Indoor Mixed indoor bag - the good, the bad and the we'll wait and see.
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:smokebuds: many thanks folks. I hope everyone is keeping well
have been a bit slack on the updating (energy - where are you??!!)
I let Blueberry go an extra day than planned then an extended dark period and here she is after a quick trim and a cple days dry. Havent sampled any as yet as wanna make sure is properly dried and as much cure as I can.
Super glad to get this one in and ensure some good meds for the festive season. :dance:
Well, Ive been holding off on taking/posting pics of seedlings lately as they arent really photogenic and I was hoping to get my self sorted out so these latest attempts could be forgotten about but here we go...
bottom left is a photo, just a cple days old. Top right is Sour60 and believe it or not a month and 2 days old. Middle 2 are Blueberry - 18 days old. Left is a Jem - bout 20days old...
So, all are in coco coir (good quality - my wallet is still aching) with perlite. Been a mix of being in tent with 400w HPS and when that not on 130W Veg CFL. All have come up looking healthy and green and for the first few days with good roots and I've thought "ahhh, lovely, here we go" but then they just dont grow... I have made sure they have had Absolutely NO ferts just phd water (ok, the new ph pen is just recent so will be better to use to make sure PH is right but the old one I was using was pretty close.). At first I though I was overwatering but relaxing my water schedule hasnt overly helped either... All I can think of - and its somewhat counter intuitive - is that those that have grown on for more were mostly started in Jiffy cubes. This seems strange as Id think theyd prefer being started in cups and not have roots limited or transplant shock so Ill have to get some more cubes and see if that helps... bit annoying as theres been many other screw ups too so is costing a bit in electricity, coco, cost of seeds etc without the return and not ditching the dealer as soon as expected. Not complaining as is a learning process but I hope I can get happening soon.
Ive gotta take tent down for a while over the festive season anyway so Ill probably just plant these outside and see what happens and will also let a cple others finish up outside. So before I start indoor again Ill have to have a good long think about where Im going wrong and will try soil seedling mix etc etc.
have been a bit slack on the updating (energy - where are you??!!)
I let Blueberry go an extra day than planned then an extended dark period and here she is after a quick trim and a cple days dry. Havent sampled any as yet as wanna make sure is properly dried and as much cure as I can.
Super glad to get this one in and ensure some good meds for the festive season. :dance:
Well, Ive been holding off on taking/posting pics of seedlings lately as they arent really photogenic and I was hoping to get my self sorted out so these latest attempts could be forgotten about but here we go...
bottom left is a photo, just a cple days old. Top right is Sour60 and believe it or not a month and 2 days old. Middle 2 are Blueberry - 18 days old. Left is a Jem - bout 20days old...So, all are in coco coir (good quality - my wallet is still aching) with perlite. Been a mix of being in tent with 400w HPS and when that not on 130W Veg CFL. All have come up looking healthy and green and for the first few days with good roots and I've thought "ahhh, lovely, here we go" but then they just dont grow... I have made sure they have had Absolutely NO ferts just phd water (ok, the new ph pen is just recent so will be better to use to make sure PH is right but the old one I was using was pretty close.). At first I though I was overwatering but relaxing my water schedule hasnt overly helped either... All I can think of - and its somewhat counter intuitive - is that those that have grown on for more were mostly started in Jiffy cubes. This seems strange as Id think theyd prefer being started in cups and not have roots limited or transplant shock so Ill have to get some more cubes and see if that helps... bit annoying as theres been many other screw ups too so is costing a bit in electricity, coco, cost of seeds etc without the return and not ditching the dealer as soon as expected. Not complaining as is a learning process but I hope I can get happening soon.
Ive gotta take tent down for a while over the festive season anyway so Ill probably just plant these outside and see what happens and will also let a cple others finish up outside. So before I start indoor again Ill have to have a good long think about where Im going wrong and will try soil seedling mix etc etc.
You don't know how ashamed of myself I am for missing this one... **hangs head** Killer LST bro, haven't seen any done better! The color you got is outstanding! Hope those JEMs and Blueberry are being damn good to you! How do they taste? Just put 3 Dutch Passion Fem AutoBlueberry in the PT today so I hope mine come out looking as sweet as yours Matey!
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Stunted
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Nice bit of chop you have got yourself there Glaucoma, looks real nice 
From the looks of your other plants you have been taking advice from "Stunted", you have no idea how many of those stunted sticks I have made and I feel for ya man.
One thing, you need to be flushing with ferts from day 1 as your media has none in it at all (looks like a mix of Coco, Perlite and Hydroton). (some others would say use no nutes etc, but running 350ppm at the start has worked well for me)
I normally pre-flush my media with 350ppm grow nute mix before putting in a little sprout, then I flush morning and night with nutes and once a week they all get a big flush of plain PHed water.
Then each week the nute strength goes up keeping a close eye on the leaves for signs of nute burn.
And since you are in the same climate as me I am sure it would work well for you too.
What nutes are you using and what feeding schedule?
From the looks of your other plants you have been taking advice from "Stunted", you have no idea how many of those stunted sticks I have made and I feel for ya man.
One thing, you need to be flushing with ferts from day 1 as your media has none in it at all (looks like a mix of Coco, Perlite and Hydroton). (some others would say use no nutes etc, but running 350ppm at the start has worked well for me)
I normally pre-flush my media with 350ppm grow nute mix before putting in a little sprout, then I flush morning and night with nutes and once a week they all get a big flush of plain PHed water.
Then each week the nute strength goes up keeping a close eye on the leaves for signs of nute burn.
And since you are in the same climate as me I am sure it would work well for you too.
What nutes are you using and what feeding schedule?
glaucoma
it's our choice...
hey west - hope your keeping well mate.
havent smoked the blueberry as yet but am definetely looking forward to it. really enjoyed the Jem - Im crap at assigning tastes but was a very smooth smoke. neither of the two are/were over stinky - still got a green o matic growing away which is a lot stinkier when touched and the Moby Dick photo is the stinkiest (almost hospitally/chemicalish) and stickiest. Ive gotta move them all outside for a bit so will have to try and position the MobyDick as best as possible to continue the 12/12 light, will try and snap a pic befre she goes outside. Hope your autoBBs go well!! I really like the Dutch Passion stuff Ive grown (my BB here is also DPassion) - I just wished they had regular available as would rather use those for pollinating and cant really afford to keep buying fem seeds at moment.
Stunted - careful mate, I might have to steal your name!! Lots more as well as these have gone the same way so will definetely try the low dose feeding from the start to get some guts into the coco. My feeding schedule, hhmm well, the seedlings above havent made it into the schedule at all really as have been trying to keep nute free untill sex but can see why not such a good idea in the "empty" coco. Those that have made it too feeding usually get a 1/4 strength grow feed at sex then mainly onto the MonstaBud for flower nutes with some grow nutes here and there as well as seasol. I havent been feeding by days, rather I have been trying to see when the plants look like need a feed but will and be more organised on the next run and keep to a schedule so I know where I and they should be at. All in all Ive been trying to be as light handed as possible with nutes so as to not overdo it but obviously I can afford a bit more in there since the coco is void of any of its own food etc. Just to play around, Ive put a cple in soil seed raising mix outside in the last few days and they seem to be doing well so when I start next proper indoor run Ill prob try some in soil and some in coco to see how they go. I'll get there eventually - no matter how many I stunt along the way!!
havent smoked the blueberry as yet but am definetely looking forward to it. really enjoyed the Jem - Im crap at assigning tastes but was a very smooth smoke. neither of the two are/were over stinky - still got a green o matic growing away which is a lot stinkier when touched and the Moby Dick photo is the stinkiest (almost hospitally/chemicalish) and stickiest. Ive gotta move them all outside for a bit so will have to try and position the MobyDick as best as possible to continue the 12/12 light, will try and snap a pic befre she goes outside. Hope your autoBBs go well!! I really like the Dutch Passion stuff Ive grown (my BB here is also DPassion) - I just wished they had regular available as would rather use those for pollinating and cant really afford to keep buying fem seeds at moment.
Stunted - careful mate, I might have to steal your name!! Lots more as well as these have gone the same way so will definetely try the low dose feeding from the start to get some guts into the coco. My feeding schedule, hhmm well, the seedlings above havent made it into the schedule at all really as have been trying to keep nute free untill sex but can see why not such a good idea in the "empty" coco. Those that have made it too feeding usually get a 1/4 strength grow feed at sex then mainly onto the MonstaBud for flower nutes with some grow nutes here and there as well as seasol. I havent been feeding by days, rather I have been trying to see when the plants look like need a feed but will and be more organised on the next run and keep to a schedule so I know where I and they should be at. All in all Ive been trying to be as light handed as possible with nutes so as to not overdo it but obviously I can afford a bit more in there since the coco is void of any of its own food etc. Just to play around, Ive put a cple in soil seed raising mix outside in the last few days and they seem to be doing well so when I start next proper indoor run Ill prob try some in soil and some in coco to see how they go. I'll get there eventually - no matter how many I stunt along the way!!
Hope you get your feeding schedule sorted out Mate. After careful consideration I declined to try my hand at soil-less growing... I couldn't imagine having to worry about every little nute going into the soil from day one... Muddy might be able to help you along with that... He certainly helped me when I was considering going over to how you're growing. So you may want to hit Muddy up and ask his advice. Wish I could help ya Mate! I know you'll get it sorted out soon!
I got a grip of Jems going myself. Hope to get a female. Out of 5 (1 in the party cup comp) I got one male so far. He's healthy but not the smokin' kind! Nice to hear the JEM is smooth smoke. I've heard nothing but great things about the smoke and effect! I'll definitely be waiting on your report on the Blueberry effects! Hope you get a bit of that Blueberry taste despite the bad taste buds. Dang sinuses... Bugger. I know how that is bro!
I got a grip of Jems going myself. Hope to get a female. Out of 5 (1 in the party cup comp) I got one male so far. He's healthy but not the smokin' kind! Nice to hear the JEM is smooth smoke. I've heard nothing but great things about the smoke and effect! I'll definitely be waiting on your report on the Blueberry effects! Hope you get a bit of that Blueberry taste despite the bad taste buds. Dang sinuses... Bugger. I know how that is bro!
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AndyBotwin
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+rep for the pre-holiday harvest, mate!
Keep your head up over the problems - it'll turn around for you soon enough. I don't grow in coco, but I do start in party cups with Light Warrior, which is nearly soilless. I add some myco booster when germing (Kangaroots but there are many others out there) and let them go untouched for about a week. Maybe one watering in that timeframe but that's it. That's when I tier them into larger pots with nuted soil, and they really take off then. I had trouble planting in hot soil so I'm not a fan of nutes from day one, but I've found that around 1 week in they can take a light feeding.
Keep your head up over the problems - it'll turn around for you soon enough. I don't grow in coco, but I do start in party cups with Light Warrior, which is nearly soilless. I add some myco booster when germing (Kangaroots but there are many others out there) and let them go untouched for about a week. Maybe one watering in that timeframe but that's it. That's when I tier them into larger pots with nuted soil, and they really take off then. I had trouble planting in hot soil so I'm not a fan of nutes from day one, but I've found that around 1 week in they can take a light feeding.
How's everything going Matey? Andy's recommendations sound good to me. What did you tier into Andy? Happy Frog or something else? I'm curious...
glaucoma
it's our choice...
hey folks - hope yr all well
apologies for my slowness in replying - thanks for the encouraging words Andy and West. Id be completely stumped in this growing business if it wasnt for the help and encouragement from folks here.
Bluberry is going down well - Im crap at saying which strain has which qualities as i find my mood and whats going on around me plays a big part but does the job very well. This time of year is usually really tight with getting bud so is awesome to have a homegrown stash :dance: - now Ive just gotta get a bit more consistent so I have more like that one. So much nicer tasting than what I usually get when buying too due to using organics as much as the strain taste.
Ive taken the tent down a little while ago as lotsa pple around the house this time of year but am now gearing up for the next indoor adventure. What was inside is now outside, night here now but I hope to take a few pics tomorrow. Green O Matic and Snowryder have got some pretty serious leaf bleaching due to deficiency but theyre still growing and rpoviding me with an opportunity to learn from my mistakes.. The Moby Dick photo could have been grown better but is looking like it should be some very nice smoke when done.
Cheers for that advice Andy - am getting ready for the next indoor run and will be trying some in soil and some still in the coco. I think the soil (with seedling soil to start with so shouldnt be too hot) should help stabilise things and provide a bit more room for error as far as deficiencies/nute probs go. Have started a few outside recently in the soil starter mix and seem to be happy enough so fingers crossed Ive got the right medium this time (I wish we had the same brands here as you guys do over there to make things easier). Ill also still play around with some in coco as I do want to be able to make that work with more consistency than I have previously as much as anything for the challenge. Ill open a new thread on that one in the coming days and will try and be consistent in my updating as well as growing as I will appreciate everyones advice as I go.
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apologies for my slowness in replying - thanks for the encouraging words Andy and West. Id be completely stumped in this growing business if it wasnt for the help and encouragement from folks here.
Bluberry is going down well - Im crap at saying which strain has which qualities as i find my mood and whats going on around me plays a big part but does the job very well. This time of year is usually really tight with getting bud so is awesome to have a homegrown stash :dance: - now Ive just gotta get a bit more consistent so I have more like that one. So much nicer tasting than what I usually get when buying too due to using organics as much as the strain taste.
Ive taken the tent down a little while ago as lotsa pple around the house this time of year but am now gearing up for the next indoor adventure. What was inside is now outside, night here now but I hope to take a few pics tomorrow. Green O Matic and Snowryder have got some pretty serious leaf bleaching due to deficiency but theyre still growing and rpoviding me with an opportunity to learn from my mistakes.. The Moby Dick photo could have been grown better but is looking like it should be some very nice smoke when done.
Cheers for that advice Andy - am getting ready for the next indoor run and will be trying some in soil and some still in the coco. I think the soil (with seedling soil to start with so shouldnt be too hot) should help stabilise things and provide a bit more room for error as far as deficiencies/nute probs go. Have started a few outside recently in the soil starter mix and seem to be happy enough so fingers crossed Ive got the right medium this time (I wish we had the same brands here as you guys do over there to make things easier). Ill also still play around with some in coco as I do want to be able to make that work with more consistency than I have previously as much as anything for the challenge. Ill open a new thread on that one in the coming days and will try and be consistent in my updating as well as growing as I will appreciate everyones advice as I go.
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AndyBotwin
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How's everything going Matey? Andy's recommendations sound good to me. What did you tier into Andy? Happy Frog or something else? I'm curious...
WVR, I'm still using
OF mixed with 1/5 perlite and a teaspoon of lime per gallon. My local shop doesn't keep Happy Frog in stock so I'd have to order it online or get them to special order. Once my bag of OF is gone, I'll probably try some. I've also got a batch of FD's compo mix that I haven't tried yet, so that could be next on the radar.glaucoma, I've only grown in soil for the same reasons that you mention. It gives you a little more room for error than soilless, and since I'm still learning what autos need to thrive, I don't want to introduce any other new variables into the mix. I would like to try soilless or DWC someday once I've got more grows under my belt.
