...Papaver Somniferum(The Opium Poppy) Growing...

[OldGuy]

I grow poppies to make opium. I grow indoors & outdoors. I use the whole plant to make my tar, I've also found I would rather ingest it insted of smokeing it. It is a delicate flower to grow.

Heck yeah Smashed.... My afgani whites did pretty well this year. about 50 or so pods. Next year I going for a few hundred.

 

[surffreak23]

Cheers! It's good to see others that are interested in this! I myself have had experience with poppies since I was a wee one, as my neighbors were "licensed" botanists with permits to grow P. Somniferum along with many other normally illegal plants and mushrooms... What strain is that you have there Smashed? also wondering what type of extraction method you use for that tar?

 

[SmashedbyHashish]

Persian blues is what those are...

I use a food processor a grind them up (still green,2 weeks after bloom) w/ water, alow to soak for 8hrs. Strain (I prefer my hash screen) & sqeeze into a large surface pan. Now you got 2 choices, allow to naturally evaperate or use a hair dryer. I had read this guys journal on a poppy forum & he had argued that the whole plant had the alkaloids. After feeding the leaves, roots, & seeds to his test rabbits each one tested positive w/ in 24hrs for opiates. Figured I would take advantage of the info & use the whole plant. Sides, makeing those little cuts & scrapeing sux...lol

 

[roadsidevendor1]

ahhh reminds me of the old days when my gramma would grind one to mush in her morter and pestle . then used the mash on our teeth ...she called it pear-gore-iac i think.a little foggy on the process though it's been 50 years ago. i do remember we would get the dried pods and shake them and pretend we were rattlesnakes. are we talking about the same flower?

 

[SmashedbyHashish]

ahhh reminds me of the old days when my gramma would grind one to mush in her morter and pestle . then used the mash on our teeth ...she called it pear-gore-iac i think.a little foggy on the process though it's been 50 years ago. i do remember we would get the dried pods and shake them and pretend we were rattlesnakes. are we talking about the same flower?

Yes sir!

 

[surffreak23]

I have never grown Persian blues myself as I try to stay with mostly large pod varieties, but I love the White Afghans which produce a similar sized pod as the Persians... I noticed smashed that you cut them 2 weeks after flower, if you wait 1-2 weeks longer the alkaloid content can double and sometimes triple in post flower weeks 3 and 4, so you might try it and see if your potency goes way up... Having no experience personally with Persians I can only assume they work like most other Somniferums... I cut my pods green after about 28 days and wow...

 

[surffreak23]

Update on the late poppies:
So I finally saw pods above the leaves today, although all of them except one have visible pods within them, got a ton of rain and that slowed them way down. Either way these flowers are happy with many of the stems already exceeding 1/2 inch, and it seems I have all four varieties from my mix, being pepperbox, hens and chicks, white afghans and gigantheum! As you can see in the pics there was virtually no time for them to go through a full cabbage stage, (no leaves on the ground only on the stem) but they're growing up quickly to compensate.

 

[NC420]

Beautiful:clap:

I need to get some pictures up myself...

Fell free to join in if you have some poppies to show off...

 

[SmashedbyHashish]

Very nice, shouldn't be long now! I've got some I was getting ready to take them but on you recomendation I'll leave em another 2weeks.

 

[surffreak23]

I would at least try it on a few pods and see if you notice the difference on some pod cut opium, The biggest difference in formation besides alkaloid content however, is that you will get very nice, fully formed seed. I know you use the whole plant and I'm not disagreeing that the seeds also contain active alkaloids, but the amount is so small you'd be better off taste and potency wise to leave them out and use them instead for your next crop. The seeds contain a lot of oil that makes smoking the unrefined tar unpleasant... Drill the tops and empty the seed to dry before throwing it in the food processor... By the way a great indicator (rule of thumb not science) of how ripe the pods are is what the crown looks like. As the pods shed their petals and start to swell, the crown will eventually start to curl and point upward, almost pointing at the sky at max potency... Again this is a rule of thumb and different strains will react slightly differently...