Indoor Mz.W's perpetual grow...grow journal

[Anthropolis]

Hahaa I like your ramblings. I haven't figured out the light ratio either yet... But I think I read that the Sun outputs like 70~100w per sq foot at the ground depending on altitude. So a perfect grow would equal or surpass that. It could be genetics and experience too, my yield with low quality seeds and no experience was horrible lol, but is improving quickly. Are ya using 5 gal pots now? I'm almost convinced that 5gal or bigger is needed for the big strains, but that's judging from what I've seen and read. Anyways hope ya get it sorted

 

[Eyes on Fire]

yeah imo sounds like your rambling(j/k) LMFAO!! But bring up a valid point no doubt.I too noticed that when I did my first indoor grows under CFL solely.got an oscar per plant roughly.but if you have a 250 HID with the blue n reds specs and change them as per required if ya wanna do that with some side lighting from your cfl's too you should be golden for a dual grow for two plants in 2 #5 pots for example.sounds like you have enough lighting for a cpl ounces per plant if you have decent yeilding genetics imo.

if you have the space i personally would get a T5 and some number 5 pots.what type of strains are you interested in?i would be happy to look at them n give ya a cpl ideas at what to grow maybe..? 2 decent yielding plants and a few things n id bet you have you cpl ounce a plant Id think.

You stagger your grows a lil i take it?well for what its worth,i think that imho you should start a whole new grow as one.two plants under all your lights as they fill out and with some decent genetics that yield atleast 60 grams or so,Im betting you'd get that yield you want..what (might i ask)are your expectations?with two plants something like three to five ounces of a sativa dom auto??

 

[wheredaweedat]

yeah imo sounds like your rambling(j/k) LMFAO!! But bring up a valid point no doubt.I too noticed that when I did my first indoor grows under CFL solely.got an oscar per plant roughly.but if you have a 250 HID with the blue n reds specs and change them as per required if ya wanna do that with some side lighting from your cfl's too you should be golden for a dual grow for two plants in 2 #5 pots for example.sounds like you have enough lighting for a cpl ounces per plant if you have decent yeilding genetics imo.

if you have the space i personally would get a T5 and some number 5 pots.what type of strains are you interested in?i would be happy to look at them n give ya a cpl ideas at what to grow maybe..? 2 decent yielding plants and a few things n id bet you have you cpl ounce a plant Id think.

You stagger your grows a lil i take it?well for what its worth,i think that imho you should start a whole new grow as one.two plants under all your lights as they fill out and with some decent genetics that yield atleast 60 grams or so,Im betting you'd get that yield you want..what (might i ask)are your expectations?with two plants something like three to five ounces of a sativa dom auto??

Hey. Eyes.
"Swivel"
haha and I mean that in the nicest way possible lol
See, only my very first grow was done with solely CFL. Then we got a 250w MH/HPS, but only one ballast. So the plan then turned to, ok so I'll plant one, let it veg for 2 weeks under the CFL. Start germinating another and after all is said and done and Ive got a new baby, the first plant will be ready to be switched to the other side of the closet, which has the HPS. Then repeat the process.
Do I think I'd have relatively better results starting 2 plants at the same time and using the MH to veg then switching to the HPS and then letting them finish before starting a new plant? Perhaps. But I still feel like we're underestimating the size of the closet....and I know its exact measurements lol So I feel like unless I can cover evvvverrryyyy inch of the closet with mylar and manage to keep it pristine, Id just need a smaller closet/area.
This took me 30 minutes to do, so if you don't appreciate my 4th grader MS Paint skills, then, once again - "Swivel" lol
But I made you a diagram so you can see just how it's been set up and fire some suggestions my way, perhaps..


Speaking for the boyfriend AND myself, I don't think we want to invest in different lights. We literally just got this one with the interchangeable socket or whatever for going from MH to HPS. Plus, at this point we've got ourselves quite a collection of red and blue spec CFL's roughly equaling 250 (actual) watts. And we've got extension cords, power strips and sockets coming from our ears lol. So new/different lights are essentially out of the question for the time being...at least until the yield starts paying me back for giving it life. DAMMIT. :roflcry:
No, really though lol Theres times where I harvest and wonder why I just wasted the last 3 months on this plant, that's only going to give me, if i'm lucky, 2 weeks worth of ganj. Because depending on the strain, I can go through 10 grams a week. And when, on average, I'm only pulling 14 grams per plant....lol. Its a little disheartening.

Which brings me to your last questions - what types of strains am I looking for, and what are my expectations yield-wise.
I didn't think my expectations were high. But I would think, that by this point in my experience with growing, that I could grow in a 5 gallon bucket and pull a good deal over a zip per plant....however, lol. I have yet to do that. This last AA was just over an O at 33grams or something of the like, and that was the one and only time I got (slightly over) an ounce. but like I/we said - it might have more to do with genetics then I'm taking into consideration. Isn't yield a big part of the reason why people swore against autos, when they were first gaining popularity?
Because for an extra month or so with a photo-period plant you could, for all intents and purposes, triple your yield? And the way I understand it, is that sure. Back when they first started mass producing autos, they didn't have all the kinks worked out, if you will lol and so plants stayed small, weren't very potent, and the yield sucked. But now-a-days that is no longer the case. And when I ordered the beans, i really had no clue about anything and was just ordering stuff that sounded good LOL. didn't even look up strain reviews and/or grow journals really. and the outcome of that is I ended up ordering nothing but first generation autoflowers lol. so yea- it might just be that the beginning genetics on the particular strains I got aren't great and thats why Im not seeing the results I want.
But even still....there's something that won't let me get over the amount of light vs light distribution vs the amount of space thing....BAH.

As for types of strains....I don't know that I have a preference as far as indica vs sativa goes really.... But regardless, it absolutely must must must be diesel-esque lol. Idk what the particular terp. is that makes strains like sour diesel and headband smell so.....fucking attractive. Like....I've gotten headband on a few occasions where one bag smelled...idk stronger.. and I swear to you - just smelling it was almost enough for me lol is there an auto headband?

BALLS.
I need to go look that up now lol

 

[Eyes on Fire]

Yer too kind

Awww I know ya mean it sooo nicely tooo.thats soooo sweeeeet "Swivel""Swivel" :smoke:

Yeah I hear ya Ms W,truly.sounds like where I was at a few years ago to be honest.short of the HID,since I went T5 instead but,yup.that sounds very familiar LOL!!

Well imo strains will do you the best since you have a light thats stronger as a taller light source than a wide light source.so in turn your best bet is to get a strain er two that are tall,verses the really wide ones.like grape Muerta,RQS Jack herer,Haze 2.0,LFD,Barney's pineapple express or RQS Diesel too.and i dont know what type of pots ya gots but I would try to get atleast a 3 to 3.5 true gallon pot(s) that are taller than wide.thats why actual #5 pots work so perfectly.especially for you.you need to good plan ts in a small space and #5's lend to that really really well too.

so if I were you ,Id get 2 pots n plant the taller 50-70 m2 or better strains and just tuck yer leaves and I see no reason why your shouldnt grab close to an oscar on each plant. but in organics,#5 pots or similar and 250W HID with CFL side lighting.sounds like a perfect plan if ya ask me mang.

and imo if yer doing organic(i cant recall I recall you were doing that at one time..?) and 3-4 gallon pots n mylar all you need are some good genetics and if yer a diesel fan i would try RQS diesel.but grape muerta is good and a taller plant and smooth smoke.not a very heavy D though.RQS jack herer and HSO blue dream auto are very much awesome and i would look into them a lot.tall and good yeilder too.especially the BD auto from HSO. I just got an ounce of my haze 2.0 and they were a messed up grow too,and totally not diesel at all but try the tangelo rapido too. beautiful strain and tall and a solid yielder too. but under a 250 HID with spectrum bulbs too, with decent soil Im not sure why yer yeild has been a lil on the low side. Im guessin yer temp n all have been ok..hows yer soil if I may ask?sounds like ya been doing good,just smaller yeilds is all."AFN smoke out"

 

[Dazed]

Short Stuff Himalaya Blue Diesel is a great short strain,

 

[Eyes on Fire]

Yeah its about the taller strains like BD auto,Grape Muerta,tangelo,RQS jack herer n the like...LFD..is that one like that?Ive not grown that one.She has a taller light source than a wide one.

edit: yeah I was thinking bout it and if your using that whole closet,imo you need to bust a move n get buckled up into a comfy sized corner n hang you mylar,set ya yer fans n CO2 or whatever n do a grow a lil more confined rather than spread.you can also(watch for heat changes n air flow) cover the floor with Mylar and stick a fan low for air circulation too.and under one light in a 5 gallon bucket,I would grow one large fem bean that something you wanna try thats a larger yeilder.even a photo if ya want too.

 

[Anasazi]

She's baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaack!


Mornin' AFN
Back from my Hanson Disney World extravaganza..I'll save that for the end and let the suspense kill you mua ha ha
I know you all missed my endless rants, and couldn't WAIT for my return. Well wait no more fellow growers, wait no more haha.

Auto Acid has been treating me well over the last few weeks. Not even sure how long its been since we chopped her, buuut...she's just about gone at this point lol. Cleaned out the grow room yesterday, vacuumed and organized all the crap that was floating around in there lol. I'm going to re-hang all the mylar as well. The walls in there are so fucked from the mess of duct tape, staples and push pins lol. This time though, I fully intend on using velcro to hang it lol.
And I've been thinking about just doing one girl at a time instead of 3 because of that whole light situation I was rambling about before I left lol.
I really feel like the amount of light and/or light intensity isnt the problem though. I think that the area we're growing in is too big and wasn't covered in mylar well enough so any light that the plant could be getting is just bouncing and hitting an area that wasn't reflecting back to the plant. Does that make sense?
Im high leave me alone lol.
I also reaallly need to figure out a convenient way to water the plants without them spewing water out all over the carpet lol. Because now that I refuse to grow in anything less than a 5+ gallon pot (lol) once the plant starts getting sizeable, it gets really hard for me to pick it up. And after it's watered? Forget about it. So transporting across the hall to the bathroom and back to the closet, to water them in the tub is basically out of the question. For a while I was using towels to sop up the water, but as you can imagine that was just as messy...and screwed a whole bunch of towels lol.
Idk I'll have to talk to Kurt. See what he thinks.

And now, the moment you've all been waiting for... lol

Vacation was spec-fucking-tacular. Though there were a few hiccups in the beginning.
Prolly a week before we left, K's dad sent him an email asking if I would mind making some of my delectable candy treats for his Corvette Club charity thing. So the night before we left I had just finished making 32 bags of Pumpkin Pie Oreo Truffles (BEFORE I knew that there were actual pumpkin pie oreos lol) and Very Berry Oreo Truffles, and at this point, I feel I deserve to sit in front of my tv on the couch, with a packed bowl to my left and a big ole plate of pumpkin pie truffles to my right LOL- faaaaaaaaaaaaaaat. Well the pumpkin pie truffles were coated in white chocolate and I went OOOOH I KNOW! I'll make them look like pumpkins! How clever of me! So I coat the top half in orange nonpareil candies with a little green dot on the top.
I bite into one, start chewing, and BAM. I broke a molar. FUCKING NONPAREILS ARE YOU KIDDIN ME?! lol
So now I'm in a disgusting amount of pain so I get some temporary filling stuff at walgreens and immediately email my dentist telling him what happened and that I absolutely HAVE to see him before I leave for vacation the next afternoon by 3pm. And when I email the dentist someone ALWAYS calls me back as soon as they see it.. Lies.
Now granted it was Friday, but dear lord, how many people could have EMAILED THE DENTIST? lol
So we're forced to continue on with vacation with nothing but this temporary filling. But I actually felt 100% better until halfway through the drive I had ANOTHER tooth start throbbing, out of nowhere. So we decided to just see a dentist in FL so I wasnt in pain the entire vacation. 2 root canals later, vacation started lol.
Turned out, we somehow got a free upgrade on the place we were staying. Very similar style, but a whole lot cooler lol. Instead of the killer 3bedroom 2bathroom with private pool place we were going to stay at, turns out we were staying in a 4 bedroom 3bathroom with a bigger private pool AND hot tub. AND game room. Like...no shit air hockey, foozeball table, little mini pool table...fucking sweet. View attachment 388439View attachment 388434View attachment 388435View attachment 388436View attachment 388438
There was however a downside here if you can believe it.
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HO-LEE SHIT!! WHAT IN THE FUCK THIS IS THE BIGGEST SPIDER I'VE EVER SEEEEEEEEEEEN!! Terrifying. Absolutely Terrifying.

The Hanson show was spectacular. I don't think there would've been a bad seat in the house, but of course I made him get reserved seating with an $80 a plate dinner package at Epcot lmfao :roflcry:
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this ^^^was from the very back of the seating area from almost as far away as you could be standing lol So even without the dinner package, would have still had a great view of the stage lol.
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But. No, really. it's not funny lol but we both laughed at how small the area the were playing was but figured the dinner package was worth it in the long run, cause we ate GOOD lol. I wish we'd taken pictures there cause it was the coolest Japanese place....*side note- did you know that Disney hires college kids from around the world to work in their respective countries at Epcot to make them seem/feel more authentic? I thought that was so cool. Until the hostess opened her mouth and I couldn't make out anything but 'sank oo' lol But K said the sushi was almost as good as it was when he was in actual Japan lol. It was certainly the best sushi I'd ever had..and there was SO much of it lol Ain't no China Buffet here bitches! lol K made me order a Sake-Rita cause he read reviews that it was awesome. I took a tiny sip and gave it to him. No thank you, Sake-Rita. You can have that lol. Everytime I drink something that has alcohol in it, whether its beer or a mixed drink, wine whatever. I tend to question how in the world alcoholics exist lol. Alcohol is the foulest tasting shit, I don't know how people can drink it.
View attachment 388451 mmm....hops, lol. those clever boys I didn't try it, but K did. this was our conversation lol
he said "Wow."
me "Whassat?"
him "Them boys sure know how to brew a good beer."
me "Oh yea?"
him "Yea...*drinks* it's actually really good. Reminds me a bit of dogfish head. *drinks* yeah... If I went to buy beer and I saw Dogfish Head and Mmmhops, I'd be forced to buy two 6packs."
lol <33

For some reason I read all of this lol. I hope you figure out your grow room problems! I definitely think the size of the area plays a big role with light. I actually changed tents for my 2nd grow. Got something taller with a smaller foot print. ;D

 

[wheredaweedat]

For some reason I read all of this lol.

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha, suckaaaaaa!! Another one bites the dust!
I'm completely kidding, I appreciate you reading the entire thing. And I'll tell ya what. You are now in a very elite club my friend. Your membership card, complete with scratch and sniff sticker, will arrive in 4-6 weeks

 

[Anasazi]

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha, suckaaaaaa!! Another one bites the dust!
I'm completely kidding, I appreciate you reading the entire thing. And I'll tell ya what. You are now in a very elite club my friend. Your membership card, complete with scratch and sniff sticker, will arrive in 4-6 weeks

I'm honored. You're awesome. ;D

 

[wheredaweedat]

getting ready for another bean order

I'd like some AFN input before I do though.

I don't wanna use Dr. Green seeds again...not because I was unhappy (necessarily), but because the selection isn't as big in the area I was looking for.
SO..with that being said - I started looking into different seed banks. The first one I came across, that I was familiar with, was the original ssc. And they accept bitcoin, which is a prerequisite lol. I haven't really looked into any other ones, at least not yet. And the selection of diesel autos is pretty solid.
if i do end up going with the ossc, the strains Im considering are -

Amphetamine by Cream of the Crop seeds which is a NYC Diesel cross
Positronics Jack Diesel Express which is an Diesel Auto x Jack Diesel
Sour Diesel Auto by Humboldt seed

Anyone with input or experiences with the Original SSC OR the strains, please chime in lol