New Grower First Grow, WW,NL and Cream Caramel, Far from what it should be, but hopefully will get there

[FreeLivin]

Another quick update, I flushed the NL with a lil over a gal of RO water with PH of 6.4, my run off was about 6.1 again, waited to see any response today and more damage, I checked what was left of the run off and it was at 6.7, weird, I cleaned it up and just gave it another flush-kinda, used reg tap water this time cause I'm out of RO water and set it's PH to 6.5, and checked the run off, it was 5.9, WTF, ok, so I checked the PH pen and it seemed ok, ran another half gal through her at 6.6 and same, then ran it at 7.0 and got 6.1 again at run off. Should I go higher like to 7.3 and check it, I know it's a lot of water the past couple of days (using h202 with water against recommendations of killing microbes but I need the roots the breath with all this water) but I think this is a major issue. I'm going to give it one more around 7.3 or so and see what happens, Hope I don't regret this but it's dying way to quick, so soon it won't matter.


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[FreeLivin]

Well I'm at a loss, I've just spent the last couple hours flushing the shit out of her with tap water which says it has a ph of about 9, I finally got a reading of 6.3 at runoff and then gave her a small feeding of ph water at 6.7 with 1 tbs of nutes, checked and ph runoff was back to 6.0, I wanna strangle something, why such fluctuations, I have a shitty PH pen but every time I check the tap it's consistent and seems to be close in color when I check it with the dye, grr so aggravating.

Q. Do people who click they like these posts, especially the ones which do nothing but describe a problem and offer nothing good in regards to pics or info actually read these posts? Very few people seem to comment on them but click the like icon, seems a lil odd, I only click on things I actually like and or deem important, not ones of people devastated over problems occurring. Sorry, I'm just in one of those moods now and have no meds

 

[nomis]

I clicked like because you gave a very good description of your issue, and I'm also having some weird pH issues too, but alas I have nothing to suggest as I'm a newb. I'm hoping someone will more knowledge will come by and see people liking the post and give a pro answer. I'm investigating dolomite lime for my ph issues, but not sure what's best for you. :Sharing One:

 

[nomis]

Just to add, I'm using OF with distilled water ph'ed to 9.5 for the last few weeks to get 6.5 runoff, which is bad but the plant is doing well it seems. Anything less and she goes out of wack into the high 4's and low 5's and leaves start dying fast. I thought it was because I left the bag under a pine tree for 3 months, but seems others are having some issues as well. Maybe changed the buffering or who knows what, I'm still reading through plenty of other OF threads.

Hang in there man!

 

[FreeLivin]

Just to add, I'm using OF with distilled water ph'ed to 9.5 for the last few weeks to get 6.5 runoff, which is bad but the plant is doing well it seems. Anything less and she goes out of wack into the high 4's and low 5's and leaves start dying fast. I thought it was because I left the bag under a pine tree for 3 months, but seems others are having some issues as well. Maybe changed the buffering or who knows what, I'm still reading through plenty of other OF threads.

Hang in there man!

Hey Nomis, thanks for the reply, I'm a newbie too but I see a few others who aren't clicking like but never have a reply for the most part, I was just in a foul mood to begin with. That's crazy you have to use 9.5 to get 6.5, Seems I'm in the same boat, but it just started about two weeks ago, was fine before that. I don't know what's changed other than I used epsom salt for mag and I think it may have blocked some other nutes and may have been changing the Ph if it built up, but I'm just guessing at this point. Hopefully this flush will help.. What are you growing currently, and what kind of nutes are you using? Just thinking there might be something too it. Well Thanks again for the reply, best wishes to you and your grows.



4ThePeople

 

[FreeLivin]

Just to add, I'm using OF with distilled water ph'ed to 9.5 for the last few weeks to get 6.5 runoff, which is bad but the plant is doing well it seems. Anything less and she goes out of wack into the high 4's and low 5's and leaves start dying fast. I thought it was because I left the bag under a pine tree for 3 months, but seems others are having some issues as well. Maybe changed the buffering or who knows what, I'm still reading through plenty of other OF threads.

Hang in there man!

Hey Nomis, thanks for the reply, I'm a newbie too but I see a few others who aren't clicking like but never have a reply for the most part, I was just in a foul mood to begin with. That's crazy you have to use 9.5 to get 6.5, Seems I'm in the same boat, but it just started about two weeks ago, was fine before that. I don't know what's changed other than I used epsom salt for mag and I think it may have blocked some other nutes and may have been changing the Ph if it built up, but I'm just guessing at this point. Hopefully this flush will help.. What are you growing currently, and what kind of nutes are you using? Just thinking there might be something too it. Well Thanks again for the reply, best wishes to you and your grows.



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[DABaracuss]

LOL member we are all medicated folks around here and lots of people need help..there is always the infirmary if you have an issue thats not getting answers also that lil PM thing works too LOL first you need to let the plant dry out really good roots need air..you may have molded the roots with all the flushing..I would put some root stim or jumpstart/thrive or something..for your roots.it takes a few days 4 or 5 depending on the pot size but if the plant is not taking up water it will take a while...did you add extra perlite to your soil? Ill get you more eyes on this ! also make sure to bubble the water and wait min 12 hours before use 24hrs is best but I would use it right out the tap like that kills good things in the soil.:tiphat:

 

[FreeLivin]

Hey D, thanks again for a reply, I did post in the infirmary a lil while ago about the issue, not much of a help though, I'm not sure why but the PH is chaotic, I prob flushed with 9gal and it's still not stabilizing. I know she's wet ( hopefully not too bad since I used h202) but I'm almost inclined to give her one more feeding at 9.5 with a lil nutes since I'm sure a lot if not most washed out. Just hate to see her like this. I don't have any kind of root stim or anything, no $ right now since I lost my job, know of any inexpensive or readily available ways to do the same thing? Oh, also I did add perlite with the soil initially, bout 20%.... And I don't have a bubbler either, I have a half ass set up apparently, but cost is a huge factor right now. Well thanks again



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[FreeLivin]

OK, Day 70 I chopped the CC, I had started flushing her 3 weeks ago based on the seed banks recommendations prior to me getting the loupe to see trichs, they weren't ready, no ambers, but instead of giving her nutes and then flushing again I decided to chop her, she was already small and I'd taken a few stems already so there wasn't much. I am letting the WW go for another week since I'd started flushing her a week after the CC, again because I didn't have the loupe yet, she is still small but looks nice, no amber yet either, sucks my first grow ends up like this. Oh well, and finally for the NL, she is doing horrible still. I finally got some dolomite and put some on the soil and watered her with RO water with a mid 7 PH, guess I should have done it with the 6.5, I checked runoff and it was good at 6.3, woke up and it was 7.1 and few hours later it was 7.5, haven't checked since, but I was going to feed her with a a ph of 9.5 since another member is having similar issues and has almost successfully given that to achieve 6.5 runoff, so now I'm not sure what to do but wait a day and give her a watering at 6.5 and see if it corrects itself. Well here are a few pics of the CC before I chopped her and one with the trimmed buds, looks like such a small amount... Main cola is pretty big but no decent pic of it yet.






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[FreeLivin]

Why is it I don't have permission to view my own pics? It tells me that on more than 50% of the pics I've posted.