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[arcticsun]

thanks for chiming in FD, ofc i dont mind

so i would say evolving to the environment could be the closest thing i can wrap my head around.

Its very often so..

One other thing is the smell/taste. Some of these plants, have such a strong smell that if you were to run it past a blind man it could confuse him. Where did that come from, why does it smell grape when its not even related to a grape, same with Lemon, and all the other citrus ones. Thats what really boggles me. I have had smoke that tastes like a spoon full of fruity pebbles, its just one thing i cant wrap my head around. Where and why did they get those smells.

Ive noticed from my arctic outdoor grow is that my outdoor autos has an incredibly pungent fruity lemony type of odor and flavor. In my grow im wondering if this has to do with the 24h a day constant sunlight we have here combined with the low temperatures which providess a slow growth rate and possibly a surplus of sugars.

Im wondering if we see the same thing with strawberries from arctic Norway, half of Norway is north of the arctic circle and the other half is south if it, north Norwegian strawberries are considerably sweeter and much better tasting then south Norwegian strawberries. Its because they grow very slowly in cold temperatures with constant sunlight for over 2 months, they dont have this midnight sun in south nor.. so the strawberries develop more sugars in the north and the taste is something you instantly notice. The taste is much much stronger, north Norway strawberries is a delicacy in a very high price range.

Could the flavor be a result of the way the autos build and store sugars? They have to do something special to keep that rapid growth rate going.

.. not sure if this can be related to the smells and flavors you find in your plants, but ive also noticed that purple plants have a distinct flavor


.. indicas are most commonly purple right? they grow in high altitude and often cold conditions.... just throwing out random thoughts here



..it will be very interesting to see next season, ill experiment as much as i can with colorful autos and see if i can notice any difference in performance... its not few times that wiz's purple autos has left me in deep thought.. there is something... magic.. about them, they just look .. special for lack of a better word.

 

[FullDuplex]

thanks for chiming in FD, ofc i dont mind



Its very often so..



Ive noticed from my arctic outdoor grow is that my outdoor autos has an incredibly pungent fruity lemony type of odor and flavor. In my grow im wondering if this has to do with the 24h a day constant sunlight we have here combined with the low temperatures which providess a slow growth rate and possibly a surplus of sugars.

Im wondering if we see the same thing with strawberries from arctic Norway, half of Norway is north of the arctic circle and the other half is south if it, north Norwegian strawberries are considerably sweeter and much better tasting then south Norwegian strawberries. Its because they grow very slowly in cold temperatures with constant sunlight for over 2 months, they dont have this midnight sun in south nor.. so the strawberries develop more sugars in the north and the taste is something you instantly notice. The taste is much much stronger, north Norway strawberries is a delicacy in a very high price range.

Could the flavor be a result of the way the autos build and store sugars? They have to do something special to keep that rapid growth rate going.

.. not sure if this can be related to the smells and flavors you find in your plants, but ive also noticed that purple plants have a distinct flavor


.. indicas are most commonly purple right? they grow in high altitude and often cold conditions.... just throwing out random thoughts here



..it will be very interesting to see next season, ill experiment as much as i can with colorful autos and see if i can notice any difference in performance... its not few times that wiz's purple autos has left me in deep thought.. there is something... magic.. about them, they just look .. special for lack of a better word.

Now you really have sparked something in the brain. It makes sense that the sugars in the plant longer make the taste better and sweeter. Its like slow cooking a steak on the grill, you keep the juice IN the meat enhancing the flavor of the steak. With the slower growth the plant has more time to build up and secrete the "smell."

Now with that said i believe from what i am seeing from a scope point of view the non glandular trics or whispy trics i am seeing are the ones that assist getting the scents or smells to the surface for us to smell. Im wondering if you are getting a higher concentration of them there. If you are it would mean that Wiz and i are right and they are related to smell. If thats the case we both have photos of this process. Id love to see a bud or leaf off of one of the ones that smell strong. I would almost bet my 2 week income that you have a higher number of the non glandular ones.

The non glandular trics have a "glob" that moves from the bottom to the top, almost looking like a regular tric, but its not. You can see the difference on a regular tric the head is round and almost centered to the stalk. The non one looks like a hair with a drop of water hanging from it. You can see the difference under the scope.


edit: If you notice on that special spanish patio, the purples are the strongest in the "off season" look how the dragons performed, and there is a TON of affy genetics in there.

Look at the base of this tric stalk, you will see the whispy or hair like object with a thick base. That is what i am talking about

 

[arcticsun]

Now you really have sparked something in the brain

i hate it when that happens

Im wondering if you are getting a higher concentration of them there. If you are it would mean that Wiz and i are right and they are related to smell

this is a bit new to me, ive read a bit of your research on trichomes but its not quite stuck to my brain yet hehe, the trichome stuff still goes a bit over my head but its very interesting m8, ive gotta read up.. ill try to find some closeup pictures for you of the smelly ones but im afraid ive got no macro shots

if what you are saying is correct, then its very interesting... im not fully able to logically relate this info yet, but turpentine springs to mind as an interesting substance without having read up on it yet, its a strong smelling substance that is destilled from resin or oil from plants... but as i said these are just random thoughts that pop into my head without me being able to sort them fully yet.


ill read up on this, something tells me that if i do some google searches on the worlds sugars, turpentines and plants that ill find something useful

 

[Rebel]

Hey FD... The trich description you speak of... Last night I was checking on my NYLD x PE cross that I'm growing. She's about a month old but frosty as hell. Her trichs looked different to me... Never seen em like that before... They just happen to look exactly like the whispy hair trich you are talking about! I thought I was on too much Bubblegum and couldn't focus LOL But, seriously that's crazy... If I can get some clear pics of it I'll post em so you can see what I mean.

 

[FullDuplex]

i hate it when that happens

:smokebuds:

this is a bit new to me, ive read a bit of your research on trichomes but its not quite stuck to my brain yet hehe, the trichome stuff still goes a bit over my head but its very interesting m8, ive gotta read up.. ill try to find some closeup pictures for you of the smelly ones but im afraid ive got no macro shots

if what you are saying is correct, then its very interesting... im not fully able to logically relate this info yet, but turpentine springs to mind as a similar substance without having read up on it yet, its a strong smelling resin or oil from plants... but as i said these are just random thoughts that pop into my head without me being able to sort them fully yet.

Well you are not alone, i am still learning more about them too, seems the deeper i go the more there is, wouldn't be great if more things in life were like that . Ive scoped plant after plant from different genetic background and i have found them on every one i have seen, the difference however, has always been how many there are and until this convo i never put two and two together as far as how strong the smell was.

as far as the pics go ill take what i can get if you can get clear, in-focus shots i can enhance the photo, or........we could do something else too.

 

[Rebel]

This is the first time I've seen it. Then again I've seen maybe 30 plants in my lifetime I'm still GREEN I'm so new! Hahaha!! This one lady is LOADED with them. They are everywhere. I'll get some photos soon.

 

[FullDuplex]

This is the first time I've seen it. Then again I've seen maybe 30 plants in my lifetime I'm still GREEN I'm so new! Hahaha!! This one lady is LOADED with them. They are everywhere. I'll get some photos soon.

Cant wait to see this WVR, i love to study them and look them over. there is ALWAYS something new to learn about with them. Like Wiz always told me, if we loose interest in the beautify of them, then why bother growing them at all?

 

[arcticsun]

we will get to the bottom of this FD, you have just made one fantastic discovery if this is correct, and i think it is!


when i think back, i remember that ive seen a large number of that type of trichomes on many of my outdoor plants. Ive got to search through hundreds of pictures to see if i can find some closeups with good enough quality for you, but we will do that other thing too anyway



amazing m8, impressive attention to details :thumbs:

 

[FullDuplex]

This is the first time I've seen it. Then again I've seen maybe 30 plants in my lifetime I'm still GREEN I'm so new! Hahaha!! This one lady is LOADED with them. They are everywhere. I'll get some photos soon.

whats the smell like on that one WVR is it stronger than the rest?

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we will get to the bottom of this FD, you have just made one fantastic discovery if this is correct, and i think it is!

cheers, but its not been an alone effort. There has been Wiz and now you that have sparked things OR made things click, and your original post did just that.

when i think back, i remember that ive seen a large number of that type of trichomes on many of my outdoor plants. Ive got to search through hundreds of pictures to see if i can find some closeups with good enough quality for you, but we will do that other thing too anyway

awesome, would LOVE to see them, and i think the other thing will give you a double wammy

amazing m8, impressive attention to details :thumbs:

all in the name of the Auto:ama:

EDIT: time for smoke break

 

[arcticsun]

yea bro, smoke break :smokebuds:

Found out that there is an interesting relationship between sugars and turps, turps is used in traditional medicine, apparently turps lower the sugar levels so when its taken its dripped on sugar cubes before its eaten.

..so there could be a relationship between sugar production, terps and these glandless trichomes that we see... maybe something along the lines of turps having the effect of breaking down sugar surplus in plants or something

but again, this is just the first thoughts spinning through my head, could be wayyy off