Ionic Silver VS Colloidal Silver
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I used a low voltage ac/dc converter, 5v and 500miliamps to make my 20ppm cs, it takes a couple days to get that strength. I use a bubbler to mix the water while it is brewing. My last reversal plant ended up with a ton of male flowers, but I got no pollen, I think is is because I quit spraying once I had a lot of flowers, gotta keep spraying till you start getting pollen. Another big problem ive had is, you gotta start spraying early, once there are significant female flowers, its too late to reverse from my experience. Im going to try sts next, sounds easier and more effective.
Agreed with all that. I just took down my poor HBD plant as all I was getting was empty nanners. Figured I'd make room for the new chartered genes. Hopefully these are easier plants to turn, HBD just did not want to turn and the minute I quit spraying her after she was all shrivelled and brittle she stopped making pollen. Very frustrating.
Going to put a dark devil in a germ bag tonight along with a berry bomb see how they grow before I try a reversal. I'm not going to overwater or overfeed and I'm going to let them go as long as they a still green and healthy wait for leaves to start to yellow and fall off.
Then im going to brew some fresh CS and germ 2 more, one of each. And have another go at a seed run. I'd like to grow my own seed outside before next fall would be a great achievement.
Going to put a dark devil in a germ bag tonight along with a berry bomb see how they grow before I try a reversal. I'm not going to overwater or overfeed and I'm going to let them go as long as they a still green and healthy wait for leaves to start to yellow and fall off.
Then im going to brew some fresh CS and germ 2 more, one of each. And have another go at a seed run. I'd like to grow my own seed outside before next fall would be a great achievement.
http://www.silverwell.com.au/making-cs.html
I found this page to be helpful. It goes into some detail other articles do not. It talks about Ions/Colloids/particles.
It also mentioned temperature controlling the saturation point of the water being used. As a result of low temperatures at my place, I have had clumps and "plating" the glass (all of this is a result of a low saturation point). Hopefully, this will also help me be successful in reversing a plant. I believe, it is definitely why the silver ions have fallen out of my silver reversing spray, probably rendering it ineffective in trying to reverse a cannabis plant.
I am going to try and make a cs run in the warmth of my flowering area, I will store it there as well, away from any light however.
Edit; I am in no way saying buy that product. I think the main page is a cs brewer or something. Link is for informational purposes only. I don't even know for sure what the main page is selling. Don't buy it, buy more beans.
I found this page to be helpful. It goes into some detail other articles do not. It talks about Ions/Colloids/particles.
It also mentioned temperature controlling the saturation point of the water being used. As a result of low temperatures at my place, I have had clumps and "plating" the glass (all of this is a result of a low saturation point). Hopefully, this will also help me be successful in reversing a plant. I believe, it is definitely why the silver ions have fallen out of my silver reversing spray, probably rendering it ineffective in trying to reverse a cannabis plant.
I am going to try and make a cs run in the warmth of my flowering area, I will store it there as well, away from any light however.
Edit; I am in no way saying buy that product. I think the main page is a cs brewer or something. Link is for informational purposes only. I don't even know for sure what the main page is selling. Don't buy it, buy more beans.
Salutations Aku,
It happens i got a theory on "Colloidal Silver" and some possible potential for an alternate use as miticide, at least on males considering we don't normally use those for consumption anyway. Last year at the last minute i actually cancelled a project meant to explore this matter, specifically; my intent was to evaluate the eradication of spider mite colonies by killing their eggs, though without inhibiting the ethylene sex hormone in cannabis, ideally. One problem that causes me to favour testing on males is that i don't know how much time is required for vegetal leaves to absorb Colloidal Silver. Yet after some reading i've theorized that a generous rinse intended to flush eventual silver salts + dead eggs would be in order after 6 minutes - or the plant should be considered contaminated and improper for human consumption until proven otherwise.
Unfortunately it's only a clever alignment of words so far. But if i could be certain it works and a protocol exists to maximize my chances of success then i wouldn't mind a bit having false males on my window-sill as this would constitute a major breakout for me already: it would defeat The Borg and my serenity would finally prevail at last!
Your statement to the effect that "sex reversal" has failed apparently proves it's quite an option to spray plants with a CS solution and yet expect/observe no effect in terms of sex manipulations. Which i suspect implies mites eggs can be killed while ethylene inhibition would remain an option...
That could be a start and this would make a man happy again, because of hope being recovered.
Most of those ready-made CS generators co$t a bunch which i realy find hard to justify myself!
Perhaps i've missed a spot but it seems to me it's a decent CS generator solution - but i still agree, i'd also have to say don't fall for it anyway!!
M'well, more clearly here's how i understand it better:
In principle it's all there, the reader has to be able to interpret electronic schematics though. That's something i can do to some fair extent, so what i see is this: no severe limitation on voltage range for all i can tell, proper current density on the donor electrode when using apair of 1 inch (dia.) silver coins (e.g. only 1 coin behaves as the electrolysis "donor" at a given time), and finally, cyclic polarity reversal to help keep the silver electrodes clean (by switching donor positions).
Overall that's no bad idea considering there can be too many variables already; too bad we can't find decent implementations at an affordable/reasonable price!
Good day, have fun!!
It happens i got a theory on "Colloidal Silver" and some possible potential for an alternate use as miticide, at least on males considering we don't normally use those for consumption anyway. Last year at the last minute i actually cancelled a project meant to explore this matter, specifically; my intent was to evaluate the eradication of spider mite colonies by killing their eggs, though without inhibiting the ethylene sex hormone in cannabis, ideally. One problem that causes me to favour testing on males is that i don't know how much time is required for vegetal leaves to absorb Colloidal Silver. Yet after some reading i've theorized that a generous rinse intended to flush eventual silver salts + dead eggs would be in order after 6 minutes - or the plant should be considered contaminated and improper for human consumption until proven otherwise.
Unfortunately it's only a clever alignment of words so far. But if i could be certain it works and a protocol exists to maximize my chances of success then i wouldn't mind a bit having false males on my window-sill as this would constitute a major breakout for me already: it would defeat The Borg and my serenity would finally prevail at last!
Your statement to the effect that "sex reversal" has failed apparently proves it's quite an option to spray plants with a CS solution and yet expect/observe no effect in terms of sex manipulations. Which i suspect implies mites eggs can be killed while ethylene inhibition would remain an option...
That could be a start and this would make a man happy again, because of hope being recovered.
Most of those ready-made CS generators co$t a bunch which i realy find hard to justify myself!
Perhaps i've missed a spot but it seems to me it's a decent CS generator solution - but i still agree, i'd also have to say don't fall for it anyway!!
M'well, more clearly here's how i understand it better:
In principle it's all there, the reader has to be able to interpret electronic schematics though. That's something i can do to some fair extent, so what i see is this: no severe limitation on voltage range for all i can tell, proper current density on the donor electrode when using a
Overall that's no bad idea considering there can be too many variables already; too bad we can't find decent implementations at an affordable/reasonable price!
Good day, have fun!!
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[QUOTE Colloidal Silver: end result is cloudy and amber in color, darker is stronger, a TDS meter will only read so much then will cut off usually around 20 ppm. A laser pointer shining through it looks solid, like a light saber, without glittery sparkles. More of a creamy look to the laser beam.[/QUOTE]
Oh, I'm glad I read this. My colloidal silver I'm making is all dark and murky, and I can't get the TDS meter past 24. So this is kind of normal then, yes? I've read that the cs should be about 40 ppm for making seeds. So.....? So there's no way to test the ppm, if the meter sticks at around 20? I'm using three 9-volt batteries. My friend uses just one battery, and has had good success reversing plants. I wonder if I should go to 1 battery. Ugh. I don't think I'll have this sativa I'm growing reversed before it's sister is past the pollinating stage.
Oh, I'm glad I read this. My colloidal silver I'm making is all dark and murky, and I can't get the TDS meter past 24. So this is kind of normal then, yes? I've read that the cs should be about 40 ppm for making seeds. So.....? So there's no way to test the ppm, if the meter sticks at around 20? I'm using three 9-volt batteries. My friend uses just one battery, and has had good success reversing plants. I wonder if I should go to 1 battery. Ugh. I don't think I'll have this sativa I'm growing reversed before it's sister is past the pollinating stage.
If I make my own, and the meter stops reading after about 24, how do I know I'm at 40ppm? I think I'm making mine too strong...
Nope, his is just slightly yellow. I think my silver must not be as good as his, or I'm just letting the battery stay hooked up too long. My meter stops way before the preferred 40 ppm, for some reason.
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