Current Live Stoners Gossip June/July/August 2017

[stepside]

thats it. It still would produce something but with changing the light cycle it produces more.

Once "you" have to do anything but water,...it's not auto

 

[L0wbob2017]

Well they could have called it hyper or mega or brutal, the name is irrelevant.
To see a real difference we need someone to grow it side by side and make a journal.

If we can see there that the moment of of switching to flower is delayed by an unusual time compared to "normal" auto's, then it should be considered as a different type of autoflowering. ( better get a mass study with 1k+ plants to see how often this happens )
If the delay of switching really increases potency, then it needs to be checked, but again if it has an unusual high potency it also needs to checked if this is a side-effect of that delayed switch or something else.
Even when it has a different reason why its potency is higher, then it doesnt make it a normal auto because of that delayed switch.



My definition says that an autoflower CAN handle 18+ hours for flower but doesnt have to. You can grow automatics also with swtiching to 12/12 for flower. The yield just wont be that good.
My definition says nothing about the produced yiled. If you got an autostrain that produces more yield with a 18/6 cycle and a different strain that produces more yield with a 12/12 cycle then both are automatics.
Thats not an opposite, thats just a case where the auto-strain is grown with a 12/12 cycle for the flower period and resulted in producing more yield when grown with a 12/12 cycle instead of 18/6.

For me it looks like this:
You got photo's. These once got devided into sativa and indica because they are different even tho both switch to flower with a 12/12 cycle.
You got auto's. Now these are going to get devided into normal, super and semi autoflowering because they all switch on their own into flower but are different to each other.



You dont need to push a semi-auto into flowering by changing the light cycle, it is just recommended to change the cycle once the plant has switched to flowering because that strain produces more yield with 12/12 than with 18/6.

Just because some normal autoflowering plants didnt switch to flower by theirselfes doesnt mean that this is because of beeing an unknown or unlabeled "semi-auto". It can have many reasons which sometimes cant be detected.

What about the energy costs? I could run a seed to harvest run with a semi-auto that takes all it needs for veg and switches on its own to flower and then produce as much yield as a normal auto with only 66% of the energy costs.

It is like a using clones from a motherplant that get straight into the flower room, but just with seeds, without the need of an extra room ( space, light, costs ) for the mother and with almost the same time needed and more yield. ( sure u dont got the same strain all over your growspace, but u can grow many different strains at once without the need of having a motherplant for that strain )

by the way, no agressive attitude behind this just to be sure...

@Son of Hobbes did u read this?

 

[Son of Hobbes]

Would you guys have any interest if I were to see if we can get all the breeders on AFN, the indie's and the commercial breeders, together for a group topic discussion about it? The state of the seed industry in general. The state of the breeding industry, marketing stuff, etc. I would think there'd be some hot topics to talk about it, especially in light of the Josie Wales thing and Gorilla Glue [HASHTAG]#4[/HASHTAG].

Would you guys be game for something like that? Then we'd have industry guys giving us professional opinions on top of our back-and-forth discussions.

 

[L0wbob2017]

Once "you" have to do anything but water,...it's not auto

So makes me using a supersoil where i just have to water any strain an auto?

 

[Roasty McToasty]

High everyone!

 

[Son of Hobbes]

I didn't know we were talking specific strains.. thought this was about auto,semi auto and super auto..
Is this kind of like a great aunt.. to me this is weird too.. just cuz she's my mother's aunt doesn't make her great.. if she's giving good presents on Christmas now that would make her great

Exactly. Just like how you're "Stepside," but if you'd EVER buy me something once in awhile, you could be... SUPER STEPSIDE! Or like the ladies call him "Sugar Step!"

 

[stepside]

So makes me using a supersoil where i just have to water any strain i planted an auto?

Not if you have to adjust a timer.

 

[rayuki]

https://www.autoflower.org/posts/1551734/
View attachment 794633 two weeks old today guys I keep old 60-70s Rock low and slow in the background of my room for Her and from the looks of things this Skunk is loving it's environment!!!! Also Good morning to All.

Love it man i thought i was the only one that did that lol. I leave Spotify on in the background for my girls, mostly old classic rock and they seem to love it as much as my dog does heh

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[Son of Hobbes]

So should autopots actually be called semi autopots because you need to hand water in the beginning?

We've been trying to get autopots on here as a vendor for awhile, maybe they will respond if I pitch them their next great product idea! The Semi-Auto Pot! "You couuuuuuld connect the reservoir... or you could not." lmaooooooo. Oh fuck I'm pissing myself laughing!

I like you guys, we have a good time here!

 

[L0wbob2017]

Not if you have to adjust a timer.

so just to get that right

If i am using an autoflowering strain but have to add fertilizer by myself it is not an auto anymore
but if i am using a supersoil and i am not using a timer for watering it is an auto again.

What if i am using autopots, connected to the waterhose and a self refilling system so the tank stays full, combined with supersoil so i dont have to fertilize by myself and use a photoperiod seed. Is this considered as auto?

also since i need to harvest myself and even smoke it myself is it then again a non auto?