Flushing: The Myth that won't Die

[Kakarot]

No one wants to admit to being misled, or fooled. But the truth is, we've all been mislead, sometimes it was not intentional, sometimes it is. Regardless, in order to have a better product and a better harvest, we have to do things RIGHT, and we can't if we've been told wrong. And we don't know because we accept what we're told too easily sometimes, especially if what we are told agrees with our sensibilities, if not our common sense.

Preach it brotha POPS, I like that you brought up this topic because I know for a fact that it is indeed the truth when you say that flushing does not make a shit. I used to do flushes 12 gallons through a 3 gallon smart pot ash always burned white and I thought it all was worth the extra effort I was putting into these flushes at the end.. Well one day I was carrying a Red Poison auto and it was damn near done maybe 2 weeks out and I actually was going to start the flush but I dropped her and broke her in half and had no choice but to harvest. I had another Red Poison and Mohan Ram that both got flushed while the Red Poison I dropped with no flush was drying.. Well when all was said and done 100% true story THERE WAS NO DIERENCE IN THE SMOKE OR TASTE/SMELL and I use SeaGrow. Hell I did not have time to flush my last grow, she was a Yumbolt-47 PhotoPeriod and I had to chop,dry and get the hell out of the apt. I had time to run 9 gallons through her but ended up chopping 3 hours later so there was no way in hell she had time to uptake the water... and what a surprise taste like grapes,smells like mangos,burns smooth and ASH IS WHITE.. People need to learn to cope with the fact that flushing is bullshit and just extra work... hard work if you use soil and do everything manually.. So PREACH ON I SAY.

 

[Yeatster]

Firs year growing. Flushed first couple harvests. Read up on the debate and decided to try the "cleanse", or tap water for the final 10 days. I won't flush again.

 

[BII]

For those of us not beholden to the "myth," what should we do? What are some recommendations or the better options for managing nutrient and fluid intake in the plant's last few days or weeks?

 

[Kakarot]

For those of us not beholden to the "myth," what should we do? What are some recommendations or the better options for managing nutrient and fluid intake in the plant's last few days or weeks?

I am no expert but I would much rather feed just plain old water for a few days prior to the chop than drown with 3x the pot size.

 

[BII]

I am no expert but I would much rather feed just plain old water for a few days prior to the chop than drown with 3x the pot size.

I am no expert at all, but I just feed my plants well right up to harvesting them. Or I may even up the nutes a small amount to hopefully push the plant and get more out of using Overdrive in the last days/weeks. I want my plants well fed, hydrated and maximally producing desired resins right to the very end. So far, I haven't seen any downsides from doing this; and theoretically it seems better than any of the flush and starve options. Am I missing something? What are the downsides of feeding your plant right up to the end?

 

[Kakarot]

I am no expert at all, but I just feed my plants well right up to harvesting them. Or I may even up the nutes a small amount to hopefully push the plant and get more out of using Overdrive in the last days/weeks. I want my plants well fed, hydrated and maximally producing desired resins right to the very end. So far, I haven't seen any downsides from doing this; and theoretically it seems better than any of the flush and starve options. Am I missing something? What are the downsides of feeding your plant right up to the end?

A lot of people claim that when you feed with synthetic nutes like SeaGrow,Advanced Nutrients etc that if you do not do a flush to "cleans nutes out of the buds" that the smoke will be harsh and the ash will turn into funky black shit instead of white ash which a lot of people consider to be burnin dirty and not clean. I am not going to lie I used to flush and swear by it just like the next guy, until I broke that one plant and could not flush. It just so happens that I grew two so after I broke the one and it was drying I went on flushing the other one. They both were dried and cured for the same amount of time and the smoke,smell,taste and burn were EXACTLY the SAME. Thus why I am on this crusade with PopS [emoji12][emoji854][emoji12]


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[KushNFT]

Really great reading @pop22 thanks for taking time to share! I Will certainly keep my eyes on this thread to see how folk react to a non flush/cleanse end to the cycle !

Would be an incredibly big myth to bust since pretty much all the nute schedules (both from company's and by growers alike) refer to a cleanse period of straight water (which doesn't make them any extra money ???)

But I'm rooting for a non flush finish (no pun intended) !!

Which nutes companies say flush at the end? Name and shame! The Ionic hydro ones I use say feed them all the way.

 

[dirtbag]

@KushNFT I only really have experience with AN and Biobizz.
Both of them suggest at least a week of water at the end of a cycle .

But i think some people here are being confused and think this thread relates to Flushing (lots of Water) and Cleansing (final week or two on straight H20).

Correct me if I'm wrong @pop22 but i think your suggesting that neither of these techniques are of any use (could actually do harm).
And the idea is to keep going with Nutrients until the very day your royal concubines meet there maker !!!

 

[KushNFT]

@KushNFT I only really have experience with AN and Biobizz.
Both of them suggest at least a week of water at the end of a cycle .

But i think some people here are being confused and think this thread relates to Flushing (lots of Water) and Cleansing (final week or two on straight H20).

Correct me if I'm wrong @pop22 but i think your suggesting that neither of these techniques are of any use (could actually do harm).
And the idea is to keep going with Nutrients until the very day your royal concubines meet there maker !!!

I guess those schedules are intended for soil which will have nutes in it anyway?

In hydro I think things are a bit clearer cut when there is little to no medium to retain or produce nutrients. All I've used there is IONIC hydro grow and bloom so I've limited experience too.

 

[pop22]

ok, lets call ir cleansing. As to flushing soil with ph/salts problems, IMO by the time you flush the damage is done, then you wash away ALL nutrients. Then add them back to the soil....three weeks recovery for your plant right there. Unless you had to do this very early in veg, your plant may recover but is not likely to produce like it would have. I've even tried it. Should have just tossed the plants and not wasted the space on them!

Yep, feed them till chop, then dry and cure them properly, THAT is how to get the sugars out of your bud! Sugars are all that can be removed.

@KushNFT I only really have experience with AN and Biobizz.
Both of them suggest at least a week of water at the end of a cycle .

But i think some people here are being confused and think this thread relates to Flushing (lots of Water) and Cleansing (final week or two on straight H20).

Correct me if I'm wrong @pop22 but i think your suggesting that neither of these techniques are of any use (could actually do harm).
And the idea is to keep going with Nutrients until the very day your royal concubines meet there maker !!!