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[Froot n Fuel]

wait are you still not feeding these girls yet?

 

[Medimadness]

Hey man if you said the leaves went a little pale too and with that severe drooping I'd say overwatering is your problem! Feel the leaves, if overwatered they literally feel heavy and full of water

She does look overwatered but it could be pH though haven't seen those specific symptoms, usually you would find mute lockout and different deficiency depending on substrate pH.
Tap water sat out usually reads a few points higher too though mate, I have to adjust mine with lemon juice as it reads 8.1 - 8.6 after standing for 48hr BTW

That dropping, the way it looks like the leaves are dragging themselves down look like water issue

 

[EyeWood]

@Froot n Fuel They are being fed, yes. Theyre currently getting 2ml of grow, 1ml of calmag and NL has had 1ml of bloom yesterday.

@davisgirl It's so annoying to have one girl looking so happy and the other depressed! Lol

She's actually looking a bit perkier today than yesterday. She was bone dry when I watered her yesterday. So I have my doubts it's over watering. They've both been getting the same volume of water each day. Between 500 and 600ml depending on the pot weight.

I feel like if it were PH then they would both be sad but this could simply be my blatant lack of experience! Lol

I have a soil probe PH meter but have ignored it since it seems to vary wildly depending on the moisture content of the soil.

I may have to invest....

Here she is yesterday compared with this morning...

I'm definitely a bit less worried about her this morning. What do you guys think?

The lower leaves are definitely starting to lift up towards the light.

In terms of recovery would it be normal for her to start to perk up from the lower leaves first? So the tips would be the last ones to start to lift back up?

Could she just have needed a few days to get some energy back after being cooked?

Thanks again.

 

[Froot n Fuel]

well you’re doing the right thing by not trying to over correct anything!
from the photos, she does look over saturated to me like Medi said, but if her pot is drying out then it must be something else.
doesn’t appear to be any discoloured leaves anywhere or anything like that?

here's the thing i've learned about pH'ing (or not pH'ing, as is our case) during my first grow, and why i now pick up a pH pen...if you develop an issue, pH is the first thing that gets jumped on, and rightly so - it seems to me it causes the biggest array of issues in growing. i have a plant that went south pretty early on and without the knowledge of what my soil's pH was at, everything else then becomes guess work. i'm still at that stage now, until i can afford to invest in a decent soil probe - in the meantime, i pH both my tap water (which rises to almost 8.0 if left out over 24 hours) and my "pH Perfect" AN nutrient solutions, just so i have an idea of what i am putting in to the pot, at least. how it reacts in there and how much the pH drifts, for me, is a guessing game still. out of the three plants i grew for my first grow, i think two of them had pH related problems...but what i really don't like is that I don't know that for sure!

 

[EyeWood]

well you’re doing the right thing by not trying to over correct anything!
from the photos, she does look over saturated to me like Medi said, but if her pot is drying out then it must be something else.
doesn’t appear to be any discoloured leaves anywhere or anything like that?

here's the thing i've learned about pH'ing (or not pH'ing, as is our case) during my first grow, and why i now pick up a pH pen...if you develop an issue, pH is the first thing that gets jumped on, and rightly so - it seems to me it causes the biggest array of issues in growing. i have a plant that went south pretty early on and without the knowledge of what my soil's pH was at, everything else then becomes guess work. i'm still at that stage now, until i can afford to invest in a decent soil probe - in the meantime, i pH both my tap water (which rises to almost 8.0 if left out over 24 hours) and my "pH Perfect" AN nutrient solutions, just so i have an idea of what i am putting in to the pot, at least. how it reacts in there and how much the pH drifts, for me, is a guessing game still. out of the three plants i grew for my first grow, i think two of them had pH related problems...but what i really don't like is that I don't know that for sure!

Thanks for your input! I'd be lying if I said I hadn't worried about the PH... My probe is cheap and shit and I realized very quickly that I wasn't going to trust it, so just haven't used it.

She's had a few lightening leaves under her canopy but I put that down to not getting any light and have removed said offending leaves.

Gonna look into a decent soil probe. Seems like it's the only avenue for peace of mind. Even if the pH is fine at least I'll know and I'm sure I'll need one somewhere along the way. Any suggestions on meter?

 

[EyeWood]

I'll keep a close eye on her over the weekend and if she isn't continuing to improve then a soil probe will be purchased! Lol

 

[Froot n Fuel]

exactly - even if pH isn't the problem, you've eliminated one of if not the biggest cause of problems. that in itself will make it infinitely easier to pinpoint and adjust what is causing issues.

the Wizard Accurate pH8 probe is what i see recommended the most...and a quick google search suggests it will be tough for us to pick one up in the UK....
i'll look for something similar, but take a look at that probe and you'll have an idea. that takes care of soil pH, but you'll need a separate pH pen for water and nutes.

 

[EyeWood]

Holy shit probes and pH meters are expensive!!!

I can double the cost of my entire set up with a pH meter and probe.

Let's hope she keeps improving over the weekend!

Gonna be an awkward conversation coming when I tell my family just to all pitch in and get me a meter and probe for Christmas! Lol

Bad enough with everyone asking what my birthday money was spent on! Lol (tent, lights, extracor, filter, seeds)

 

[Froot n Fuel]

i can relate! i think i'll be selling off my valuables to fund the probe and an RO system before long.

 

[EyeWood]

Hey guys, just a quick update. I'm convinced she is getting better. Just home from work and popped my head in to check on the little princess and she's definitely looking a healthier shade of green.

Here's this morning Vs this evening .

Fingers crossed she carries on like this .

Cheers,