Flushing: The Myth that won't Die

[pop22]

Interesting!

Far as I know it's just an RSS feed reader, but I haven't pointed at this site yet. I was going to experiment with live stoners and see if there is a way to view those feeds in a messenger app. Via the RSS feed.

 

[diskokobaja]

I'm too stupid for such a long and professional aricle, if I get it right, last two weeks only water is reccomended??

 

[RickX]

Guys im trying my best but... my english and scientific language levels together are too much for my brain...

I understand we want an isotonic solution? doesnt that mean that just "nothing is gonna happen"?. Why this is good? My logic tells me that sounds better to have a high concentration of nutes inside the cell for it to get "just water" from outside, but ofc in the end that makes nosense cos it had to be taken at some point before... i'm going in circles right now
Does that mean that the EC inside the plant has to be the same than the water we add to keep that balance once achieved? So confused

 

[Mossy]

@pop22

They Like your WP article...

Very interesting and informative article. It’s good to get down in the weeds, so to speak.

462 Hits on it..you have just taken first place..

 

[MedGrower]

Alright folks. I am ready to swallow my pride and test out if I do everything the same I do these days, except I just won't phase out the nutrients at the final week of my DWC grow, how will the bud compare to the previous grows. And I won't tell my wife anything about it (muhahaha!) so she will not have any prejudice that might affect her judgement. And after some weeks I will ask how she likes the product...

After reading this article through couple times carefully, it makes sense to me. There ofcourse are many other contributors to the smoothness of your final product so maybe many have first done so many other things wrong at the same time and after changing many variables they have arrived into a false conclusion that flushing is the thing that makes their end product smoother. Even though it might have been just correct amount of nutrients, correct way to cure etc.

 

[KushNFT]

Alright folks. I am ready to swallow my pride and test out if I do everything the same I do these days, except I just won't phase out the nutrients at the final week of my DWC grow, how will the bud compare to the previous grows. And I won't tell my wife anything about it (muhahaha!) so she will not have any prejudice that might affect her judgement. And after some weeks I will ask how she likes the product...

After reading this article through couple times carefully, it makes sense to me. There ofcourse are many other contributors to the smoothness of your final product so maybe many have first done so many other things wrong at the same time and after changing many variables they have arrived into a false conclusion that flushing is the thing that makes their end product smoother. Even though it might have been just correct amount of nutrients, correct way to cure etc.

Whilst I'm the camp that avoids flushing I'm also in the camp that grows in active reservoirs and uses pH and EC meters so it looks like nutrient uptake tends to tail off at the end anyway. In that last week of your DWC grow would you expect to need to add nutes to maintain the EC anyway? I don't use buffered nutes so have to do the pH thing but after the final res change chances are I'll only be adding water and pH down as the EC hardly shifts at the end.

 

[MedGrower]

Whilst I'm the camp that avoids flushing I'm also in the camp that grows in active reservoirs and uses pH and EC meters so it looks like nutrient uptake tends to tail off at the end anyway. In that last week of your DWC grow would you expect to need to add nutes to maintain the EC anyway? I don't use buffered nutes so have to do the pH thing but after the final res change chances are I'll only be adding water and pH down as the EC hardly shifts at the end.

You are absolutely right about that bro. I've also seen the lesser need of the nutes at the end anyway and I tend to feed about minimum of 0.2 EC less stronger feed when I change the reservoir.

 

[Corgy]

Whilst I'm the camp that avoids flushing I'm also in the camp that grows in active reservoirs and uses pH and EC meters so it looks like nutrient uptake tends to tail off at the end anyway. In that last week of your DWC grow would you expect to need to add nutes to maintain the EC anyway? I don't use buffered nutes so have to do the pH thing but after the final res change chances are I'll only be adding water and pH down as the EC hardly shifts at the end.

That is exactly what I see too, they don't take much at the end. Wonder if chilies act the same way.... I digress....

Regarding flushing, watch Niel dabble in photosynthesis from 4.20, one of the best explanations I've ever seen, and then ask yourself if wading in there with a water hose to cleanse the neighborhood seems like a swell sensical idea.... Or watch from the beginning to meet some of the creatures that lives in a single drop of all that flushing goodness....

 

[dirtbag]

Really great reading @pop22 thanks for taking time to share! I Will certainly keep my eyes on this thread to see how folk react to a non flush/cleanse end to the cycle !

Would be an incredibly big myth to bust since pretty much all the nute schedules (both from company's and by growers alike) refer to a cleanse period of straight water (which doesn't make them any extra money ???)

But I'm rooting for a non flush finish (no pun intended) !!

 

[pop22]

No one wants to admit to being misled, or fooled. But the truth is, we've all been mislead, sometimes it was not intentional, sometimes it is. Regardless, in order to have a better product and a better harvest, we have to do things RIGHT, and we can't if we've been told wrong. And we don't know because we accept what we're told too easily sometimes, especially if what we are told agrees with our sensibilities, if not our common sense.