Am continuing to trim out all larger leaves growing to the center of the two tops as this is working out great to open her right up and get light into both potential cola and all lower growth that come from them. So just waiting for sex to show on Deep Blue C now as the pistils i thought i saw coming the other day never showed, so either a later flowering pheno or the water stress delayed flowering a bit.

Feeds

Deep Blue C
Day 15 - Grow 1ml/L + AlgaMic 1ml/L @ 600ml
Day 16 - X
Day 17 - Grow 2ml/L + AlgaMic 2ml/L + CalMg 1.2ml/L @ 500ml
Day 18 - X
Day 19 - AlgaMic 2ml/L @ 650ml
Day 20 - X
Day 21 - X

Orange Alien
Day 15 - Grow 1ml/L + AlgaMic 1ml/L @ 400ml
Day 16 - 400ml Water
Day 17 - Grow 1ml/L + AlgaMic 1ml/L + CalMg 1.2ml/L @ 400ml
Day 18 - Grow 1ml/L + AlgaMic 1ml/L + CalMg 1.2ml/L @ 400ml
Day 19 - AlgaMic 2ml/L @ 350ml
Day 20 - Grow 2ml/L + AlgaMic 1ml/L + CalMg 1.2ml/L @ 400ml
Day 21 - AlgaMic 2ml/L @ 400ml


Deep Blue C

Orange Alien

 

[Grim Reefer]

Hi Spanglish.
Im glad to read that you are sorting out the small little problems.
It can be annoying sometimes when there is a glitch in the works and its difficult to figure it out.
One thing i would point out if its ok dude , is the raised leaf edges.
How close have you got that brand new shinny bulb of yours? It looks like the plants have a little heat stress.

That Deep Blue is going to be awesome with the double tops dude i cant wait to see how she progress through the next few weeks.

 

[MrK]

Nice recovery from the Deep Blue C, Spanglish. Well done. Interesting split. I would be tempted to tie those down, but I think she has had enough stress at this moment. Be happy that she didn't flower yet. That will give her time to make more bud sites win/win.
Good luck

 

[Spanglish]

Hi Spanglish.
Im glad to read that you are sorting out the small little problems.
It can be annoying sometimes when there is a glitch in the works and its difficult to figure it out.
One thing i would point out if its ok dude , is the raised leaf edges.
How close have you got that brand new shinny bulb of yours? It looks like the plants have a little heat stress.

That Deep Blue is going to be awesome with the double tops dude i cant wait to see how she progress through the next few weeks.

Thanks Grim pal For the kind words and the eagle eyes, yeah she is showing a bit of heat stress due to me hot boxing the cab a few times while drying the soil. New flowering bulb is not in yet, am still on the 125w veg at about 8cm from Deep Blue C and 4 cm from Orange Alien.

Nice recovery from the Deep Blue C, Spanglish. Well done. Interesting split. I would be tempted to tie those down, but I think she has had enough stress at this moment. Be happy that she didn't flower yet. That will give her time to make more bud sites win/win.
Good luck

Thanks pal just did what I thought would be best and looks to have worked

Was thinkavout about tieing her early on but the lowers have been growing out and up nicely Just by trimming out those in growing leaves that would have covered them, so went for a change of plan time round to try something a bit different.

Good point about the later flowering also, have been comparing to my last Deep Blue C at this stage, And would say she certainly looks to have the makings of a more substantial frame

 

[MrK]

Thanks pal just did what I thought would be best and looks to have worked

Was thinkavout about tieing her early on but the lowers have been growing out and up nicely Just by trimming out those in growing leaves that would have covered them, so went for a change of plan time round to try something a bit different.

Good point about the later flowering also, have been comparing to my last Deep Blue C at this stage, And would say she certainly looks to have the makings of a more substantial frame

I know the feeling of thinking and looking closely to behavior and have a guess. The best feeling is when You get things right. I'm tested myself with the same strain in two different soils. One which is hotter than I thought and one with no nutrients. Used none of them for autos before. It's a look, guess and test, but I have them under control and it feels great

I just sat by my computer and could actually see what was on the pictures. She is beautiful and I agree. Looks like your trimming is doing the job. It looks great.