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[glaucoma]

Yeah - its a good question and one I dont really know the answer for. In my case and most cases I guess we have just followed tradition. Used to be the case that in one state over cannabis was all but decriminilised and people from Adeliade (where u could grow a cple without legal concern) smoked green so Ive always put it down to mixing it with tobacco helps spread it out and especially when theres a few Aussie males sitting around a mix tends to dissapear pretty fast. Silly thing is I guess just makes us smoke twice as much with the ciggie carconigens added. Thing is, since its the norm here ya get used to it and greener blends seem harder to pull and make cough more and rip the throat more - dont get me wrong though, not saying nicotine is particularly good for throats and coughs). Once I get a supply coming in though Ill be weaning myself off the ciggarette mix and be going totally green as a much better health choice and to appreciate the taste of the different strains better. I do smoke cigs here too and I reckon if I can cut it out of my canna smoke Ill have a much better chance of cutting down or quiting the actual cigs.

It kinda sucks because since its so wide-spread its a (the) major factor in bad health due to smoking canna so since tobacco and canna go hand in hand, canna and carcinogens go hand in hand as far as the wider public is concerned - makes something with health benefits seem very unhealthy to those who don't stop and look into why...

I won't hit any joint with tobacco in it.

I'd always wondered this - whether in places that green whether tobacco is in the . I thought it would to help the burning process as much as anything but I guess thats also the difference in properly dried and cured canna compared to some of the wetness we get here.

It'll make me cough like hell at first but am looking forward to a much more purer over time
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[Rebel]

I agree with Nelson. Here in the states we smoke straight MJ. Only people I knew of that mix it are Islanders... Mostly from the Carribean. My Wife's cousin's husband is Jamaican and I won't smoke with him because that's what he does. I can't stand ciggs. Never could... I've tried ciggs many times and all they do is make me light headed nauseous and motion sickness like effects. Me and tobacco don't mix lol so I don't mix it with my green.

I'm sure once you smoke pure green you will never want to grow back. Forgot to mention to you that my wife quit smoking 4 yrs ago and that has also helped her vision remain more stable and helped stopped the RP.

Properly cured MJ and the resinous strains will burn nice and slow. Kush burns so nice and slow a joint lasts me and the wife over an hour. Trust me that is pure myth that MJ will burn faster. I think you said it best when you said it's probably more of a waste. Any strain grown, dried, and cured properly should burn evenly and slow. Just my honest opinion. :smoke:

 

[glaucoma]

hhmmm, yet another reason to put a big tick next to the Kush

surprises me that Jamaicans also mix tobacco - thought they out of anyone would just be rolling big fat green ones. I was thinking about this again earlier and I think Aus has a fairly high ciggarette smoking rate in comparison to other "similar" countries (even though they are super expensive here due to huge amounts of Tax on them) so I guess it seems "logical" to mix the two. A lot of/most mj smokers also smoke cigs which is prob partly due to the fact they are mixed. I personally smoked grass before I did cigs - just sorta went hand in hand. My last mix was more green than usual so will continue to mix less and less till hopefully very soon its just pure Green O Matic

Sunday arvo here at moment. Im thinking might take her outside tomorrow if weather is nice (Need to do some work on grow room and make some room) for what will possibly be her last day. Will try and snap some pics and lights out tonight and see how is loking and will check again in morning tomorrow obviously before deciding but wld be nice to have her in the fresh air for the last day and either chop tomorrow night or put her somewhere for an extended dark period and chop Tues night. Really though, Ill try and let her tell me what to do. Have still been good and not taken a test bud but if I dont chop tomorrow night I think I might have to take a little bud off and start her drying...

hope everyones keeping well
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[Rebel]

I know what you mean bro! It's hard to resist when you're dry and there's one just about ready...

Yeah I woulda thought that too of dude but every time he'd roll a big ol' blunt he'd put Tops Tobacco in it... YUK. You guys probably don't have Tops but it's just like a big coffee can filled with cheap tobacco for people who roll their own ciggs. That shite is HARSH by itself... Just makes a good thing shitty to me! LOL Maybe not all Jamaican's do it... He's probably just a cheap ass! LOL No offense to you Aussies or any one who does that lol I was just trying to be funny!

 

[glaucoma]

no offence mate - was laughing


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[glaucoma]

G'day folks - getting closer - definetely open to advice as to how much longer pple think these should go? Is 12.15am here - lights off for a while and nearly time for bed. Im hoping to give them an extended dark time before chopping so all input wlcome as to the whens. cheers. Ive been good and not taken a test bud yet but getting closer to snipping one off - more excited about nearly having the first full crop in though:smoke:
Day 62

GOM


and what Ive been calling Blueberry though again I may have put wrong name to seed. Very yellow leaved like is ended but that may well be my over ferting along the way and possible N deficiency?ph rpobs (havent wanted to give N while close to finish and still waiting on ph pen). Any advice on this one is most welcome


cheers folks
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[Mossy]

Ive been good and not taken a test bud yet but getting closer to snipping one
off -

TIME to test bud both of those girls IMO...

Test budding is Really Important for med growers are milky..has a different effect to amber..
and you need to find out which is right for you...
and what point in the grow they occur..

Typically on the affy doms..you might take your Energy giving smoke off at around 7.5 weeks...
and your Knock-out bud at around 9 weeks.

but it varies cross to cross..patient to patient.

Being Honest..I Think that the Ambers may be a bit too Strong if you are New to using canna as meds.

Try Small amounts and work your way up..:smokebuds:


Really Hard to tell the difference on your girls because I have seen both those phenos in the Mazar..
But..
when I remarked that the JEM really resembeld some of the BLUE line..I was told that it was because the was a F-off big Affy at the start of the blue line..
so they could be kissing cousins as far a phenotypical traits go...

---------- Post added 10-03-2011 at 03:13 PM ----------

My JEM/Mazar does Really carry the yellowing leaf trait as she goes over though....
so Best Guess..
would be the Second plant is your Maz..but it IS only a Guess...

 

[glaucoma]

cheers mate

you know, when I was looking at the pics I was thinking the same thing as far is "blueberry" most likely being Mazar - Just the hints of purples in there. Its making me smile to to know its almost ready as its the kinda genepool that is appealing to me at moment.

Glad to hear you say test bud time - will cut one off each before lights on tomorrow - or tonight if I cant sleep.

Whilst my first grow, I have been using canna as meds for many years now - with the glaucoma it is the only thing that brings my pressure levels down to a somewhat normal level and gets rid of the pain (like someone stabbing through the back of the head, into back of the eye when real bad) and with the multiple crapped out discs and resulting probs (and unable to take any painkillers for those since they all send eye pressure up) its a necessity. To be honest, without it I don't think Id still be here, That said, Definetely will be taking your advice as far as amber and effects etc go as I definetely want to dial my needs in properly over time - even if it just gives me an excuse to test bud!! At the moment Ive got what I think (can only guess) is a sati and really not doing much for the back and can feel its not the best strain for the eye pressure so I am definetely keen to get the Afs/Indicas into the system!

Cheers matey - big smile here at moment - has been way way way overdue that I start providing my own and being that seeing the intricacies - whether they be bad (deficiencys, burns etc) or good (bud, tric formation etc) - help such as yrs and all the info on the forum in general is invaluable.
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[glaucoma]

well, that deed is done - first test buds taken from those two and now hanging - will prob take one from the other girl tomorrow morning and heck, Id say at least one of the girls will be coming down completely some stage tomorrow.

felt so good to make those first little snips and take off what will hopefully be the first of many - felt even better knowing I can now take a course of action to help retain my eyesight (pain relief is a bonus as are the giggles) whilst not having to apy a fortune to do so and not knowing what meds/nutes etc etc are in store.

Almst bed time here - as long as Im not too excited too sleep!!
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[Mossy]

you know, when I was looking at the pics I was thinking the same thing
as far
is "blueberry" most likely being Mazar - Just the hints of purples in there.

Yup..as I was homeworking JEM..I was keep coming back to bb looking
phenos..

I Think the bb May be More Berry tasting/smelling..but if you don't have the
berry pheno..that is not much help...

Whilst my first grow, I have been using canna as meds for many years
now

Brilliant...:thumbs:...

people Think you are taking the P when you say a pheno can be too
strong..

but they can be for a Noob..
and
if you say got a Whitey straight in..it might put you off medicating.

To be honest, without it I don't think Id still be here,

No..no-one can Live in unremitting pain for very long...it destroys your Soul..

I know we did put a 6 month limit on how long I felt I could go on living
with the pain levels I had..

Luckily..I Found canna..AND the doctors found a non-drug way to help my
pain..combined..
they gave me the light at the end of the tunnel I Needed to see to go on


I Needed Hope..:smokebuds:

That said, Definetely will be taking your advice as far as amber and effects

etc go as I definetely want to dial my needs in properly over time - even if
it
just gives me an excuse to test bud!!

You will see...there is a Big Difference on the two Stages..

I Don't know if it is the same with All crosses..But..All my affy doms do
it.
It gives you the chance to be able to get two different Med effects from the
same cross..


so..if you are short of money..like a lot of med patients are..it saves you
having to buy two different crosses.


It also gives you the chance to make day-time..and night-time meds..

with energy for day/work/life..and amber for nighty-nighty ones.

At the moment Ive got what I think (can only guess) is a sati and
really not
doing much for the back and can feel its not the best strain for
the eye
pressure so I am definetely keen to get the Afs/Indicas into the
system!

I get the mood-lift..enjoyment out of satis..
but they do Naff all for my pain..sometime actually seem to increase it..
and..
for Me..
it is ALL about the pain.

well, that deed is done - first test buds taken from those two and now

hanging - will prob take one from the other girl tomorrow morning and heck,
Id
say at least one of the girls will be coming down completely some stage

tomorrow.

Nice slow over-night dry..if you can Wait...
you won't get Best taste..but you Should get a Good idea of Effect..

(S..don't microwave it dry..:no:...)

felt even better knowing I can now take a course of action to help
retain my
eyesight (pain relief is a bonus as are the giggles) whilst not
having to apy a
fortune to do so and not knowing what meds/nutes etc etc are
in store.

Amen..:clap:...if the Doctors can't Help us..we Need to Help ourselves...


Remember when you Test...you might get a 3 hour sleep..so time it round your
day appropriately...
and don't forget to Padlock the Fridge...


BTW..is glaucoma classed as an Immune disease..?