Extraction Does it need to be an alcohol tincture to work

[McDee]

What about making hard candies? Haven't made any yet, but looks like a few decent recipes around. Seems there should be quite a bit of absorption with a jolly rancher type.

Would that be sublingual or edible? Gotta be honest I just want something fast lol. I dont want to burn myself again I know that. They may be a option tho, I will put that on the list.

 

[McDee]

in a traditional tincture the alcohol is the extraction method and the carrier.
last time i made a tincture i had allready extracted,so the decarbed 73u went straight in the vodka no messing about.
as you have roisen its allready been extracted,just needs a carrier that can disolve the roisin ?
good luck n keep er lit (but not around flamable shit)


edit ......decarbed rosin

Yes! I need a carrier that will not burn. I heard honey but not sure may need to be eaten. I may just do with a lower alcohol. I can drink it but when I put the 151 everclear under tongue WOW! It was like acid and I don't mean lsd lol.

 

[bad dragon bzzz]

hehe if ya held it under tongue subligualy,sucked or just swallowed an edible
am i right in thinking 1ml tincture would be stronger than candy/cupcake/drink ?

 

[bad dragon bzzz]

i found a fresh tincture didnt sting as much as an older tincture 3 months.when i sat and thought about it i subligualed the the straight vodka and there was no sting at all thats why i thought it the tiny undisolved particals that irritated me.

 

[Archaic]

Unfortunately if you want sublingual your going to be disappointed by anything besides alcohol. Alcohol is readily absorbed through mucus membranes (hence idiots that take alcohol rectally to get drunk without anything on their breath).

Alcohol is a very good organic solvent and it easily passes through mucus membranes. You're just not going to get anything that effective with a sugar, oil, or water based vector. Basically you'll just be getting a concentrated edible liquid.

 

[VitaMan]

VG, reclaim my alcohol or most of it. I can add honey/VG Anyone have experience with this?

I have made tincture so many ways....

First, VG is a poor carrier, and the tincture is weaker so you need more. I find it is not that quick, but I brave the alcohol sting, myself.

Of all the oils, MCT oil is the best transporter that I know of.

Your body wants to absorb and burn it as fuel immediately, so it gets into the blood fairly quick. (booze is a bit quicker).
MCT is a good carrier so you can make it pretty strong, just keep the viscosity really thin.

I found that boiling the alcohol extract down to a tar-like consistency works pretty good. Budder or shatter takes a bit longer to dissolve

Also, dissolving the goop into smaller batches of warm oil at a time and then finally combining them is quicker and easier than chasing a blob around a larger volume of oil. In the end you stir less.

Sometimes I like to make both and mix them 50-50. I give the dropper bottle a little shake and take it sublingual. Still burns tho.
I scored some bargain live-resin, I might try blending some in for the terps.

 

[McDee]

Unfortunately if you want sublingual your going to be disappointed by anything besides alcohol. Alcohol is readily absorbed through mucus membranes (hence idiots that take alcohol rectally to get drunk without anything on their breath).

Alcohol is a very good organic solvent and it easily passes through mucus membranes. You're just not going to get anything that effective with a sugar, oil, or water based vector. Basically you'll just be getting a concentrated edible liquid.

Ok, that's what I was afraid of... thanks. Now next question is how can I lessen the burn. I dont mind pain, paindont hurt lol. I just dont want under my tongue to react like I dropped pizza cheese straight out of the oven on it. I can laugh about it now but sucked. Is reducing alcohol and adding honey an option? Have you ever bought tinctures from a dispensary? I dont mind if it's like an edible, I just want it to take effect faster like 15 mins or so. Can I achieve this with a lower proof? I have heard people say 3-5 drops and your good, that's what I want or would like is that possible? Tinctures I haven't messed with much yet so. I have read about mixing with water and rinsing in mouth would you absorb it that way? Any of these you have answers for let me hear them. I may just not get around the 2hr wait lol. I can never resist the rig while waiting for an edible to kick in hahaha.

 

[McDee]

I have made tincture so many ways....

First, VG is a poor carrier, and the tincture is weaker so you need more. I find it is not that quick, but I brave the alcohol sting, myself.

Of all the oils, MCT oil is the best transporter that I know of.

Your body wants to absorb and burn it as fuel immediately, so it gets into the blood fairly quick. (booze is a bit quicker).
MCT is a good carrier so you can make it pretty strong, just keep the viscosity really thin.

I found that boiling the alcohol extract down to a tar-like consistency works pretty good. Budder or shatter takes a bit longer to dissolve

Also, dissolving the goop into smaller batches of warm oil at a time and then finally combining them is quicker and easier than chasing a blob around a larger volume of oil. In the end you stir less.

Sometimes I like to make both and mix them 50-50. I give the dropper bottle a little shake and take it sublingual. Still burns tho.
I scored some bargain live-resin, I might try blending some in for the terps.

VitaMan good stuff havent seen ya recently hope all is good. I like Crown Royal to sip on if I'm gonna drink. I know with it being lower proof it's not as good as the everclear, but would that be an option to use. I think I could use sublingual without burn. Plus it's good, I like to drink its just real bad for you so I just dont since I now have all the bud I could have every dreamed of lol.

 

[VitaMan]

Hey, Mcdee!

I envy your lab equipment.

If you have decarbed rosin, why not dissolve a small amount in MCT, just to give it a try? The only investment other than the oil is a few minutes of stirring.

I have never worked with rosin, so I have no clue how long it would take. It would help if it is still warm from your lift.

 

[McDee]

Hey, Mcdee!

I envy your lab equipment.

If you have decarbed rosin, why not dissolve a small amount in MCT, just to give it a try? The only investment other than the oil is a few minutes of stirring.

I have never worked with rosin, so I have no clue how long it would take. It would help if it is still warm from your lift.

Thanks bud, but I'm envious of your knowledge! Where would one get some MTC and is it expensive? I stopped using oils because of all the saturated fats. I used to eat real bad so now I'm strick on my consumption of it. That's why I stopped using coconut oil. I make gummies because I can just use decarbed rosin no fat. Any edible I can mix rosin into will work. Hot gummy mix is a prime candidate. It melts nice in the lift into oil, VG it doesn't want to stay blended with but in a mixer like mbm it may???