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@archie gemmill No worries brother,Just was busy n was looking around.LOL nadda problem. Yeah man,organics is the shit man. plain and simple.I have love stopped talking about the love n so on because they seem to want recognition for growing big plants with the most tech stuf of combined way of Bottled and soil feeds which really is a tug of war..Why would ya wanna do that ?pay say 300 USD to buy the stuff to haved your soil and plant be confused and bummed out thee entire time.LOLYoull have a harvest noo doubt. but it will lack and like @hecno said. Its about status,money and no love and pride behind your work. where the fun in that ya greedy bastards.LOL But once you grow a full on the first or second time? you are soo fkn sold it aint even funny broseph. And then ya give some flowers to pals and like Hec said. your pals are like WHOOAAA!...sniff....PUfffff....WOW! whats this?Your grow this?! LOl everytime without fail. even peopel I smoke with often and know Im a grower are still impressed after new flowers n stuff come around.LOL Could not recommend it more. WELL worth the effort of buying noew stuff and learning while you grow once or twice.by then your ready.Look at Hec?! the organic brother did exactly that and has been climbing a badass ladder ever since. Hec has my respect and friendship,he has been growing solid and beautifully many type of flower and composting his own food for his soils and learning his Flora and fauna.Unique region Ozzie land is and hes Come through the other side with a T shirt,badass weed and a hell of a lot of knowledge that feels AMAZING!! and you can do it too for simple bagged tailored systems of start literally from zero.which will take some serious time but even MORE rewarding.I did that a few times until my MS got worse.but its beautiful man,promise.