Flushing vs. Flushing

Flushing is damaging to your plants and and a waste of time, you CAN'T flush anything from a plant. Science disproves this myth yet people cling to it. Read up on how plants take in nutrients and WHAT they can take in, its an eye opener!
 
Flushing is damaging to your plants and and a waste of time, you CAN'T flush anything from a plant. Science disproves this myth yet people cling to it. Read up on how plants take in nutrients and WHAT they can take in, its an eye opener!

So no flush at 30-40 days (switch to bloom nutes) and 14 days before harvest?
With first I mean 30L of water through pot and with second I mean water only.
 
the only "flushing" that MIGHT be of use is when there are obvious signs of over feeding causing lockout or ph being too high or low. Even then, the chance of the plant being worth much afterwards is not great. And why would you starve a plant right when it needs its nutrients the most? Thats all "flushing" is doing, its not removing anything that's been taken into the plant.
Contrary to what many believe, changing your nutrients to bloom nutes has NO bearing on when or how fast your plant enters flowering. 2 things you can't do, no matter how much we'd like to are: You cannot force feed plants, and you can't change the blooming process with anything other than proper light timing or hormones.

So no flush at 30-40 days (switch to bloom nutes) and 14 days before harvest?
With first I mean 30L of water through pot and with second I mean water only.
 
I agree with last two lines, it's just a diferent NPK ratio, nothing more. Hormones are diferent story, yes.

However... I was thinking if we constantly bomb soil/plants with nutes, then when we give plants only water for 14 days, they use that excess nutes from soil. So it's basicaly the same if we fed with smaller doses till the harvest day. Guess I am wrong here. :biggrin: But guys say buds are tastier with less chemical taste if we fed only water last 14 days or so. Hmm...
 
yep, people say that.....and you hit the nail on the head, people flush because they over feed thinking they can force the plant to take more and grow bigger. Nope, doesn't work that way, and anything that goes into the plant, stays in the plant. I've got $50 that says, NO ONE can tell the difference between flushed and unflushed, or organic vs nutrient solution. I've tested this many times and I still have my $50......... take the time to learn why. Everyone should read this or similar it will enlighten all to the workings of roots and other plant biology:



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I agree with last two lines, it's just a diferent NPK ratio, :eek:thing more. Hormones are diferent story, yes.

However... I was thinking if we constantly bomb soil/plants with nutes, then when we give plants only water for 14 days, they use that excess nutes from soil. So it's basicaly the same if we fed with smaller doses till the harvest day. Guess I am wrong here. :biggrin: But guys say buds are tastier with less chemical taste if we fed only water last 14 days or so. Hmm...
 
I don't see attachment, could you please upload somewhere else? @pop22

So... this drive me to another question: how you know when you over fed? Nutrient burn?
I'm still learning, and I see a lot of misconceptions on forums, basicaly bro tips without knowledge behind it. I love to read and knowing mechanism behind every move (I'm specialised in people hormones, so want to know the same for my plants). :d5:
 
So take this with a grain of salt and know that the actual practice is completely new to me, please chime in if I am completely out in left field. My understanding is that the only real impact flushing has at the end of the bloom is to force the shutdown of photosynthesis through loss of nutrient uptake which stops the production of chlorophyll which begins the process of shutting down the plant, in essence extending the drying time into the time before the plant is even harvested. The more slowly and steadily you dry the less chlorophyll stays in the bud and the less harsh the smoke. Hence the leaves turning color during flush, no more nutrients no more Chlorophyll, no more chlorophyll no more green. I would love to try just letting a plant flush until all of the green is out of the leaves and cutting one earlier while there is still green and see that the difference is in taste.
 
/the problem with that idea is no drying is happening, just plant starvation. And even after 10 days, the buds are still healthy and active, just slowed down. The sugars in your bud, even after a "flush" period, are loaded with sugars. It's the curing process that eliminates sugars and chlorophyll by breaking them down. You want all the Chlorophyll gone? Let the plant die and dry out on the stalk............

So take this with a grain of salt and know that the actual practice is completely new to me, please chime in if I am completely out in left field. My understanding is that the only real impact flushing has at the end of the bloom is to force the shutdown of photosynthesis through loss of nutrient uptake which stops the production of chlorophyll which begins the process of shutting down the plant, in essence extending the drying time into the time before the plant is even harvested. The more slowly and steadily you dry the less chlorophyll stays in the bud and the less harsh the smoke. Hence the leaves turning color during flush, no more nutrients no more Chlorophyll, no more chlorophyll no more green. I would love to try just letting a plant flush until all of the green is out of the leaves and cutting one earlier while there is still green and see that the difference is in taste.
 
@pop22 Thanks, that makes good sense. Like I said all really new to me and I still have a ton to learn. It's also very possible that I miss understood what was told to me. There is so much, "Well this worked for me" out there that I have been really working to understand the science as much as possible but so far I have found little to really talk about this subject from a plant physiology perspective.
 
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