Indoor My take on PH management

[BigBuddha]

i am not sticking my private parts in there, without a good ph reading

How about if I paid extra.. would you do it then?

 

[TshirtNinja]

Not bad.. 4 pages later and so far nobody has addressed the challenge in the OP with any factual information.


And despite falsifiable facts to the contrary, there are still those who believe that one of the following statements is true:



Truly amazing.

there is no need to call someone else's info from personal experience false when you have no proof vs their situation either. im going to call you a troll and sign out of this thread as reading your posts now just irritate me. in the other thread you clarified with another person that my points were right when you kept dogging them.

Remember children

 

[Muddy]

As someone who has been helping new growers get started for a long time, the single biggest issue is see is incorrect pH. I've seen more plants stunted or ruined simply because the pH was incorrect and the grower had no reliable means of testing it. In many cases by the time they do go out and get a reliable pH tester the damage has already been done. So for new growers I always recommend a good pH meter and to monitor the pH throughout the grow. I find that understanding pH and it's effects on the plant go a long way to giving a new grower an understanding of what good growing is all about. So I encourage them to monitor it throughout the whole grow.

For more experienced growers pH monitoring through out the grow isn't always necessary, primarily because they have the knowledge and experience to pH their soil properly from the beginning and then only feed pH balanced nutrients. For a long time I amended my Pro Mix with worm castings, bone, blood and kelp meal and some epsom salts. The Pro Mix has a sufficient amount of lime added that no additional lime was needed. I could just mix and go, feed with rain water and never had any pH issues. I would spot check it from time to time and it was always in a desirable range. But any variations of the mix could cause it to change, so anytime I changed the mix I would again monitor it though out the grow.

Jackal and I have been experimenting with using the new AN pH Perfect nutes in straight, unamended Pro Mix. So far the indications are that when used with base water below a pH of 8 it works beautifully, maintaining the proper pH throughout the whole grow and producing outstanding results. Once we get a little more experience with it I believe we will have a pretty fool proof method for new growers to get up and running without the worry of continually monitoring pH.

 

[Eschatos]

You people smoke too much :smoke: im sorry i couldn't help it

You may have permanent ph probes in your pots, run-off trays, watering buckets, and up your b***, or you may don't know what ph is! Neither way is wrong, if your plants flourish you must be doing it right

 

[BigBuddha]

there is no need to call someone else's info from personal experience false when you have no proof vs their situation either.

But that's exactly my point, Tshirt. I'm one of the people who say that none of us are exclusively right or wrong. We're all wrong and right in our own grooms - that is, if we're growing good enough plants. If you think I'm saying that either side of that debate are individually wrong, I think you may be misunderstanding me somewhere along the line.

im going to call you a troll and sign out of this thread as reading your posts now just irritate me. in the other thread you clarified with another person that my points were right when you kept dogging them.

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Well there's really no need for that. It's clear you don't even understand what I'm saying (many others have) so calling me a troll is pretty shitty, and far more troll-like than a member debating an issue on PH.

I'm glad you're leaving the thread now because I'd rather it not be dragged into a stupid argument.

 

[Cave Dirt Cody]

As someone who has been helping new growers get started for a long time, the single biggest issue is see is incorrect pH. I've seen more plants stunted or ruined simply because the pH was incorrect and the grower had no reliable means of testing it. In many cases by the time they do go out and get a reliable pH tester the damage has already been done. So for new growers I always recommend a good pH meter and to monitor the pH throughout the grow. I find that understanding pH and it's effects on the plant go a long way to giving a new grower an understanding of what good growing is all about. So I encourage them to monitor it throughout the whole grow.

For more experienced growers pH monitoring through out the grow isn't always necessary, primarily because they have the knowledge and experience to pH their soil properly from the beginning and then only feed pH balanced nutrients. For a long time I amended my Pro Mix with worm castings, bone, blood and kelp meal and some epsom salts. The Pro Mix has a sufficient amount of lime added that no additional lime was needed. I could just mix and go, feed with rain water and never had any pH issues. I would spot check it from time to time and it was always in a desirable range. But any variations of the mix could cause it to change, so anytime I changed the mix I would again monitor it though out the grow.

Jackal and I have been experimenting with using the new AN pH Perfect nutes in straight, unamended Pro Mix. So far the indications are that when used with base water below a pH of 8 it works beautifully, maintaining the proper pH throughout the whole grow and producing outstanding results. Once we get a little more experience with it I believe we will have a pretty fool proof method for new growers to get up and running without the worry of continually monitoring pH.

I have also been working on the same thing muddy. Just not with AN nutes. I am using three nute lines. Dyna gro, flora nova and sea grow. All work with my tap water 6.6ph around 100ppm. The DG and sea grow will hit dead nutes 6.0, the flOranova I haven't tested in my tap water yet. It will hit 5.8 in distilled water.

 

[astronomy420a]

oh what a beautiful morning... oh what a beautiful day.. oh what a beautiful morning... everything's going my way!!

 

[BigBuddha]

oh what a beautiful morning... oh what a beautiful day.. oh what a beautiful morning... everything's going my way!!

Lol. I was thinking "who's that pretty girl in that window there.. what window where"


Goooozoozfrabba

 

[JM]

She'd see yeah cOming

no... I wear camo condoms... they never see me cumin!

Now as far as PH... I think muddy laid it out about right on for what i was thinking....

correct PH is neccesary for any good grow.... you may be lucky and get it right... or be experienced and no longer need a guideline..... personally... I'm a grower for over 20 years.... not just MJ... farming too.... and PH is one of the most important things for any plant... always!!!! very few plants have a tolerance range of the entire spectrum.

Dont believe me? ask a farmer.....


Or just think it out... different nutrients are taken up better at different ph levels... like if you only ate steak every day... you'd be lacking other nutrients....

 

[micro.grower]

I agree to a point. Being i have never once ph.d, i have learned to read my plants and adjust what they need from this. I.m not 100% correct by doing this, but it works for me. Apparently i have A+ tap water. Ha!