SCHWAZZING AUTOFLOWER

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[2budz]

Thanks buddy! Always need help trimming. Lol
Going to need more help smoking it all… hope you don’t mind helping me out with that.

As a matter of fact I don’t! Lol. I’m still trying to talk the wife into helping me trim but no dice. Maybe one of these days.

 

[Humanrob]

Here are some before and after pics of a couple current grows that I schwazzed a few days ago.

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I really appreciate the before and after pictures, and that you include information all the way to final weights.

It looks like some of your rockwool cubes you grow in flood and drain, and others you drop into/onto soil? If I'm seeing that correctly, what I'm wondering is if you find that you have to treat plants grown in the two methods any differently in terms of how you go about schwazzing?

And are you topping or training these? Curious what your preference is, and why?

 

[420autoflower]

I really appreciate the before and after pictures, and that you include information all the way to final weights.

It looks like some of your rockwool cubes you grow in flood and drain, and others you drop into/onto soil? If I'm seeing that correctly, what I'm wondering is if you find that you have to treat plants grown in the two methods any differently in terms of how you go about schwazzing?

And are you topping or training these? Curious what your preference is, and why?

No problem brother! I’ll continue to post different grows on this thread to show the benefits of schwazzing.
I use the Grodan 4x4” cubes as a starter medium for all my grows. It enables me to feed them exactly what they need while they’re young and I’m also able to grow many seedlings in a small area. I always like to start germinating a few weeks ahead of time and can veg young seedlings in the cubes for about 8-10 days before I need to do anything with them. Buys me a little time and gives me a good head start on my next grows. This last crop was a comparison I was doing with different substrates, I had 5 growing in coco/perlite, 5 in Grodan Grow chunks, 2 growing on different sized rock wool slabs, 2 in 6x6” Hugo blocks and 2 with the 4x4” cube stacked on top of the 6x6” Hugo. I fed all of them the same amount of nutrients but tweaked the amounts when I noticed a few of them starting to show minor deficiencies. Doesn’t take much to correct deficiencies in rock wool or coco and they respond very quickly. Had to do all the leaf stripping at different times as there were a few late flowering plants that grew more leaves after I gave all of them their last schwazz. Very rare that I have all flower at the same time.
I never top my plants except for the accidental topping when I snap them while training. Lol! All I do is pull the main top over with a bent coat hanger stake and keep it horizontal for about 8 days by constantly adjusting the stake. This helps all the bottom nodes catch up to the main top and develop more cola sites. I know many people have success with topping their plants but I’m a creature of habit and have always bent the main top over to create a flatter canopy.

Here are a couple picks to show the different substrates I used with this last grow

 

[Humanrob]

No problem brother! I’ll continue to post different grows on this thread to show the benefits of schwazzing.
I use the Grodan 4x4” cubes as a starter medium for all my grows. It enables me to feed them exactly what they need while they’re young and I’m also able to grow many seedlings in a small area. I always like to start germinating a few weeks ahead of time and can veg young seedlings in the cubes for about 8-10 days before I need to do anything with them. Buys me a little time and gives me a good head start on my next grows. This last crop was a comparison I was doing with different substrates, I had 5 growing in coco/perlite, 5 in Grodan Grow chunks, 2 growing on different sized rock wool slabs, 2 in 6x6” Hugo blocks and 2 with the 4x4” cube stacked on top of the 6x6” Hugo. I fed all of them the same amount of nutrients but tweaked the amounts when I noticed a few of them starting to show minor deficiencies. Doesn’t take much to correct deficiencies in rock wool or coco and they respond very quickly. Had to do all the leaf stripping at different times as there were a few late flowering plants that grew more leaves after I gave all of them their last schwazz. Very rare that I have all flower at the same time.
I never top my plants except for the accidental topping when I snap them while training. Lol! All I do is pull the main top over with a bent coat hanger stake and keep it horizontal for about 8 days by constantly adjusting the stake. This helps all the bottom nodes catch up to the main top and develop more cola sites. I know many people have success with topping their plants but I’m a creature of habit and have always bent the main top over to create a flatter canopy.

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Here are a couple picks to show the different substrates I used with this last grow
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Thanks for that great reply. I look forward to hearing about what you learn from your current medium experiment/comparison.

I've read a few comparisons of training vs. topping, and most seem to end with similar results. Like you, I'm a creature of habit, and I've been topping mine for years. I might try doing my own comparison this time, and train half and top half and see how that works with my setup.

My other habit is growing in bag soil, and I have to remind myself when I see amazing results in other people's grows that my choices come with impacts, and from what I've seen, that choice alone sets a limit on my results. I'm OK with that, it is what it is. Within those limitations, I can still expand my personal envelope, and I think schwazzing is going to push that out a bit for me this time around.

 

[420autoflower]

Thanks for that great reply. I look forward to hearing about what you learn from your current medium experiment/comparison.

I've read a few comparisons of training vs. topping, and most seem to end with similar results. Like you, I'm a creature of habit, and I've been topping mine for years. I might try doing my own comparison this time, and train half and top half and see how that works with my setup.

My other habit is growing in bag soil, and I have to remind myself when I see amazing results in other people's grows that my choices come with impacts, and from what I've seen, that choice alone sets a limit on my results. I'm OK with that, it is what it is. Within those limitations, I can still expand my personal envelope, and I think schwazzing is going to push that out a bit for me this time around.

Nothing wrong with growing in soil… there are many people on this forum that do very well with soil, some even have similar results to hydro. When I get bored with growing in rock wool I grow in Fox Farms Happy Frog and dry amendments, which seems to work well for me. Really enjoy growing plants in coco too, I think close to half of my plants are in coco now. I usually run Down to Earth organic dry amendments with my soil and coco grows but decided to feed the coco plants synthetic nutes all the way to the end with this last run. It’s nice to be a diversified grower and changing things up once in awhile keeps things interesting.

 

[blue]

Great thread and explanation @Born slippy





Thanks for putting this together, and all contributors to this thread (growtogrow, 420autoflower, mattymatt, and all others who uploaded photos and explanations)

I've put some thread marks in so people can find the Schwazz they're looking for. (for me it was soil - thinking this may be a hydro only training method)

@Eggboy - let me know how you get on! - you've got the most similar setup to me

 

[2budz]

Thanks for the rep @blue here are those plants now

 

[MattyMatt726]

Great thread and explanation @Born slippy





Thanks for putting this together, and all contributors to this thread (growtogrow, 420autoflower, mattymatt, and all others who uploaded photos and explanations)

I've put some thread marks in so people can find the Schwazz they're looking for. (for me it was soil - thinking this may be a hydro only training method)

@Eggboy - let me know how you get on! - you've got the most similar setup to me

Just thought I'd let you know, i saw the mark on my pic and it's labeles Soil. I actually usually grow in Royal Gold Tupar, but this was 4:1 perlite and vercumulite for this grow in the 5 gal. I usually prefer my 2.2 gal autopots, but feel like i was going to like the Mango Isle, so took a chance on letting her go big.

 

[420autoflower]

Great thread and explanation @Born slippy





Thanks for putting this together, and all contributors to this thread (growtogrow, 420autoflower, mattymatt, and all others who uploaded photos and explanations)

I've put some thread marks in so people can find the Schwazz they're looking for. (for me it was soil - thinking this may be a hydro only training method)

@Eggboy - let me know how you get on! - you've got the most similar setup to me

Thanks for the reps @blue

 

[HAWKMAN]

Thank you @HAWKMAN!!!
Here are the results from all the pruning.
They all have about another week to go.

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size of pots yoiu are using -- have just finished a auto with a 3 gallon