Hey guys, nice thread, i read everything, and jeez, there is some good techniques, I loves brambles and other biting bushes styles, deffinetly gonna try it, I have huge fields in forest which parts was cut, grown by blackberries and mostly raspberries. I once succesfully grown 30cm dwarfs in old gravel quarry sides, with near water and nature starting to reclaiming it. I also noticed that in the forest where have been done tree cuttings, theres watter soaking from the ground, so I was thinking to do some project there with swamp tube technique, if I will manage not to leave trails up there. Other thing I thought about that, that It would be nice to plant it in the sides of gravel quarry in the middle is water and the sides of it taken by thorns, the problem is there is one shore where people getting they summer water swims.