Fast finishing photoperiods

^yeah that's what I thought too.
never looked into the fast flowering much, but from the little blurbs I read about 'fast flowering f1', I assumed it was just heterozygous autoflower.

I've never bred with autoflowers myself (yet), but from what I read about it, it does work as a recessive gene considering complete autoflowering, but it's not completely without effect with just 1 autoflowergene. from what I heard, it takes a few weeks off the finishing date, and makes the plant more 'sensitive', as in once it's triggered it's harder to reverse as a normal photo, it reacts quicker to changes in daylight next to absolute nightlength, and is easier to trigger by stress like rootbound.

it's sometimes called semi-auto too(like the strain thaipassion for example), but semi-auto is also used for strains that are just very early without autogene, so it's a bit confusing. but it's a thing that's been wandering around forums, usually already very early strains crossed with autoflowers.

fast flowering seems like they used that effect in breeding, and created a new name for it, good/smart move imo.

my theory of the mechanics behind it(not proven, just what I think is likely based on what I read on forums about the autoflowergene) is that the autoflowergene is a defect somewhere in the signal-chain towards flowering, basicaly locking the switch to produce flowerhormone in a constant ' on-switch'. you would need a certain tresshold of flowerhormone(or some other thing in the chain towards it), and one auto-gene by itself is not enough to reach that tresshold. but give it just a little triggering from the other, normal gene, and it immediatly is above the tresshold.
my guess is also that auto's still carry a trigger, as in a certain amount of dark hours they would need to flower, but that never shows itself due to the autoflowergene surpressing/hiding it. but no proof at all for that, just a guess, if I ever have the time and resources I would like to test it(cross autos to photos and see when the desendants of autoflowers with the autoflowergene crossed out start flowering). if my guess is right, you would see differences in how early those fast flowering f1's start flowering depending on which autoflower you use as parent.
 
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Hello everybody!

I am sorry to read about these problems with Lemon Kush, SexBud and Easy Sativa. I will try to shed some lights and try to understand what's going on...
First things first, nobody here is trying to rip you or anybody else off. We've been on the market way too long for this kind of games :)

Let's start with the fact that these 3 strains are not autoflowering, but only photoperiodics. I'd like to stress this as much as possible, since I've seen quite some skepticism around...
Easy Sativa is an outdoor strain, and we always advise to grow it outdoor only. Like many outdoor(-only) strains, @babethPOWERS have you tried with 13/11 light schedule? That might do the trick...

As for the rest: @Waira has once again given a more than appropriate and comprehensive reply to the question. Hermaphroditism is a natural survival reaction when things are not going the right way... it is strain dependent (i.e. some strain have a natural tendency for this, and therefore they require more work and time to be stabilized) or it may be induced on purpose (a technique used in breeding before, but that's another story) or it may be unexpected and unwanted (such as in case of light, heat, nuts stress and so on...). As you can understand, there are tens of factors that contribute to this, light schedule is only one.

I'd like to ask you once again to share here (or in the private conversation) the grow details, so we can really understand more... So far, the only thing i could get is that some plants/strains started flowering under 24h light Btw, does the change from LED to CFL affect the grow as well? my question to the community here...
Last but not least, I'd like to point out that you're having problems with not one, but two different strains (i.e. completely different genetics). Here again, before blaming the breeder, the company, the rep, the grower, the customer, let's try to see what happened during the grow.

Mums and clones: it is possible to make mums from Lemon Kush and SexBud. On this forum specially, you can find a good and fresh example of this, please, have a look at it in our sub-thread. Other than that, i'd be more happy to share more on this via private message.

I hope this is helpful now. I'll try to give more comprehensive replies on the subjects of semi-auto, fast-flowering and the amount of ruderalis in our genetics later on...

Wish you all a good time! :)
 
Switching from LED to CFL is something I do to get my Moms taller. It works really well! Perhaps though this makes some fast finishing photo strains start to preflower like crazy.

It now seems that is all the sex bud did because it's been like a month and there's no flower growth.

I will definitely post pictures soon. Tonight is a major re-arrangement because I've decided to flower most of my seeds and clones I've grown from these guys. No more finger pointing, it's time for fun!

I did my research before I bought the seeds and trusted their genetics and have even heard of them on the street and bought them directly from their website. I regret having any doubts. I understand that many of my problems were likely my error.

1 of 8 of my new lemons (2 out of 9 that I've planted) started flowering on day 30

I grow in 70/30 coco/perlite
My LED tent has 2100 watts and is 48×48×80
My CFL tent has 1800 watts and is 24×48×60
I use the general hydroponics GO (organic) box at max recommendation unless I notice burn for all stages.
General hydroponics maxi grow once or every other week at minimum recommendation when I flush.
I recently moved to only maxi grow because I had springtails munching on my clones and cutting down the organics is starting to help. This is not what I used on my 2 lemons that auto'd unless during a flush.

Grower error and I gave my lemons nitrogen lockout. The other 7 seem to be mostly the shorter pheno they describe. 2 are very tall. They're leaving the LED mom tent and going into the CFL veg tent. My LED mom tent is going to become my flower tent. My CFL tent will become the infirmary for the lemons.

My bad on growing the easy sativa inside lol
 
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