Indoor So Frustrated!

[Peekineeze]

hey Peek,

No sweat man, first off let me say it's ok you did the flush, it doesn't hurt to wash your roots every month as it cleans the soil from salt accumulation. But then you need to replenish the soil with nutes you washed away with the salts, in a proper quantity for your current life cycle phase. It looks like vertical growth as stoped and your in full flowering phase, yeah? so I supose you already replenished or are about to replenish the soil according with the feeding chart.

some plants have bigger needs and others lower. that's why this charts are aiming for the average plants. You should try to increase your dosage on your "micro" and on your veg aswell, try this if you still have at least 3 weeks ahead: 1 week for results, 1 week for possible changes if needed, and the last one for flush.

You need to remove the dried leafs because they're doing nothing but stoping air flow and making your grow look dirty and generally not clean

epsom salts and cal/mag are a growers usefull tool

Hope it helps,

Initially I was removing all the dead leaves but every time I would remove one, another would die immediately. Eventually I let it be because I needed the plant to show its sickness for the pictures. As far as nutrients go, I've tried to give them as much as they can handle. Almost all my plants have a little nutrient burn. Once I notice it I back off. After reading the comments I'm thinking it has to be calcium deficiency. I was using molasses and that has magnesium but I spaced the calcium. I will make sure to use it more often and see if that works. I appreciate your help.

 

[JM]

all good advice above... but we never got the answer to the question about you ph?

heres why its important:

 

[Hugo]

Just so this isn't confusing I want to point out that the plants in the pics (plants 6 & 7) are already dead. Those are the ones that smelled like corpse plants. I have two more that are so beaten down I might also kill them. They all look the same so I used the pics that were already on my computer.

With my current plants (plants 7 & 8) that presented symptoms at week 5. I started veg nuts at week 2. I'm pretty sure this was too much, too early because the plants were getting that dark green/bluish color and also the leaf tips hooked down. So I stopped nuts on day 23 and waited until "the plants told me what they wanted". The color didn't lighten up until week 5 which is when I started with nuts again. I guess I completely got that all basakwards.

I just checked my journal for the plants that are shown in the pics (6 & 7). I gave them cal/mag on day 37 and it looks like they got symptoms later than I thought, (around day 45). I did foliar feeding with Epsom salt prior to getting the cal/mag. I also started with molasses about the time they started showing symptoms. Do you use cal/mag along with molasses? *I read that molasses has magnesium. My current two plants were given molasses every feeding and they got hit hard.

I will make sure to use more cal/mag on my next 2 plants. Thanks for the help.

Initially I was removing all the dead leaves but every time I would remove one, another would die immediately. Eventually I let it be because I needed the plant to show its sickness for the pictures. As far as nutrients go, I've tried to give them as much as they can handle. Almost all my plants have a little nutrient burn. Once I notice it I back off. After reading the comments I'm thinking it has to be calcium deficiency. I was using molasses and that has magnesium but I spaced the calcium. I will make sure to use it more often and see if that works. I appreciate your help.

You'll have to excuse my honesty but why do you put up pictures of a plant that isn't the one with the problems? You say you stopped removing leafs for the sake of pictures for diagnosis... So where are the pictures? It seems a bit pointless I'm sorry to say.

It's not calcium for sure.

 

[waveguide]

it's a sad thing that many people aren't as egalitarian as they claim they are. we could be living in a paradise if people were even open about sharing information.

i'll tell you now, and i hope for god's sake that some of you will have the nuts to remember it and pass it on:

IF YOUR PLANT STINKS DO NOT KILL IT.

ADD WHITE VINEGAR TO THE WATER.

it will stop smelling.


it's better not to rely on vinegar for an entire grow because it's not "the best" thing to be giving your plant.. but in moderation it will survive. the stink will be knocked off in a few hours.


now... will some of you good people help me make these thnigs generally known so that sometime, somewhere in the universe, some of us can actually get high?

remember... a world full of high people is a world full of people less inclined to being pricks.

please, think of the children, and help me get high.

 

[Hugo]

I think the smell is a symptom not the cause, but good to know.

 

[Hugo]

JM has a point. What's that pH?

 

[Peekineeze]

You'll have to excuse my honesty but why do you put up pictures of a plant that isn't the one with the problems? You say you stopped removing leafs for the sake of pictures for diagnosis... So where are the pictures? It seems a bit pointless I'm sorry to say.

It's not calcium for sure.

The plants have the exact same problem so I used the pics that were already on my computer. If you must know my sister borrowed my camera for a concert and she hasen't given it back so I couldn't take new pics. But honestly you wouldn't be able to tell any difference between the two sets of plants. Exact same problem. If its not calcium then what do you think?

 

[Peekineeze]

The PH info was in my original post. The runoff PH for the plants in the picture was below 5.0. Those plants had the same problem with yellowing, drying, twisting and curling up plus a few other problems caused by the PH issues such as purple stems and rust spots. My two plants that are currently having the problem with yellowing, drying, twisting etc are in a soil mix that has less Perlite and pulverised lime added so the runoff PH is around 6.4 after 6.8 water is added. The purple stems and rust spots didn't return once the PH was better but the other issue came back full force. That's why the title was "So Frustrated". My runoff is now about perfect so I was supprised when this issue reoccurred. Sorry if that wasn't clear.

 

[Peekineeze]

it's a sad thing that many people aren't as egalitarian as they claim they are. we could be living in a paradise if people were even open about sharing information.

i'll tell you now, and i hope for god's sake that some of you will have the nuts to remember it and pass it on:

IF YOUR PLANT STINKS DO NOT KILL IT.

ADD WHITE VINEGAR TO THE WATER.

it will stop smelling.


it's better not to rely on vinegar for an entire grow because it's not "the best" thing to be giving your plant.. but in moderation it will survive. the stink will be knocked off in a few hours.


now... will some of you good people help me make these thnigs generally known so that sometime, somewhere in the universe, some of us can actually get high?

remember... a world full of high people is a world full of people less inclined to being pricks.

please, think of the children, and help me get high.

Thanks for the tip. This wasn't a good stink by any means. If it was I would have been happy. It honestly smelled rotten. My neighbor actually mentioned it and I went into a panic. She blamed it on the teenagers next door though. I doubt these plants would have yielded much after being stressed out like that for so long. It's ok. I have pleanty of seeds and I want to get it right. If a few plants have to be sacrificed during my learning curve then so be it.

 

[Hugo]

Well, from what I see in the pics I'd say N, perhaps Mg. Nothing else really... And I've been searching on several literatures. So I've got no clue.

If it's a nute def it's a mobile nutrient.