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lol but these chinese companies tell u all of that info ...
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Without a doubt, you are going to need more light if you want to grow all 6 plants. The UFO you have is probably only drawing 50 or 60 actual watts, about enough for 1 plant. For a tent that size I would suggest a minimum of 240 watts of 3 watt LEDs. I would shoot for 50-60 watts of 3 watt LEDs per square foot of tent space.
Also, Biobizz All Mix has shown the be a bit hot for some auto seedlings. Best to start in their Lite Mix and move to All Mix once they are established.
Also, Biobizz All Mix has shown the be a bit hot for some auto seedlings. Best to start in their Lite Mix and move to All Mix once they are established.
going into riots first will buy you a small buffer if thats enough i dont know
china vs brand
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jszZ2GuRmR8&feature=channel&list=UL
[video=youtube;jszZ2GuRmR8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jszZ2GuRmR8&feature=channel&list=UL[/video]
china vs brand
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jszZ2GuRmR8&feature=channel&list=UL
[video=youtube;jszZ2GuRmR8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jszZ2GuRmR8&feature=channel&list=UL[/video]
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oh yeah my heads spinning 
finally found the company that sold me the light originally, not easy with no receipt and and shit for brains! they are basically slagging off there own product and say how good there new one is not just chips but quality of workmanship etc... compered to the old ones witch when they sold it to me they assured me it was better than the generic stuff from china,(not got a problem with quality Chinese products any guitar players had pleasure of the squire classic vibes strat's n tele's ?) because they used higher quality components and had better quality control etc... i paid a fekking premium for it about 30% (sucks teeth) so we won't be using them again. sighs I live n learn.
I'm sure it had a 3 year warranty quite tempted to put that "poor workmanship" to the test, if you know what i mean. (wish i had the heart)
i really don't want to give up on led's I've had OK results with it not amazing but just about enough for me, from 3-4 plants could keep me in smoke if i don't go crazy and do continues grows but not been in a position to for a while, shared housing sucks, and I'm convinced the end product has more kick to it, no proof just a hunch. and not having to play the temp game is bliss. i will basically sleep near this grow and for some reason don't mind there hum of the fans, i have the ruck on a speed controller so it's basically silent, well quieter than the UFO anyhow. but the hum from hps/mh balests drives me mad and find I'm really sensitive to the discharge that comes from the wire electromagnetic is it ?
in my head i've always planned to do a scrog with it, and to be fair the top few inches of buds have been fat, so watch this space things may change. bb could get banished to outside and some extreme auto lst'ing may commence i know autos don't like it but i don't care right now gone from a proper buzz to absolute despair, did not get me seeds to either and i ordered on Monday normly they be here now
I'm off to have a sulk n hopefully a sleep, only had 3hrs in the last 72hrs! need zopiclone:cry:
dam i was happy with my toy grow 50-75g's dry from 3-4 plants why did i join this forum ?????????????? oh yeah i wanted to grow properly again and have a green Christmas
finally found the company that sold me the light originally, not easy with no receipt and and shit for brains! they are basically slagging off there own product and say how good there new one is not just chips but quality of workmanship etc... compered to the old ones witch when they sold it to me they assured me it was better than the generic stuff from china,(not got a problem with quality Chinese products any guitar players had pleasure of the squire classic vibes strat's n tele's ?) because they used higher quality components and had better quality control etc... i paid a fekking premium for it about 30% (sucks teeth) so we won't be using them again. sighs I live n learn.
I'm sure it had a 3 year warranty quite tempted to put that "poor workmanship" to the test, if you know what i mean. (wish i had the heart)
i really don't want to give up on led's I've had OK results with it not amazing but just about enough for me, from 3-4 plants could keep me in smoke if i don't go crazy and do continues grows but not been in a position to for a while, shared housing sucks, and I'm convinced the end product has more kick to it, no proof just a hunch. and not having to play the temp game is bliss. i will basically sleep near this grow and for some reason don't mind there hum of the fans, i have the ruck on a speed controller so it's basically silent, well quieter than the UFO anyhow. but the hum from hps/mh balests drives me mad and find I'm really sensitive to the discharge that comes from the wire electromagnetic is it ?
in my head i've always planned to do a scrog with it, and to be fair the top few inches of buds have been fat, so watch this space things may change. bb could get banished to outside and some extreme auto lst'ing may commence i know autos don't like it but i don't care right now gone from a proper buzz to absolute despair, did not get me seeds to either and i ordered on Monday normly they be here now
I'm off to have a sulk n hopefully a sleep, only had 3hrs in the last 72hrs! need zopiclone:cry:
dam i was happy with my toy grow 50-75g's dry from 3-4 plants why did i join this forum ?????????????? oh yeah i wanted to grow properly again and have a green Christmas
Lol im on a scrog now with photos 
ive got a digi ballast so its silent
also ballast are not supposed to hum in hps but the poor quality ones do like my old ones it was like an aircraft ready to take off lol
You dont have to give up on leds just i like max potentional for my area and 50-70w hps ber sq ft its where is at you might get away with 2/3 that in led but would need about 25-50% more than that with cfl
your room is about 4sqft so 250w hps or 150-190w in a quality led panel or over 350w in cfl
Id also like to see 1 betty grown out proper as i like jd's stuff its always been solid for me loved my chronic ryders
75g is not to be sniffed id be happy with that under 90w leds
ive got a digi ballast so its silent
also ballast are not supposed to hum in hps but the poor quality ones do like my old ones it was like an aircraft ready to take off lol
You dont have to give up on leds just i like max potentional for my area and 50-70w hps ber sq ft its where is at you might get away with 2/3 that in led but would need about 25-50% more than that with cfl
your room is about 4sqft so 250w hps or 150-190w in a quality led panel or over 350w in cfl
Id also like to see 1 betty grown out proper as i like jd's stuff its always been solid for me loved my chronic ryders
75g is not to be sniffed id be happy with that under 90w leds
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luddite.darktone
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We Have life, all 3 Betty's popped within about 6 hours of each other 1 riot 1st, then soil, then last riot. So not sure the cubes are worth it but we will see. all in 1ltr air pots now,l watered in with 1/4 strength rhizotonic ph'd to 6-7 (using liquid test kit) for the 2 in cubes, as stated the before the 1 planted in soil had full strength.
got the starryder's yesterday and they all went in to the riot cubes, in a propagator with no soak and a light mist of rhizotonic
both fan are now on low, and light at 18".
will post some pic's in a few days when there is something worth looking at.
on a side note the air-pots look like a bit of bitch to water, as the run off come from all angle not just the bottom, sure it will get easier as i get to know them.
p.s if you don't see me for a few days it's cos I'm having sleep problems and don't want to keep rambling incoherent babble!
got the starryder's yesterday and they all went in to the riot cubes, in a propagator with no soak and a light mist of rhizotonic
both fan are now on low, and light at 18".
will post some pic's in a few days when there is something worth looking at.
on a side note the air-pots look like a bit of bitch to water, as the run off come from all angle not just the bottom, sure it will get easier as i get to know them.
p.s if you don't see me for a few days it's cos I'm having sleep problems and don't want to keep rambling incoherent babble!
hope you get some sleep and in the mean time that your ladies do some good growing!!!
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luddite.darktone
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Thanks for the support bro(assume your a bro as not so many of the fairer sex grow) had a night of real sleep with no benzo's or sleepers and feel bloody amazing:booya: hope it lasts
Has anyone actually grown the Betty boo? y i ask is, just noticed the info on the back of the packet is different to the website's
packet: height 50-70cm 56 days from germ to harvest
seed sites: height 20-30cm and 60 days
got them direct from joint doc
Has anyone actually grown the Betty boo? y i ask is, just noticed the info on the back of the packet is different to the website's
packet: height 50-70cm 56 days from germ to harvest
seed sites: height 20-30cm and 60 days
got them direct from joint doc
I like JD's stuff but i think these description are never right as condtions change the plant massive . pot size hydro hps etc.. but if its AKxlr2 so should be good but the easy ryder is supposed to be the bigger version of the plant
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I know, but but was hoping the bettys would be true midgets otherwise i'm gona be screwed, space wise it's already a tight fit, not looking for a big yield off them, but something to smoke when times are tuff and i start eying up an immature garden with bad intent
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