Outdoor Growtogrow.. Michigan Unlimited multi strain organic grow
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Ya watching the snow spit now.@Doug58 I am in your hood and have never grown outdoors here. I am thinking that the right autoflower might be the ticket but would love to know a good method for this area. We maybe watching a great method by Growtogrow for this area 
I'm North of Gaylord. Growtogrow must be a couple hundred miles South. I grew autoflowers outside last year. One photo plant. Had issues with PM and then budrot at the end with the photo plant but still got about a pound out of it. I harvested the top colas first and would work my way down over two weeks, last week was non-stop rain.Ya watching the snow spit now.@Doug58 I am in your hood and have never grown outdoors here. I am thinking that the right autoflower might be the ticket but would love to know a good method for this area. We maybe watching a great method by Growtogrow for this area
Autoflower plants had to be started inside in June before moving outside in July to finish in time. Ones I started in July finished up when I got snow in middle of October. Last two plants I just picked the best buds off and that night it snowed. Just burned those plants in a brush pile yesterday.
End of July I got two inches of hail, I had a large photo planted in the ground and it survived.
I think everyone growing outside in Michigan I have seen here had PM and budrot issues last year.
Ya watching the snow spit now.@Doug58 I am in your hood and have never grown outdoors here. I am thinking that the right autoflower might be the ticket but would love to know a good method for this area. We maybe watching a great method by Growtogrow for this area
It's going to be cold all day here the high is only going to be 44°f but to feel like 33°f cuz there's going to be a breezes. It's37°f now at 10:15a.m.
I'm going to run the heat until the tanks run out or until 7p.m. when I'll have 1 hour left to fill them.
So in Michigan to grow outside we're supposed to have a grow cage. The cage is to be secure and able to lock.The cannabis cannot be seen from the road.
I had to put up a privacy fence. I've had my license sense 2014 and have been growing outside since 2015 Legally. So the whole idea of being able to cover my cage just came naturally because I feared Frost and then towards the end of harvest I wanted to make sure that the crop didn't get any moisture from rain or heavy dew. So to help prevent Bud rot and powdery mildew. I learned along the way how to use the hydrogen peroxide to keep my plants clean of them 2 nemesis. A couple seasons ago I discovered Green cure. I was watching some other farmers and they suggested using Green cure and I started using Green cure and that stuff is really great for keeping the powdery mildew at bay. Its is sodium bicarbonate and the stuff is just great to keep it back and is all natural it doesn't leave any flavor for bad taste on the product. I use a hydrogen peroxide as a Bud wash to wash my all of my Harvest with at Harvest Time.
Bud rot to help slow it down Bud rot comes from bug poop and moisture that creates a phenomenon known as green heat inside the bud. Or as Farmers would call it spontaneous hay combustion like when you pack too many green hay bales together and they catch fire. The same thing is going on in a tightly packed bud growing on your plant. The moisture gets trapped the Heat and chemical reaction inside the green plant and the perfect conditions for the bud rot to start. It won't burn but it'll start the process and then there's the black mold Bud rot.
So I've come to find out that when the buds start getting big (many people don't believe this technique yet)...but I do...
So when you can separate the Bud from the stalk a little bit by using a plastic wedge (plastic don't hold moisture) just wedge it out a little bit away from the stalk this allows air flow in between the stalk and the bud this helps slow all the powdery mildew and Bud rot down. It's tedious believe you me... I've done it...but it works.. and is relatively easy to do with a small crop of two or three plants and it's not that hard to do really with more plants it just takes more time. And can be done while you're trimming and manipulating.
So with these techniques and covering your crop. (it could be a single cage for each plant or for the plant that doesn't do well in the cold or a long flowering sativa) with a inexpensive clear tarp you can get on Amazon they're not very expensive for 8 by 8 is about $40. There's 10 x 15 there's all kinds of sizes. my clear tarp 20 by 16 and thick. It was only like 60 bucks. it's reinforced with a 3/8 by 3/8 little cords inside it. it's UV resistant but yet allows all the UV to go through it to get to the plant. which was really important to me cuz UV helps prevent powdery mildew it also promotes photosynthesis.
So would this covering your crop technique will extend you're growing time on both ends early and at the harvest.
Also if you don't mind being married to your crop for a little while you can start early flowering by doing light deprivation a couple of weeks before the sun light starts to change them naturally in your region. Which would give you a two-week jump-start on everybody else naturally in your same area and you can stop tarping as soon as ketchup to the daylight time.. And that's kind of why I did it to start with it. Was just to be ahead of all the the other growers and the Rippers too
they're out there believe you me.. there out there. But by being a couple two or three weeks ahead of everybody else in my Harvest I was able to have quality product when people were just getting ready to think about harvesting.Not only that but the more intense sunlight during the flower period Produces a bigger and better Bud that is denser and thicker. Talk about dank I can bounce some of these buds off the table like playing quarter bounce.
Just food for thought guys
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Lots of good advice gtg. In my case I think my season is actually a bit longer because the fear of late or early frost is less because I'm on a coast with a warm current offshore...Milder but not as good for light quality throughout the season. I need my greenhouse for sure...it enhances the season rather than extending it. There are the very interesting Danish strains that are adapted to northen climes. The site where I got mine (hybrids from hell )is no longer up but the genetics are still available somewhere I'm sure. They are fun because they can grow up here without all the fussiness.
I used peroxide last year on the recommendations of Jean-O and Growtogrow. Also washed all my harvested bud that I grew outside after seeing how dirty it gets with a dirt road running by my property.
The photo plant was from Bad Dawg Genetics and was a freebie which was supposedly developed for growing in this state's conditions. But the top buds were huge and tightly packed. As long as from my elbow to my fist. That's where the bud rot started. Had the same issue on one pheno from a Fastbuds Pineapple Express that grew like a Christmas tree with one massive tight packed cola.
I've read that any light could effect a photo plant during hours of darkness. A road runs right by my property, 25 yards or so from my privacy fence so headlights shine into the area every time a vehicle drive by but didn't adversely affect the one photo plant I grew.
I have three big thick brown coated tarps and a frame built where I will be growing one or more photo plants so I may try light deprivation like Growtogrow mentioned to get an earlier bud setting on the plants this year to beat the bad weather at the end of Summer.
The photo plant was from Bad Dawg Genetics and was a freebie which was supposedly developed for growing in this state's conditions. But the top buds were huge and tightly packed. As long as from my elbow to my fist. That's where the bud rot started. Had the same issue on one pheno from a Fastbuds Pineapple Express that grew like a Christmas tree with one massive tight packed cola.
I've read that any light could effect a photo plant during hours of darkness. A road runs right by my property, 25 yards or so from my privacy fence so headlights shine into the area every time a vehicle drive by but didn't adversely affect the one photo plant I grew.
I have three big thick brown coated tarps and a frame built where I will be growing one or more photo plants so I may try light deprivation like Growtogrow mentioned to get an earlier bud setting on the plants this year to beat the bad weather at the end of Summer.
Your going like doing light dep it's a lot of fun. But it takes dedication that's probably about it and if you only do it for a couple of weeks it's not so bad.
Not like my dumb ass doing it for 12 or 13 weeks altogether LOL
I've streetlight that's about 20 yd from my grow cage. It's been there. it's not really bright but it's bright enough that when I grew closer to it last year it may have bothered a few plants little bit. But also they were stressed because there's some of them were in pots and they kept running out of water I had a hard time with those ones. cuz my screwed up timeline last year..because of all the bad weather. I'm not going to let that happen this year. come hell or high water...I'm sticking to it.
But I don't know for sure because I grew so late into the season (I don't usually grow that late into the season I try to be done by the second week in August by August 10th is my goal be done by ) and it could have been somebody plant had pollinated my plants (this was last year.) And the reason I say that is it's because some of the plants that gave me seeds. I've grown this year. The seedlings plants are turning out funny style like they were Auto?? it maybe an auto plant with Rudarails in it? the genetics. Cuz some of these seeds that I've got going.. I've had to kill about 30 plants..now. that aren't coming out right. Unusual genetics. so I've been having to pick and choose the regulars real closely that I've been using because I've come up with hermaphrodites and a lot of males from the wedding cake 2 from last year. But the first harvest plants though they come out great. The Only plant that gave 1 seed was the Dragon blood hp. And it just so happened to be a female seed yay ! and she's growing out in the garden right now. She looks healthy as hell. The only thing I don't see any of yet though in this DBHP that I was hoping to see from the original plant was how the stem bleeds when you cut a leaf off. I haven't seen that trait in this plant yet. most desirable at a Grower breeders perspective.
I love your Greenhouse too that you have their Jraven that's awesome. Yeah the Danish do have some really good cold weather plants. that's really something you Northern guys should look into is the Danish and also a Dutch Passion they've got a lot of good cold weather plants as well that do well in those climates... the @Weed Warrior I remember him speaking pretty highly of those plants too...growing in his Northern climate. He pretty much had where he was growing at all figured out to a T. He had been growing there for a long time.. and has a lot of information about growing in Northern climates. when it comes to shade plant suitted better in full sun and Auto Plants that do well in those conditions. He just has a lot of knowledge.
Ya watching the snow spit now.@Doug58 I am in your hood and have never grown outdoors here. I am thinking that the right autoflower might be the ticket but would love to know a good method for this area. We maybe watching a great method by Growtogrow for this area
I tried to find his threads but it came up as though he limited their viewing to only certain individuals.Yes weed warriors' threads and tutorials are a huge resource if anyone here's after info about northern growing
I found one seed out of approximately 20 plants I grew last year outside. A Blueberry auto. Have no idea how I could only have one seed with all those plants. No one else is growing on the small island I live on, out of 20 houses only 6 or 7 are occupied, pollen would have to blow across the lake to get to me. I suppose insects could carry it but odd I would only get a single seed. It didn't appear mature. The weed from the plant was fine.
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