Real Science vs Bro Science: Ohhh some of you are NOT going to like this!

[Autofire]

There's definitely the right and wrong way to defoliated. For a beginner grower like me it's just safer to not touch it especially when your growing autos. If you over defol at the wrong time and shock the plant your probably chopping your harvest in half. I've pulled my first 2 crops ever growing autos. I grew 2 plants the first run and had some deficiencies but still got a pound. Then on my second grow running cosmic bomb I grew 1 plant with no deficiencies and also got a pound. Both with no defol at all, just lst and scrog. I harvest the tops then let the middle buds ripen, harvest those then wait another week for the lower stuff to colour up before the final harvest. And my theory is that by letting it keep all its leaves it can still produce energy to fatten up the second and third harvests. So after hitting these numbers I'm kinda not inclined to change my growing style and try defol. I might lollipop the bottom 10% cause those little buds are a pain in the ass to trim. I've checked out other grow diaries running the same strains when the defol the fuck out of it and only pull an ounce or 2 so I'm pretty coniced that over defol kills off your weight
That's an amazing looking flower. Canna is such a beautiful plant in all of her many forms she chooses

 

[Autofire]

19/5 works for me. There a bit of science type info about that says the plant needs the dark cycle to complete other processes

Does anyone here go 24 all the way?

 

[derek420colorado]

19/5 works for me. There a bit of science type info about that says the plant needs the dark cycle to complete other processes

Does anyone here go 24 all the way?

Yep there is science that says they don’t

 

[derek420colorado]

Yep there is science that says they don’t

Lol sorry that sounded crappy. I meant yep I run 24/0 and there is science that says they don’t need rest. Specifically auto flowering cannabis. Not other types of plants but specifically autos, I haven’t seen any actual science. When I say there is science says 25/0 works best is just bro science lol. But imo it’s brains plus science. Put The two together and you can formulate an logical conclusion.

here is a post I just made in my thread when asked about my light schedule and philosophy as to why. It’s a little long but I think worth it when it comes to the argument ofa 24/0 schedule.

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I have never grown autos under anything but 24/0. The only downsides I see to 24/0 would be for indoor growers. Those would be A.) a heat issue, where you need to turn the lights off during a hot part of the day. And B.)If you are worried about electricity cost and need to limit the amount of time your lights are on.

when it comes to growing autos I see zero disadvantages to running a 24 hour light cycle. Here’s why:

Autoflowering cannabis is in existence in nature due to where it grows. Because ruderalis that grows above a certain latitude doesn’t have the benefit of a gradually changing season,like we do below like Siberia and Alaska, it has to flower automatically. Now of course we all know that part. But here’s the thing in nature where these grow the lights( the sun) basically Comes on one day and stays on for anywhere from 60-90 days. Now it doesn’t stay with direct sunlight or anything I totally get That. But they NEVER get total darkness in nature Especially not for 4-6 hours.

these babies are built for speed! All it wants to do is grow and do sex before the first freeze, which up in them parts can Happen as early as like the end of august. So technically the most nature mimicked light cycle would be a twilight period of about an hour in the morning and an hour at night. But there are points in the summer up there where it is alllmost directish light 24 hours straight. So I know they nor only can handle it but thrive it it.
What I have noticed with having both natural and artificial light is that they seem to kind of get “tired” after 12ish hours of either one and then just about the time they are gettin worn out, they get hit with the other source of light and recharge as if they had been in darkness for several hours. It’s honestly badass to see and really interesting. And you really do get the yield and great colors of the outdoor world, while all the look and dense mugs of indoor. Best of both worlds.

I definitely have my sound reasoning for basically everything I do grow wise and if someone asks I will definitely tell em my philosophy haha”

 

[Autofire]

Good to know you've run 24 and can give good reports on it. The only way to know how well something works is by trying it out.

Before I started I read up heaps on the best light schedule for autos. I Think I went with 19/5 because I had advice from somebody who had tried them all 24, 18/6, 19/5, 24/6 and he reckoned he got the best results using 19/5.

But unless you can control every other variable in your grow you would never really know. You could get varying results from different phenos

 

[Autofire]

Can anybody point me towards a thread which covers the breeding of your own auto seeds?

 

[derek420colorado]

I read that as well. Do you run 24?

Yes, I am the one who wrote the post lol I wrote it on my wall yesterday. This is my own personal theory/philosophy that I have developed over the years of growing them and research

 

[Autofire]

I wrote that before your next reply popped up bro

 

[derek420colorado]

Can anybody point me towards a thread which covers the breeding of your own auto seeds?

What would you like to know? @Fitzy dkes some breeding and so does @Boognelson87 @pop22 I think knows everything there is to know about cannabis so he’s always a great resource. But yeah whudda you wanna know, here is Fitzy’s current breeding project and here is boog’s

 

[derek420colorado]

I wrote that before your next reply popped up bro

Lol gotcha