Indoor Growing Scrog

I removed some of the sugar leafs growing out of the buds in a small part of the tent. As you can see they are hiding many budsides as can be seen in the pictured below. I am just concerned if it is safe to do so/does it increase yield

Definitely defer to 420 or DOA if they chime in, but my limited experience has taught me to remove sugar leaves that are mostly blocking healthy buds just below them. I try to do a 'hover over the top of the plant' every few days and clear out light blocking sugar leaves. For example, this leaf or two, or portions of the leaves, from a crop of your photo ...

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Update on big blue. My thoughts were to take it easy on her for a few days after the heavy defol so I haven't really done much. Tried to move somethings around for better spacing but that's it. Mon she was fine still thin. Tues same. Wed top canopy was coming back. Tonight I was sat back a bit. She's kinda thick.

@420autoflower what's the play here boss? It's only been 5 days since stripping her. Should I let her go until next weekend and strip her again? Maybe just some solid defol daily and keep her thinned out?

From this point until formed buds is the part of the grow I'm the most uncertain about.

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Big momma! ( Glad you double netted her. You'll have way less larf. )
 
Big momma! ( Glad you double netted her. You'll have way less larf. )
Im definitely learning a few things about the net process and how i can improve. The double was huge but not executed the best.

There is so much foliage. Thought I knew what was needed but Im starting to get lost again. Its the how much and when for me. Ive read 420 talk about "4-5 full schwazzings" and "removing 500-700 leaves a day". I understand the basic stuff but how do I know when to go heavy with the full schwazz. I bet our great leader will share some words of wisdom when he gets a chance.

I have 2 vivosun 100w panels not being used if some under lighting is needed in the future.
 
Update on big blue. My thoughts were to take it easy on her for a few days after the heavy defol so I haven't really done much. Tried to move somethings around for better spacing but that's it. Mon she was fine still thin. Tues same. Wed top canopy was coming back. Tonight I was sat back a bit. She's kinda thick.

@420autoflower what's the play here boss? It's only been 5 days since stripping her. Should I let her go until next weekend and strip her again? Maybe just some solid defol daily and keep her thinned out?

From this point until formed buds is the part of the grow I'm the most uncertain about.

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Long time ago I went through most of the thread and saved some of 420's examples of just after schwazz.
Here's one. Might be a bit older than your plant. ( In the meantime, if it were me, I'd get
in the middle and take the leaves necessary to remove all the 'darkness'. )


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Definitely defer to 420 or DOA if they chime in, but my limited experience has taught me to remove sugar leaves that are mostly blocking healthy buds just below them. I try to do a 'hover over the top of the plant' every few days and clear out light blocking sugar leaves. For example, this leaf or two, or portions of the leaves, from a crop of your photo ...

Today i went with my gut and did exactly that before ive read your reply. Seemed like the right thing to do! Thank you :)
 
Been doing some homework. Page 16 post #155 and #160 are a pretty good how-to reference. Found some pics that are similar to big momma's stage and foliage. Based on 420's third leaf strip in that #160 post Im going to strip her again. This should let me rearrange the 2nd net and spread her out better.

Edit: forgot about mongoose's pic above. that plant is even farther along than the one i ran across. I was nervous removing a lot of leaves at this stage would hinder bud development.

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Day 38. Dutch Passion Lemon Kix.
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Good job @Mongoose! :d5:
She’s got some nice side branching. :thumbsup:

Hello,

This is say 60 of apple strudel by fastbuds. Would you guys schwazz this plant a 2nd time? Many fan Leafs come from within the buds...is it ssfe to remove them also?
Yes, it’s fine… but going to be tough not to brush up against your frosty buds. I use one of my longer bent coat hanger stakes to push the branches to the side with one hand while I pluck with the other.
So...while I do my SMC photos (see my other post in DP section of the forum), my wife asked if she could eventually bring me to ditch one of them for a red tropicana. No way i do that, but I told her, here is the bean, here is a grodan cube, and here is a link to the scrog post. Now that's 16 days ago, that little plant does better than I expected. Little yellowing at first but now all fine. Tbh, she never started reading but asked me for help instead...lol. Well, I do my best...but let her do. 2nd 6x6 now since yesterday.

I think it's time to add automated watering as it starts to annoy feeding every few hours by hand.
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Off to a great start @Nightqueen! 😉

Update on big blue. My thoughts were to take it easy on her for a few days after the heavy defol so I haven't really done much. Tried to move somethings around for better spacing but that's it. Mon she was fine still thin. Tues same. Wed top canopy was coming back. Tonight I was sat back a bit. She's kinda thick.

@420autoflower what's the play here boss? It's only been 5 days since stripping her. Should I let her go until next weekend and strip her again? Maybe just some solid defol daily and keep her thinned out?

From this point until formed buds is the part of the grow I'm the most uncertain about.

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I usually give a couple weeks in between the big schwazzings but I still defoliate the tops daily. The main goal in the early stages of flower is to give enough light to the lower part of your plant so the nodes on the bottom don’t die out from lack of light and airflow. For now I would just maintain your tops and do another full strip top/bottom at the end of next week. Keep spreading her limbs out further on your top net and add some under canopy lighting in a week or two if you want to maximize full potential. When she hits her bulking stage and concentrates more on cola production instead of growing foliage is when she’s going to need all the light she can get. If your bottom net is in the way feel free to cut it out since your top net is doing a good enough job keeping your branches spread out. From your side profile pics I can see that your bottom net wasn’t tight enough allowing your flat canopy to grow up instead of out, would be good in the future to keep the net tighter by anchoring it to your tray or some weights that sit on the ground. For good examples you can see how I hold down my nets in my 2x4’, 4x4’ and 5x5’ tents.
Definitely defer to 420 or DOA if they chime in, but my limited experience has taught me to remove sugar leaves that are mostly blocking healthy buds just below them. I try to do a 'hover over the top of the plant' every few days and clear out light blocking sugar leaves. For example, this leaf or two, or portions of the leaves, from a crop of your photo ...

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:yeahthat:
Pluck the sugar leaves if your canopy is dense and you need more light and airflow down below.

Long time ago I went through most of the thread and saved some of 420's examples of just after schwazz.
Here's one. Might be a bit older than your plant. ( In the meantime, if it were me, I'd get
in the middle and take the leaves necessary to remove all the 'darkness'. )


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Those were a couple Jack Herers I grew for ILGM back in 2024.
Brings back some good memories. 😊
They both stretched more than I expected but I kept my net tight and super cropped branches flat by tying down to my tent expander poles with green gardening wire.
 
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From your side profile pics I can see that your bottom net wasn’t tight enough
I noticed that too. Its one of the things Im taking note of to improve on the next one. Ive seen how you drilled holes in the tray and tied the wire cross then tie down the middle of the net to it. At one point kinda early on I hung a gallon jug with some water in it to pull one side of the net down but ended up taking it off. I'll work something out.

Again massive appreciation for your help and time.
 
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