Indoor Organic-experimental-tobacco&more-lowWatt-0maintenance(?)-12/12-breeding-outdoor-etc.

[Peacefulgarden]

I don’t even know what’s going on anymore. Here is my most healthy looking plant, outside , freezing nearly at night, same soil as everything thing else but never watered with tap water, only rain water

here it is on my new soil mix, not positive ph of it yet but my guess is it’s higher than what I was after.

Pulled apart the tent again, to empty the autopots

gonna turn up the lights and the fans to help dry everything so it will dry faster and get watered with lower ph water and the medium ph dropped

May have misspoke, Just tested some of my soil that I watered into a pot with tap and I might be right where I want to be. Also got to add some things into my mix this time that I didn't get to last time, so very happy about that. Gonna do some more testing tomorrow.

Note to self, for the last time: Don't believe the internet or anything really, test for myself.

I think my new mix is a tad lower than I want it, which is good news, I thought it wouldn't get low enough. Got 1 more bag of the 420 soil, it's ph7 (lul), so I just need to I think with that I should be right where I want to be. All the mixing is good exercise too.

Also, no dolomite lime added this time and the total volume of soil has about doubled. No idea what I will do with it all.

A couple of new additions in my mix are sparalina, kelp, iodine, beneficial amino acids, vitamin b, vitiman c, tree bark , tree mulch (redwood and cypress), moss, a little black strap molasse and I can't recall what else. Edit to say I put some dried weed leaf in there also, few handfuls

The part I'm most unsure of at the moment is what to do with all my plants in high ph soil, want to get them into new soil with good ph, so i can water everything with same ph...

 

[Peacefulgarden]

What’s in store today? Always some bullshit.

just gonna run through the pics

after doing some thinking, I decided to go to 6.0 ph final mix. This way, I ph my water to 6, and the soil should always stay there. That’s my theory, I do expect some fluctuations but not much and it is always changing, even if my meter can’t tell

there it is, calibrated this pen at least a few times today, learn to pour my cal solution into a glass, cover after use and save for next time. Was just using once, maybe twice before, now I’m gonna use it till I suspect a problem. Either that or buy cal solution every 5 min

New and favorite addition to my soil mix, pomegranate and apple juice. 5,00-1,000 ml I guess

collected some apples, apple seeds and pomegranate seeds. Gonna eat the apples and try to grow the seeds and plant or give them away.

forgot I had a bottle of this, dumped it on the soil mix

testing.

mixing

testing(?) lul

Some really exciting news. Naturally, after buying rope, realized I had this (synthetic though), rope and it wicks so amazingly... had a few inches of water in the bottom of a Home Depot bucket, there were signs of moisture in like 20 minutes at the top of the bucket. Even way faster than my glorified wicking cord. Want to get everything dialed in yet, then will start hooking plants up. Gonna put 2 ropes per pot, pretty confident in this rope and I don’t ever recall saying that

Working on getting all the plants in the middle down to 6.0 ph, watered everything this morning with 5.0ph water or so and this evening the only reallly bad ph was Curly, maybe 2 curly? Gonna do the same tomorrow if they are dry enough. Didn’t see final ph after but no way it’s below or at 6 yet is my guess.

think I did get a few of the younger ones in big pots to 6.0. Less 7.0ph + tap waterings means the ph rose less meaning easier to fix. All the non cannabis plants as well, really seems to have made a difference, even in just a few hours I could notice.

mixed a bucket of 6.0 to water anything at or near 6.0 with.

topped curly also couldn’t stand looking at that trash anymore

Edit to say, for sure 2 curlys, back middle, topped one to the left.

Also, test what ph to water with on first watering to have medium perfect 6.0 ph, in small pot ASAP, old dumb bithc

 

[Peacefulgarden]

Hi

made new diy set up to try so coco on salt nutes again, call it the portable pot, 2 plans version.

Parts

Assembled

seeds and nutes for grow, top watered the seeds ph’ed tap ~20ml just to get them going before the system gets water to them

only nutes I will be using start to finish

Ph and ec of nutrient solution for entire grow ~1.3 nutes after ~0.4 ec tap water. Vitamin c for ph down. Just mix in this container, then dump in res.

Other stuff

Organic coco germination

Backyard dirt germination

 

[Peacefulgarden]

Got the new watering cord hooked up to a few plants now, see how it goes. Watering with 5.7 ph now on everything and all the backwards growing has seemed to stop and even curly is uncurling a bit. Think I may pollenate a few locations on a few plants

below is the Hopi sacred tobacco, trying to roll a home grown blunt

 

[DCLXVI]

Quite the assortment. Neat setup you have going with the cords. Works well?

 

[Peacefulgarden]

Quite the assortment. Neat setup you have going with the cords. Works well?

hi thanks

Nothing has worked well yet but I believe it is about to start. Been messing around for at least a month with cord that is to small or that doesn’t wick well enough. Also bad ph recommendations.

got some cord now that I tested and it should be working really well. going back to old ph’ing methods as of a couple days ago and already can see the difference in all the plants, some beat so bad it will take them a while to come back though.

so hope in a week or two I can give a simple ‘yes’ for an answer to your question.

This is what I used to go by and what I will go by again. 6.0 falls into optimum for soil and hydro. Didn’t look into it enough when I move over to organic soil just recently and it has caused a mess

 

[Peacefulgarden]

Been doing some thinking, trying to recall old number, I used to be on ppm (500 scale), at 700 final mix, including the tap. Soo, pretty sure I made my water to high for my ‘portable pot’, and I’m going to bring it back to 1.3 ec, final mix. Start to finish. not sure if anyone one knows ‘Homebrewer’ from another site, but he is the one that got me started using that (700), ppm along with ‘dynagro foliage pro’, a while back. He did a test, one bottle of dynagro vs 3 bottles of general hydro or similar, for comparison. Dynagro won iirc, but it’s been a while now.

DrBruce Bugabee also suggest the same, saying ~1.3ec optimal for cannabis and he grows weed for nasa. He also says something along the lines of 5.5 pH ph medium is near optimal for cannabis but that is also taking into consideration the ph of his nutrient water which I can’t recall the ph on, might browse through the video now and try to find it. And I don’t think he actually states a number (for pH), by itself, with nothing else to consider.



shortly after the 35 minute mark is when he talks about his growing medium iirc and afaik he has switched it up a little since then though I didn’t hear of him changing ec. He also suggest ‘jack’s 2-1-2’ general fertilizer or similar, only, start to finish.

 

[Peacefulgarden]

update on the madness.

wanted to see how ‘first watering’ pH, effects the ‘pH of the medium So trying to get some dirt to dry. Bad time of the year for this, may be a while.
wanted to see how ‘first watering’ pH, effects the ‘pH of the medium So trying to get some dirt to dry. Bad time of the year for this, may be a while.

plants outside before going in.

porti pot leaking. Just a little, was gonna say I was going to put some caulkingaround it but then thought just now, maybe I can just push the hos is a little more. We’ll see

That’s all

just realize I need to make this easy to find

Underdawg & Royal x skunk pollen nov. 2nd

Unknown and northern lights pollen Dec. 8

Red mandarin pollen nov 15

 

[Peacefulgarden]

Is this the shit show that never ends? Yes

My new soil mix, the ph has dropped below 5, I kinda suspected it to drop since all the wood chips I put but I was thinking also, the peat wasn’t very damp at the time, so that may be helping it drop also. I definitely didn’t expect it to drop so much though.

After cursing at a few random objects, did a quick test with some dolomite lime I remembered I had and that stuff, just a small amount, really impressive. I think using that I can dial in the pH exactly where I want with not much effort. Gonna start with just few gallon batches and see how it goes. I have high hopes.

unsure how it will behave over time, hope it will stay good over the period of a grow.

for me, new best method for testing soil pH, jamb a pot full of soil tightly, water slowly till runoff, test runoff. Ideal if start and endnumbers match and the are target pH.

hope tomorrow I will have my soil dialed in tomorrow, for reals. I’m kinda interested in seeing how plants that have been beat to shit will respond to something decent

soil notes- 5 gallons. 5.7 pH water.

Edit: to say the lime continued to rise the pH over ~24 hours, possibly longer. All the ‘lime needed’ numbers should be cut in ~half.

soil 5.1 pH start

add 1/4 cup lime pH 5.2 (1/8 @ 24 hours)

add 1/2 cup (3/4 cup total) pH 5.4 (1/4@24 hours)

add 3/4 cup (1.5 cup total) pH5.9 (3/8 @ 24 hours).

7.1 tap water runoff 6.1 (almost make me feel like a runoff test is pretty darn good soil pH test).

Good

Tomorrow came today. Above is my notes raising pH with dolomite lime. Seems between 1/8 and 1/4 cup per point (0.1) with 5 gallons of my soil. That doesn’t sound right at the moment but always go to the lower end for sake of not adding to much. Can always add more.

I used 4 spots on 6 cell seedling tray. Soil from different spots in the 5 gallons testing runoff. Water in is 5.7 pH

Gonna recheck pH in an hour or so

one hour 5.9 pH with tap, 5.9 pH with 5.7


I think I can make my soil 5.6 and water with tap. Hopefully just add another gallon of low pH soil to this and it will be good.

added 3 gallons of soil to bring runoff to 5.85 with tap water (7.0). Retest 1 hour. Retest also test with 5.7 water. Reasons, also using coco for some plants and supposedly vit. C good for chloramine (look into (public ~personal notes)).

edit. At a 1/8 ratio Epsom salt brought pH down 0.2pH. I had 1 cup of soil and 1/16 cup salt and it came down 0.2pH. This was immediate runoff/squeeze test. I think it will come down slightly more after Epsom starts dissolving more.
At 16 cups per gallon - 1 gallon soil, 1 cup Epsom salt per 0.1 point? I actually think it’s 0.2pHI’m just being dumb and I think it should drop more.

Gonna test on a gallon of soil later, no rush since I have no need for it currently. If it does drop even a couple more points, then I think it may be a great option to lower pH for a plant that is already in a pot or in the ground.

 

[Peacefulgarden]

I think best option to bring soil/medium pH down is to just amend the soil with Epsom salts/salt of some sort. I never hear of people doing it for pH but I was just doing some testing and it does bring pH down .

Gonna wait for tomorrow to test some more testing I.e. how much needed to bring a gallon of soil 1.0 pH. and how easy it washes out and how much run off waterings does it last for. For someone watering with little to not much runoff or bottom feeding, I imagine it may be good for a little while.

edit to say best option to bring medium ph down after its ~’to late’, already plant in pot. Even then, probably ‘Heavy’ (some root damage’, amend with correct pH soil ‘still better’