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@F.N. some people are just too close-minded, It don't matter what you say or even prove to them. I'm not sure why people would talk so bad about them, but not actually try grow them out to see for themselves, how well they are.
 
WOW maybe one per cent grow autos leds suck we are flat earthers they are cute so behind the times when it comes to autos. We were stealing metal halide high bay lights out of industrial plants re wiring them and growing weed in 1990 I have done everything with hps and metal halide they do not compare to a COB never will simple as that. there you go.
 
People take a long time to change. The reality is old school mentalities usually don't go away till the people with that mentality die off and are replaced with a newer generation with different ideas. Pretty much how legalization started happening most people born in the fifties and prior did not change their thinking on pot. They died and couldn't vote against it. Same with old photo growers.
 
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