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[Waira]

From what I gather, "Skunk" is as mixed-up and mis-ID'ed as "Haze" and "NL" and the rest of those olde foundation cultivars... look at how much bitch slapping in forums that goes on over who has what "genuine" genetics and connections to the original sources! Even some of those clowns only now 'fess up to what a clusterfuck it was then and now has all become... (seem some pretty wonky stuff about Skunkman Watson, Neville, Haze Bro's, etc. and the madness of the fleeing to EU and seed sharing,... starting of seed companies, fighting, stealing,...on and on!)
Who's even been alive and directly experienced long enough to really know? Very damn few...
They are out there, but who would know the difference? Certainly not the typical grower these days...how could they with no accurate baseline to compare to?
And consider what a mash-up even those foundation cultivars are, small wonder there's so much variation...
Even the modern cuts, Cup winners and all that crap, get watered down or pheno-drifted off point from the real deal cultivars. By the time seeds arrive, odds are poor in getting something that was the Cup winning pheno, if it's possible at all, right? One reason why clones can be so stoopidly $$,...
So much of cannabis is urban legend and conventional misnomer! The terms "Sativa and Indica" and the narrow leaf/fat leaf thing are at the core of this; as used commonly they are 100% botanically incorrect... Look up Clarke's classification scheme for cannabis and you'll see what I mean...
Anyway, rant over-

Skunk lineage aroma seems to fork into sweet/fruity or the stanky namesake more or less, from what I've been able to figure out...?
...examples: Green Poison is all exotic fruits, Skunk parentage.... Skunk Special pheno's can be sweet/fruity or rank BO/skunk/cat pee-ish...
The aromatic chemistry that produces that aroma is found in a variety of cultivars, to varying degrees...

In my whole life, I've had maybe 3 bags of truly rank roadkill skunk dominant smelling bud, totally bust-me weed ... the rest paled to this, and it's been decades since the last one... it had no true name, just bag seed and sheer dumb luck!
Yes, each seed is like a brother and sister in genetics,... progeny and favor one parent side or the other more commonly, but black sheep pheno's are hardly rare!

 

[Growtogrow]

From what I gather, "Skunk" is as mixed-up and mis-ID'ed as "Haze" and "NL" and the rest of those olde foundation cultivars... look at how much bitch slapping in forums that goes on over who has what "genuine" genetics and connections to the original sources! Even some of those clowns only now 'fess up to what a clusterfuck it was then and now has all become... (seem some pretty wonky stuff about Skunkman Watson, Neville, Haze Bro's, etc. and the madness of the fleeing to EU and seed sharing,... starting of seed companies, fighting, stealing,...on and on!)
Who's even been alive and directly experienced long enough to really know? Very damn few...
They are out there, but who would know the difference? Certainly not the typical grower these days...how could they with no accurate baseline to compare to?
And consider what a mash-up even those foundation cultivars are, small wonder there's so much variation...
Even the modern cuts, Cup winners and all that crap, get watered down or pheno-drifted off point from the real deal cultivars. By the time seeds arrive, odds are poor in getting something that was the Cup winning pheno, if it's possible at all, right? One reason why clones can be so stoopidly $$,...
So much of cannabis is urban legend and conventional misnomer! The terms "Sativa and Indica" and the narrow leaf/fat leaf thing are at the core of this; as used commonly they are 100% botanically incorrect... Look up Clarke's classification scheme for cannabis and you'll see what I mean...
Anyway, rant over-

Skunk lineage aroma seems to fork into sweet/fruity or the stanky namesake more or less, from what I've been able to figure out...?
...examples: Green Poison is all exotic fruits, Skunk parentage.... Skunk Special pheno's can be sweet/fruity or rank BO/skunk/cat pee-ish...
The aromatic chemistry that produces that aroma is found in a variety of cultivars, to varying degrees...

In my whole life, I've had maybe 3 bags of truly rank roadkill skunk dominant smelling bud, totally bust-me weed ... the rest paled to this, and it's been decades since the last one... it had no true name, just bag seed and sheer dumb luck!
Yes, each seed is like a brother and sister in genetics,... progeny and favor one parent side or the other more commonly, but black sheep pheno's are hardly rare!

@Waira
@Jean-O
@dankstyle J
@Antonio_DutchPassion
I called you in Antonio because I worked with you before. And that you might have better insight from the breeder you work with.



Hey pals glad y'all could stop by and join us for this skunk weed discussion.
Thanks for chiming in.
I appreciate your input for real.

Finding the real skunk.

I'm seriously looking for this skunk strain. I edited this post to call y'all down here so you can help me find the strain.

This is been a real quest for me for years now...

There's a ton of breeders out there that claim they have the skunk weed.

Man
Just A shitload of them for real. I don't know how long it would take me to go through all of them to find that skunky goodness that I'm looking for though ? damn...

Most all of the original lineages of skunk #1 are Acapulco Gold, Colombian gold and Afghani. Some kind of mix. ?

Sooo...
I started smoking weed the summer of 1976. I had just turned 12 four months earlier

It was a Wednesday. I was on my way back from church. Yup... Church damn those church kids...

Riding the church bus home with my best friend John.
Church bus let us off around 8:30 pm on a September evening.

We were country boys. Farm kids. You know the kind.

The songs on the country radio was tie a yellow ribbon around the old oak tree, and Led Zeppelin stairway to heaven on the rock stations. We Listen to a lot of Sabbath, Zeppelin and Nazareth in those days. I was just fresh in junior high. Sixth grade. Ozzy was just sitting out on his own.

The bus drops us off on my property n we walked a couple hundred yards to the Old Oak Tree.
" I can't make this shit "
While we were waiting for John's dad to pick him up. He wasn't supposed to be there until after 9:00.

At the old oak tree John pulls out a wooden pipe that he had taken from his (Super Hot) older sister, and it's got the

"The Devil's lettuce in it".

I had never seen weed before.
AND
I fell in love with Mary Jane after that.

From the next year on. I was the stoner farm kid.

A Lifetime member of the A.

In the late 70s and '80s to the very early 90s. I moved a lot of weed. I don't know how many pounds of skunk that we went through. But I smoked plenty of that skunky goodness.

I had told the story earlier in another post. I don't remember where maybe in your thread with the contest I don't know? Maybe you hadn't read it?

I had a high school friend that was a grower in the '80s. He used to get the Affie weed ( Afghan ) better known as in my area as Affie or Afghani.

If and when We'd find a seed in that Affie weed every once in awhile. They're big huge lime green seeds. kind of creamy in color lime green. F-ing BIG ass seeds. Biggest seeds I've ever seen still to this day...

Dale would pay us 5 bucks each. And he wanted them all those seeds. Dale he was my inspiration grower back then.

He grew the Affie weed outside mostly and it came out as good or better than what we were getting in in imports.

Dale knew how to clone old school before clonex was even thought of. Using water and aloe vera.
But Dale wouldn't share any of those Affie clones though. Those were his thing.
He grew inside a little but mostly outside in those days.

There wasn't a whole lot of known growers growing outside. The few growers that did grow, grew in cornfields in my area they would grow in-between the rows.
Just like (The Mongol) does.
The Affie did really well cuz it flowered quick and would finish in late September early October long before the corn was brought in.

Dale could get it in before the harvest combines came through.
As a added bonus Dale's father was a large Farmer in the area and had many hundreds of acres of crops to grow in. Easy button for Dale.

So I've smoked a lot of skunk in my day.
I know exactly what I'm looking for.
No questions about that.

I have a lot of fund memories of smoking skunk drinking heinekens and jamming out to some kick ass metal.

When it comes to it my nose will know exactly what it is when the skunk comes back, there will be no mistaking it.

The Stella Artois seems to be pretty close to what I'm looking for in a skunky beer.
Too bad heineken's lost his skunky flavor. I don't know where that went to?

There may be others? Taste Testing is still going on.
It's a rigorous job but somebody has to do it


So Now I just got to find my skunky weed.

Then the reminiscing of the 80s can start...

Oops !!! hold on... Wait a minute... Damn !!!

Now Need to find some of those HOT ass bite your lip 80s chicks with the leather n boots and chains in little tight dresses. WOW...

O Yeah and that
THAT Damn Hot 80s hairspray hair... Damn

Couple videos of 80s Miami vice and Roadhouse movie.

Then I'll be set...

Life will be complete

Life is short... Need to find the skunk weed fast...

 

[Growtogrow]

The kids are loving the weather just now...
The temp's are good about 65°f low to 87°f the RH though is low down as far as 23% the day of the rain 93% but with in a few hours dropped to 60% , today 46% most of the day.

Watering daily.
Topped dressed with bone meal blood meal humic acid dolomite lime insect frass and C90 rare Earth minerals. I also made a tea with the same and added a large portion of dark brown sugar. This is aerating in the 5 gallon bucket.

They've all recovered from their last trimming. I'll be trimming again in a few more days.


Skunk Hero 22 F1

Fire OG Kush

L to R Skunk hero, RS-11, Fire OG Kush, Biscotti mint,

L to R Runtz muffin, Super lemon, Gorilla Zkittles, Super Citrus Haze.

R to L Gorilla Zkittles, Super lemon, Biscotti mint, Runtz muffin, Fire OG Kush, and way down just inside the Cage Wedding cake.

Citrus super Haze

Fire OG Kush

RS-11

L to R Fire OG Kush, Biscotti mint,Runtz muffin.

Skunk hero 22 F1

Thanks for stopping by

 

[DCLXVI]

Starting to hide that fence nicely!

 

[dankstyle J]

The kids are loving the weather just now...
The temp's are good about 65°f low to 87°f the RH though is low down as far as 23% the day of the rain 93% but with in a few hours dropped to 60% , today 46% most of the day.

Watering daily.
Topped dressed with bone meal blood meal humic acid dolomite lime insect frass and C90 rare Earth minerals. I also need a tea with the same and added a large portion of dark brown sugar this is aerating in the 5 gallon bucket.

They've all recovered from their last trimming. I'll be trimming again in a few more days.


Skunk Hero 22 F1
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Fire OG Kush
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L to R Skunk hero, RS-11, Fire OG Kush, Biscotti mint,
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L to R Runtz muffin, Super lemon, Gorilla Zkittles, Super Citrus Haze.
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R to L Gorilla Zkittles, Super lemon, Biscotti mint, Runtz muffin, Fire OG Kush, and way down just inside the Cage Wedding cake.
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Citrus super Haze
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Fire OG Kush
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RS-11
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Skunk hero 22 F1
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Looking good man I love the expression outside plants get .my indoor I dig but I miss the days of not being so underground an having a green house full of beautiful gals .Pretty soon the flowers will be coming an the chronic will be ready an winter won't be so bleak with trees like that amigo .

 

[Growtogrow]

Starting to hide that fence nicely!

Thanks for stopping by pal.

Yeah I know they're climbing up that fence quick. I know I told you, "I'm going to keep them below that fence".

I'm doing my damn best.

It's hard I can't say it ain't it's been a challenge for me this year. I've been doing pretty good but I don't think I'm going to be able to do it unless I really go into doing some breakage.

I found a video that vindicates my growing style very well.

This guy is really good at what he does and very informative. He shows you exactly what I do but he might go a little bit beyond what I do?

I like it a lot.

So I went out and did the same things to one of the girls (Runtz muffin) by cracking the stock. If you watch the video he called it the " kush chiropractics ". I'm going to put the video down below go check it out you guys will like it I think.

Looking good man I love the expression outside plants get .my indoor I dig but I miss the days of not being so underground an having a green house full of beautiful gals .Pretty soon the flowers will be coming an the chronic will be ready an winter won't be so bleak with trees like that amigo .

Thanks DJ
I appreciate it man
I appreciate when you guys come down check out my work.

I've been giving it a go this year. I wanted to be, you know one of those gnome in the garden beautiful botanical thing, you know.

But my redneck won't let me. LOL . My wife gets mad at me a little bit. But she knows is what it is. LOL

I just got too much junk in the yard and I just can't make it right. Doing the best I can though.

Thanks for the observance.
I wish I had a better yard to work with this year.

But I did find another property up north. But it's nothing that I'm going to keep though. it's just an investment property and as soon as we improve it I'm turning it right back around again by October.
I'll be able to get some of the things out of my yard but it's not going to make a difference per se in what it looks like down my fence line and the garden space for the girls.

Maybe next year I'll have a nice botanical looking garden that's Redneck inspired. LOL

Thanks for stopping by guys.

 

[Growtogrow]

This is excellent training video one of the best that I've found on the way I do things in my garden. And he does some other things that I think is a great takeaway.

You guys are going to love this. What he talks about in this video is to me

99.9% true.

 

[MasonJarOG]

The skunk seeds I have are nothing like those OG skunk seeds from the 70/80’s I would see in SoCal directly from NorCal. Big fat stripes 3x the size of regular seeds. I’m headed to where I grew up end of the month and will search out an old friend of mine whom if anyone saved those seeds it would be them. Stay tuned!

 

[Growtogrow]

The skunk seeds I have are nothing like those OG skunk seeds from the 70/80’s I would see in SoCal directly from NorCal. Big fat stripes 3x the size of regular seeds. I’m headed to where I grew up end of the month and will search out an old friend of mine whom if anyone saved those seeds it would be them. Stay tuned!

O hell yeah that'll be cool if he has saved something.

I know right to find those skunk traits would be a really....
WOW !!!

it's like we're looking for hidden treasure...

But really though there's a whole gang of people here in my area that want us to find the skunk.
They're looking as well. We are all coming up with dead ends. Well maybe not so much dead ends I guess, but just not finding what we're looking for, that elusive skunk of the of the 70s / 80s.

I know it can be found. it was made once it can be made again. I don't think the the strain is lost forever. But it might be diluted but it's not lost forever...

Well I can't wait to see what you come up with.

I'll ordering some of these original skunk #1 seeds that I've been seeing from like Growers choice and there is a few others breeders.

In fact Sunday when I got some time I will send out emails to all these breeders that I have on this list I made up of Skunk seeds breeder's and ask them specifically about the traits that we're looking for in their seeds.

Let's see what kind of feedback we get... Maybe that's a good idea before I start throwing my money around. There's a lot of breeders out there claim they got the original skunk at least 25 of them anyways.
There Maybe more ?

Happy hunting

 

[Growtogrow]

Well Houston we got a problem.

Yep so when I was doing the Kush chiropractics to the Fire OG Kush girls. I found one of them to have balls they weren't all girls. What in the hell...

The big one that came up on her own from last year. It was giving me no sign of gender until about 4 or 5 days ago. Then I started noticing what looked to me like it had a little mushroom heads. popping up

I had thought about saving some of the pollen just cutting a bunch of the branches off and then bag one branch with some bananas on it until they pop. But then I got to thinking you know what maybe it might be a hermaphrodite it doesn't act like one but I was just like why.

So he got the wackadilly...

So I still had two purebred Fire OG Kush from big head seeds in the front of the three. It's good to have all your bases covered. Sure I'm glad I ordered them seeds this spring. They may have cost a lot to get him here but at least I got them.

But these two girls that are up front they aren't very big.

I've spread them out best I can and I'll start working with these girls and see if I can't save my Fire OG Kush crop for this year.

Wow what a kicking the shorts that was