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[davisgirl]

Aw look at the baby buds! She looks to be at the same stage as my GG.

She does look better. You should still plan to spring for the pH probe at some point, so you know the pH of what you’re putting in. A lot of experienced growers get by with the test strips and their plants are fine, and avoid the calibration and storage solutions and probe maintenance entirely.

GH makes an affordable kit that includes the up, down, testing solution, and avoids all the meters ... here is a link
Amazon product

 

[EyeWood]

Aw look at the baby buds! She looks to be at the same stage as my GG.

She does look better. You should still plan to spring for the pH probe at some point, so you know the pH of what you’re putting in. A lot of experienced growers get by with the test strips and their plants are fine, and avoid the calibration and storage solutions and probe maintenance entirely.

GH makes an affordable kit that includes the up, down, testing solution, and avoids all the meters ... here is a link
Amazon product

Thank you DG!!

 

[wes]

Plants look good! Definitely don’t see signs of drooping in your latest pics. I know what you mean about the ph meters; $100 for a good one is the reason I haven’t bought it. I guess I will have to eventually but I always just used the cheap ($5) pool kits to test my well water. When I start growing hydro, I guess I will have to finally pony up. It’s difficult for me, I’m notoriously stingy with a buck

 

[davisgirl]

Plants look good! Definitely don’t see signs of drooping in your latest pics. I know what you mean about the ph meters; $100 for a good one is the reason I haven’t bought it. I guess I will have to eventually but I always just used the cheap ($5) pool kits to test my well water. When I start growing hydro, I guess I will have to finally pony up. It’s difficult for me, I’m notoriously stingy with a buck

Wes, it’s crazy. When I first got my Bluelab meters, I was afraid to use them for a week. For fear I’d break them. Then on top of the meters, I had to get the calibration solutions, and the pH probe storage solution. Let a $100 pH meter go dry, and it dies. The expense is never ending. I treat them like gold. If I break it, I’m going to get that cheap kit I referenced above and be done with it!

 

[Medimadness]

@davisgirl those probes don’t usually die if they dry out, they just need constant calibration.
I have a £10 liquid probe meter and it works just almost as well as the expensive one i was given for christmas, but i calibrate to my 7.4 tap water daily before adjusting.

Compare to paper or testing liquids and you know if you did it right and that speeds up the process but only having to check the water not every mix with liquid. All you really need for basic gardening pH in my opinion!

@EyeWood things are definitely looking better!

I have to be honest and say i do see some signs of continuing stress in new growth like drooping and a bit of twisting. You may be over feeding mate, i get that with my plants when they have too much N before it gets round to tip burn.
Maybe dial back a little and see if things improve maybe? i don’t have to give my plants 2ml/l of anything, and also check that your calmag doesn’t have N in also, they often contain a value of ~2 N.

if you had bone dry soil i doubt it is overwatering! just so hard to see in pics, just wish i could be there myself to take good look!

Good luck buddy!!

 

[EyeWood]

@davisgirl those probes don’t usually die if they dry out, they just need constant calibration.
I have a £10 liquid probe meter and it works just almost as well as the expensive one i was given for christmas, but i calibrate to my 7.4 tap water daily before adjusting.

Compare to paper or testing liquids and you know if you did it right and that speeds up the process but only having to check the water not every mix with liquid. All you really need for basic gardening pH in my opinion!

@EyeWood things are definitely looking better!

I have to be honest and say i do see some signs of continuing stress in new growth like drooping and a bit of twisting. You may be over feeding mate, i get that with my plants when they have too much N before it gets round to tip burn.
Maybe dial back a little and see if things improve maybe? i don’t have to give my plants 2ml/l of anything, and also check that your calmag doesn’t have N in also, they often contain a value of ~2 N.

if you had bone dry soil i doubt it is overwatering! just so hard to see in pics, just wish i could be there myself to take good look!

Good luck buddy!!

Thanks man. Unfortunately they both had a feed today before i read your message, but I'll try her on water next week and see if it makes a difference.

 

[Medimadness]

Thanks man. Unfortunately they both had a feed today before i read your message, but I'll try her on water next week and see if it makes a difference.

i did the exact same thing when a mod first told me what was happening, a clean water feed on the next one and a lot of research into soil growing and organic fertilizers and different methods for dialing nutes to different plants.
but now i feed incremental amounts and watch like a hawk for dayglo flourescent green tips and then reduce by 10%. I also started using 1ml pipettes to make this easier and think i’ve got it down.

Only way to learn feeding is with error as i have learned (at least for my current line)
I wouldn’t have actually been bothered to look so far into it if i didn’t make mistakes! :smoking:

 

[EyeWood]

i did the exact same thing when a mod first told me what was happening, a clean water feed on the next one and a lot of research into soil growing and organic fertilizers and different methods for dialing nutes to different plants.
but now i feed incremental amounts and watch like a hawk for dayglo flourescent green tips and then reduce by 10%. I also started using 1ml pipettes to make this easier and think i’ve got it down.

Only way to learn feeding is with error as i have learned (at least for my current line)
I wouldn’t have actually been bothered to look so far into it if i didn’t make mistakes! :smoking:

Hey man, I'm not sure if this helps at all... But here is a pic of NL yesterday pre feed Vs this morning.

I would expect more droop if they were being given too much nutrients? I have no idea if this would be the case in reality.

I still intent to give her plain water this week, just asking the question. I'm still seeing more lift of leaves over time but as you pointed out the new growth is still looking a bit stressed. Could this just be the residual effects of being to close to the lights, do you think?

How long before you would expect to see a full recovery after spending a few days far too close to the lights?

If anyone has any thoughts on this please feel free to chime in .

Cheers,

 

[davisgirl]

Here’s my thoughts ... total noob ok?

I’m not sure what’s going on. I’d tread very lightly for a few days and watch like a hawk. PH is a huge piece of the puzzle, it’s almost impossible to troubleshoot without it. That being said, the ladies have made it this far. They don’t look bad, I’ll keep my fingers crossed.

 

[EyeWood]

Okay guys, need a bit of advice...

So, today I had some litmus paper delivered to sense check the pH meter that I have. Seems to be working okay!

The water I've been feeding the girls is reading 8 ...

The soil in both pots is reading 7. I've ph'd some water down to 6 and fed 500ml as they were dry!

Should I flush with ph'd water until the soil reads around 6? Or just feed when required ph'd water again?

How do you suggest I proceed?

Thanks.