EverythingsHazy's Breeding Thread

Are you using the jar in the pic as your generator? The top to mine is plastic as opposed to the metal top to the mason jars. Just wondering if the electrical current running through the cover as well as the silver electrodes might be the cause of the discoloration. Just a thought.
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No I will be next time, but no lid. The generator sits on top of the jar. Its a black rectangular box. almost like an old tv antenna box but upside down with antennae in water lol The silver accumulation might have a little to do with it. Even though it should be pure silver that is there anyway. Will be making a mason jar full soon and I am going to only run the generator until it hits 15-17ppm, cleaning the wires every half hour. Also getting a laser pointer.

Either way, if it works on the Purple Kush plant, since it isn't stressing it obviously (it's one of the healthiest looking plants I have, much better than its sibling that was killed off), then it is doing what cs is supposed to for breeding. Further info needed for drinking lol.

Are you using the jar in the pic as your generator? The top to mine is plastic as opposed to the metal top to the mason jars. Just wondering if the electrical current running through the cover as well as the silver electrodes might be the cause of the discoloration. Just a thought.
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No prob man! Welcome aboard! Feel free to chime in if you have any comments/questions/suggestions.



Actually, I didn't think of using an unbleached filter. Good idea. Gotta go pick up a pack that'll last next to forever lol.
The higher charge might cause more of the silver to clump up around the wires, , but it was clear maybe a tiny bit cloudy when it was freshly made and strained. I read that higher voltage doesn't cause particels to break off in bigger pieces, but I also didn't clean the wires so they got covered in like 1/3" diameter of gunk which was floating around a little bit too. Had I cleaned them every hour for the first two hours and then taken it out it would probably still havehit 15-17ppm. Also, the jar it was made in wasn't completely cleaned. It was washed, but it had some thin silver on the bottom and silver discoloration on the entire glass from the previous two batches that. That prob affectedit as well. Didn't have anything else to make it in at that point. Next time it is going to be made straight in a clean mason jar and then decanted/strained into another one for storage. Quart mason jars are slightly bigger than the current jar it was made in.

As for keeping the wires farther apart, can they be bent into right angles, because the wires fit into two little holes on the generator that cant be moved. It said to keep the wires an equal distance apart from each other the whole time but does thatonly count for the underwater parts? The book also said to submerge liek 80% at least or somethign like that. I did read online that higher voltage is ok as long as you have more surface area of silver underwater to conduct it, but personally, I have no idea how accurate that is lol.

No point throwing it away though because it isn't burning the plant at all, so if it ends up reversing it, then there was no negatives to the amber color. I have a bottle that I left for a while that only turned grey and then turned a dark amber color like very dark amber. Going to strain it again becaus eit had a bunch of black sivler particles on the bottom formthe wires, and then i may test it on a random plant sometime in the near future if i get a successful batch of fem seeds.. not going to use it on an important plant tho since it is the weirdest colored batch

you cant believe everything you read

ive seen articles done by professionally trained chemists that contradict each other , some saying higher voltage is good some saying it is bad

when reading/learning it is easy to understand that the higher voltage is in fact bad

you want less then 12 volts and 1 amp , preferably 6 volt 600 mA , ive done 1 pint to 1 gallon batches with a power supply matching those numbers

i credit your extreme color to the high voltage

and yes , of course you can bend/manipulate the wires to have them further apart once they enter the water

keeping the wires clean is very important , it greatly helps keep the particles small

dark coloring is mainly due to light degenerating the solution

always store it in the dark at room temp , and make it in a dimly lit room with lights off when not inspecting it or cleaning wires , i made some in my veg room once , it was a dark grey almost black , we are working with "silver" not grey and especially not dark grey

peace

p.s. go back to my c.s. tutorial thread and re-read the first few posts again , its all spelled out , following those instructions will get you great results , yes some of it i dont completely agree with and or have improved on , but doing exactly what cabron said will get you success every time
 
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I will try to make it with the wires a bit farther apart next time, but it isn't THAT dark amber anyway. I do have a batch that is very dark and I will test it on a less important plant in the future (hopefully I'll have a bunch of fems to experiment with soon, but this is the batch being used right now.

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The flash makes it look a lot darker than it is.
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Still looking forward to getting that laser pointer soon to test it with from now on.
 
Got a laser for $1 lol

Both pics in dark. First with flash, second without.
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its prolly due to being a pic , but i dont see sparkles , do you in real life ?

the beam should be so full of sparkles you start to lose the red colouring , well @ 40 ppm that is

im brewing some c.s. right now , if i can find my charger ill post some pics of it , if not ill just talk about it

peace
 
its prolly due to being a pic , but i dont see sparkles , do you in real life ?

the beam should be so full of sparkles you start to lose the red colouring , well @ 40 ppm that is

im brewing some c.s. right now , if i can find my charger ill post some pics of it , if not ill just talk about it

peace

Definitely see some sparkles in there in person. I'm gonna try to get some more distilled water to make a new batch with the wires 2" apart this time.

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its prolly due to being a pic , but i dont see sparkles , do you in real life ?

the beam should be so full of sparkles you start to lose the red colouring , well @ 40 ppm that is

im brewing some c.s. right now , if i can find my charger ill post some pics of it , if not ill just talk about it

peace

Definitely see some sparkles in there in person. I'm gonna try to get some more distilled water to make a new batch with the wires 2" apart this time.
 
so i just checked mine , ive got to update my thread with some valuable info

for the last year or so ive been using just an airline , no air stone , this batch im making now i used a stone

i was a bit worried something had gone wrong and it wasnt working well due to my silver wires not getting overly dirty and building up with gunk , i just shut it off and then turned off the lights , checked with a lazer pointer and BOOM full of sparkles , like done , can stop brewing and start useing it , and not once did any gunk build up on the wires or in the bottom of the jar , yes the wires changed colour and got a dirty look , but no gunk/sludge

peace
 
so i just checked mine , ive got to update my thread with some valuable info

for the last year or so ive been using just an airline , no air stone , this batch im making now i used a stone

i was a bit worried something had gone wrong and it wasnt working well due to my silver wires not getting overly dirty and building up with gunk , i just shut it off and then turned off the lights , checked with a lazer pointer and BOOM full of sparkles , like done , can stop brewing and start useing it , and not once did any gunk build up on the wires or in the bottom of the jar , yes the wires changed colour and got a dirty look , but no gunk/sludge

peace

Very cool. Now that I have a laser I am going to check the stuff with it in the dark while it is still clear at 30 minutes and then again every 30 cleaning the wires if necessary. I have a feeling it will hit 15ppm and have a thick beam while clear in about an hour to an hour and a half. After that, without an airstone or air hose, it seems like the particles begin to conglomerate. The ppm on the tds meter (for what that's worth) didn't ever go past 19ppm but at that point it had made the glass very cloudy and full of silver particles that needed straining. The resulting product turned very dark amber and that is what I mentioned might try depending on how the current stuff works.


The purple Kush plant is still making pistils which is a bit concerning. It is also getting a little purplish brownish hugh on the main cola tip now. I can always up the amount of times it is sprayed daily because once the water evaporates or is absorbed, the dose of cs seems like it can just be reapplied unless the plant responds better to strong spikes in cs levels. But I doubt that because of the way cs works continuously. So at 15ppm it might be better to spray >3x daily if you are getting success with 40ppm 2x a day.


Just rechecked mine in a very dark room and it has some sparkles in it but you see the beam clearly the entire way though whereas you don't at all with regular water. Im curious though if the sparkles are bigger particles, because the otherlight is just much smaller sparkles we cant pick up individually.
 
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These are from a branch cut from the reversed AKR. Looks liek it still has some hairs and for some reason the leaves in the bud sites andsome of the flowers are drying up.
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No dust comes out these when rubbed or flicked/shaken over glass.

Still have a few male flowers on some smaller bud-sites, and the main "cola" of tiny male flowers. they are very small tho. I began spraying it again with homemade cs to help it finish the process.


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I set up a jar with the wires a bit father apart and after an hour it still tested at 0-1 ppm. The wires were a little bit colored, but nowhere near the normal amount. I think the outlet may be at fault. We'll see because I moved the generator to another one. Also there was no laser beam at all yet. Will report back within a few hours.
 
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